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** Released eight weeks ago
 
** Released eight weeks ago
 
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM20a1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008101818&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0a1 crashes] — 123 so far, were adding ≈30/week, now 30 over past 3 weeks; low?)
 
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM20a1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008101818&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0a1 crashes] — 123 so far, were adding ≈30/week, now 30 over past 3 weeks; low?)
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*** #1 (28) is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|0xfffeff20}} (printing, youtube, 7 are {{bug|458961}} - Core 10.4 topcrash; 4 of those are triggered by Tabsposé)
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*** #1 <!--(28)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|0xfffeff20}} (printing, youtube, 7 are {{bug|458961}} - Core 10.4 topcrash; 4 of those are triggered by Tabsposé)
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*** #2 (19) is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|Cocoa.12.0.0}} (startup crash; {{TB|50869706}} is sample)
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*** #2 <!--(19)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|Cocoa.12.0.0}} (startup crash; {{TB|50869706}} is sample)
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*** #3 (12) is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}}
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*** #3 <!--(12)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}}
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*** #4 (9) is Flash
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*** #4 <!--(9)--> is Flash
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*** #5 (8) is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}} (5 are probably {{bug|458961}})
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*** #5 <!--(8)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}} (5 are probably {{bug|458961}})
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*** #6 (8) Core crash-on-quit
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*** #6 <!--(8)--> Core crash-on-quit ({{bug|349463}})
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*** #7 (7) is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|libSystem.B.dylib.111.0.0}} (5 are {{bug|458961}} on 10.5.0b5)
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*** #7 <!--(7)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|libSystem.B.dylib.111.0.0}} (5 are {{bug|458961}} on 10.5.0b5)
 
*** Also, 10 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|50702043}}, {{TB|50686087}}, {{TB|50604116}}, {{TB|51231297}}, {{TB|51364670}}, {{TB|51364617}},{{TB|51603710}} (new), {{TB|51734972}} (new), {{TB|51492114}} (new), {{TB|51491925}} (new))
 
*** Also, 10 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|50702043}}, {{TB|50686087}}, {{TB|50604116}}, {{TB|51231297}}, {{TB|51364670}}, {{TB|51364617}},{{TB|51603710}} (new), {{TB|51734972}} (new), {{TB|51492114}} (new), {{TB|51491925}} (new))
 
*** Crashes in the appshell - {{TB|51536447}}, {{TB|51620463}}
 
*** Crashes in the appshell - {{TB|51536447}}, {{TB|51620463}}
 
* Camino 1.6.6
 
* Camino 1.6.6
 
** Released yesterday
 
** Released yesterday
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM166/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121219&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.6 crashes] <!-- — 82; increased ~80/wk, now none; is Talkback broken?)
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM166/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121219&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.6 crashes] — 2)
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*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, but Flash looks like #1, {{TBsig|16|2008111212|libSystem.B}} (Real, Silverlight) #2, random hex #3 -->)
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<!-- *** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, but Flash looks like #1, {{TBsig|16|2008111212|libSystem.B}} (Real, Silverlight) #2, random hex #3 -->
 
<!--*** #1 is Flash
 
<!--*** #1 is Flash
 
*** #2/5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libSystem.B.dylib&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008080311&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libSystem.B.dylib] - presumably a large degree are 1passwd in addition to plug-ins, although details remain illusive; bit of a spike this week
 
*** #2/5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libSystem.B.dylib&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008080311&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libSystem.B.dylib] - presumably a large degree are 1passwd in addition to plug-ins, although details remain illusive; bit of a spike this week
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*** #6 is libObjC.A.dylib - four 1passwd crashes and mostly useless stacks elsewhere
 
*** #6 is libObjC.A.dylib - four 1passwd crashes and mostly useless stacks elsewhere
 
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*** No topcrash reports yet, but aside from the usual suspects, lots of reports of crashing on startup (1passwd, initMozillaPrefs, refreshStyleSheet, -[MainController checkForProblemAddOns]() ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=48463338 TB48463338x]/[http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=48528066 TB48528066x]), -[SiteIconCache readCacheFile]() {{bug|448554}})
 
