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* Camino 2.0b1 | * Camino 2.0b1 | ||
** Released three weeks ago | ** Released three weeks ago | ||
− | ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2ba1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121820&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b1 crashes] — | + | ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2ba1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121820&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b1 crashes] — 66 so far, adding ≈20/week) |
*** #1 <!--(9)--> is {{bug|471948}} (crash on quit in nsAppShell, seen a couple times in 2.0a1; first frame in various libs/fmwks) | *** #1 <!--(9)--> is {{bug|471948}} (crash on quit in nsAppShell, seen a couple times in 2.0a1; first frame in various libs/fmwks) | ||
− | *** #2 <!--( | + | *** #2 <!--(7)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}} |
− | *** #3 <!--( | + | *** #3 <!--(6)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|CHBrowserView%20contentViewer}} (1Password-related, 1P may have a fix; see {{bug|471681}}) |
− | *** #4 <!--( | + | *** #4 <!--(5)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|Cocoa.12.0.0}} |
− | *** # | + | *** #4 <!--(5)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}} |
− | *** # | + | *** #4 <!--(5)--> Core crash-on-quit ({{bug|349463}}) |
<!--*** #7 (3) is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|IOKit.275.0.0}} (all #1)--> | <!--*** #7 (3) is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|IOKit.275.0.0}} (all #1)--> | ||
− | *** Also, | + | *** Also, 4 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|51979682}}, {{TB|51970202}}, {{TB|52185198}}, {{TB|52293795}} [new]) |
− | ** {{bug|472196}} is another _NSAutoReleaseNoPool episode (10.4-only?), leaking MainController and Cocoa stuff | + | ** {{bug|472196}} is another _NSAutoReleaseNoPool episode (10.4-only?), leaking MainController and Cocoa stuff; where do we go from here? |
+ | ** {{bug|470159}} - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related? | ||
* Camino 1.6.6 | * Camino 1.6.6 | ||
** Released four weeks ago | ** Released four weeks ago | ||
** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary | ** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary | ||
− | ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM166/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121219&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.6 crashes] — 854 already; that's on par with 1.6.x series, though 1.6.5 was much less crashy) | + | ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM166/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121219&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.6 crashes] — <!--854-->??? already<!--; that's on par with 1.6.x series, though 1.6.5 was much less crashy-->) |
− | *** Hard to tell much without topcrashers | + | *** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 698<!-- |
*** #1 is Flash | *** #1 is Flash | ||
*** #2 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|libSystem.B}} | *** #2 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|libSystem.B}} | ||
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*** #5 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|CoreFoundation}} | *** #5 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|CoreFoundation}} | ||
*** #6 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|libObjC.A.dylib}} | *** #6 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|libObjC.A.dylib}} | ||
− | *** 100s of random hex (many are plugins) | + | *** 100s of random hex (many are plugins)--> |
** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented) | ** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented) | ||
** Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage. | ** Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage. | ||
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*** Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - {{bug|458205}} | *** Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - {{bug|458205}} | ||
** Anti-phishing - can't get permission :( | ** Anti-phishing - can't get permission :( | ||
− | ** Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones | + | ** Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - {{bug|470159}} |
** Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken | ** Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken | ||
** Tabsposé - need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?) | ** Tabsposé - need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?) | ||
− | ** Tab dragging - scroll dragging, 10.4 bugs? | + | ** Tab dragging - scroll dragging, 10.4 bugs, pref patch? |
− | ** Icon work for 2.0 - philippe | + | ** Icon work for 2.0 - philippe has another set of zoom icons for us ({{bug|450542}}); Sam promised updates months ago |
** breakpad - smorgan writing the reporter client | ** breakpad - smorgan writing the reporter client | ||
** Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see [[User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings]]) | ** Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see [[User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings]]) | ||
− | ** Growl - waiting on | + | ** Growl - passed smorgan's code review; waiting on hendy's behavioral review, then off to sr |
** Fullscreen - | ** Fullscreen - | ||
* Tinderboxen | * Tinderboxen |
Latest revision as of 22:33, 13 January 2009
Wed 14 Jan 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg
Contents
General Plans
- Camino 2.0b1
- Released three weeks ago
- Talkback broken here, too (all 2.0b1 crashes — 66 so far, adding ≈20/week)
- #1 is Bug 471948 (crash on quit in nsAppShell, seen a couple times in 2.0a1; first frame in various libs/fmwks)
- #2 is libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0
- #3 is CHBrowserView%20contentViewer (1Password-related, 1P may have a fix; see Bug 471681)
- #4 is Cocoa.12.0.0
- #4 is CoreFoundation.476.17.0
- #4 Core crash-on-quit (Bug 349463)
- Also, 4 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling (TB51979682x, TB51970202x, TB52185198x, TB52293795x [new])
- Bug 472196 is another _NSAutoReleaseNoPool episode (10.4-only?), leaking MainController and Cocoa stuff; where do we go from here?
- Bug 470159 - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related?
- Camino 1.6.6
- Released four weeks ago
- Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary
- Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.6 crashes — ??? already)
- Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 698
- Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
- Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
- Camino 1.6.7
- Officially Gecko is done, but more releases are possible
- We didn't declare 1.6.6 EOL (no stable release yet)
- One major bug in search plugins on 10.3 - Bug 469236
- 1Password-related crash affects 1.6.x and 2.0nx - Bug 471681
- Camino 2.0
- Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
- Need to retriage 2.0 list again soon
- Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b2 and add l10n to the whiteboard
- Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - Bug 458205
- Anti-phishing - can't get permission :(
- Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - Bug 470159
- Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken
- Tabsposé - need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
- Tab dragging - scroll dragging, 10.4 bugs, pref patch?
- Icon work for 2.0 - philippe has another set of zoom icons for us (Bug 450542); Sam promised updates months ago
- breakpad - smorgan writing the reporter client
- Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings)
- Growl - passed smorgan's code review; waiting on hendy's behavioral review, then off to sr
- Fullscreen -
- Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
- Tinderboxen
- boxset - currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
- had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
- What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
- cb-x1 still reporting with truncated hostname; also, starting