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<!--**** RealPlayer - {{bug|441736}} (bug also some Flash and Silverlight)
 
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**** random bits of Camino code: 47958724 initMozillaPrefs, 48061310 refreshStyleSheet, 47710819
 
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**** A number of reports mention installing or upgrading 1passwd
 
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**** Some reports mention startup (initMozillaPrefs, refreshStyleSheet among others)-->
 
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<!--*** #4 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/talkback/fastfind.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libobjc]-->
 
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<!--**** 46765023 -[KeychainService init]() on startup, 46195237; are these just corrupt keychains?  But see also 46195236 (CoreFoundation+1passwd from same user)
 
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**** 46228188 should-have-been-fixed Privacy crash on 10.3.9 (one only)-->
 
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<!--*** #5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/talkback/fastfind.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=Camino&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid  Camino]
 
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**** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=48319457 TB48319457x] +[NSWorkspace(CaminoDefaultBrowserAdditions) osVersionString]() - handful of these
 
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--><!--*** #5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/talkback/fastfind.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=CoreFoundation&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid  CoreFoundation]
 
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**** 48001978 -[SiteIconCache readCacheFile]() at startup; this is fairly common
 
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**** Lots of crashes that contain the old tell-tale 1passwd signature
 
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**** Dozen or so CamiTools -->
 
 
** Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
 
** Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
 
** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
 
** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)

Latest revision as of 21:14, 16 December 2008

Wed 17 Dec 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

  • Meeting schedule
    • Are we meeting the rest of the month (Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve)?
  • Camino 2.0a1
  • Camino 1.6.6
    • Released yesterday
    • Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.6 crashes — 2)
    • Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
    • Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
    • Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
  • Camino 1.6.7
    • Officially Gecko is done, but more releases are possible
    • We didn't declare 1.6.6 EOL (no stable release yet)
    • One major bug in search plugins on 10.3 - Bug 469236
  • Camino 2.0
    • Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
      • Retriaging 2.0 list; smorgan and ardissone alternate weeks
      • Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b2 and add l10n to the whiteboard
      • Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - Bug 458205
    • Anti-phishing - can't get permission :(
    • Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones
    • Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken
    • Tabsposé - need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
    • Tab dragging - scroll dragging?
    • Fullscreen -
    • Icon work for 2.0 - philippe working on ideas for zoom icons (need decision here - Bug 450542); Sam promised updates months ago
    • breakpad - smorgan writing the reporter client
    • Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings)
    • Flashblock whitelist - Landed; thanks batwood!
    • Growl - waiting on reviews of blocking bugs?
    • What's left for 2.0b1 (blocking a build)?
      • Nasty UE bugs (minus them?)
      • Relnotes
    • Build end-of-week, release Tues?
  • Tinderboxen
    • boxset - currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
      • had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
    • What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
    • cb-x1 still reporting with truncated hostname; also, starting to die again Bug 458217
    • cb-minimaya running "1.6-M1.8" Ts (65 min dep)
    • cb-minibinus running "2.0-M1.9" Ts (45 min dep)
    • PPC minis need weekly reboots to keep running
    • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
  • Dev docs
    • CBSamplePane: can now build branch-compatible pane using trunk files; cl needs to address review comments
    • Development:Reviewing split code style, patch preparation, etc. into Development:Coding
    • need mento to verify the scp commands for staging
  • Weekly Bugs and Queues update
    • r queue still high

Specific bugs that need action

2.0b1pre

  • See 2.0b1? list
  • Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with

1.6.5

Other (if there's time)

  • cl's buglist
    • Bug 175748 - Need mechanism for creating new blank bookmarks
    • Bug 318931 - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on Bug 438256?)
    • Bug 363664 - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"
  • xpfe cleanup
    • see older Agendas if you're interested

Queries

Camino 2.0b1

Camino 2.0b2

  • l10n (7) [-2 since last week]

Camino 2.0

Queues

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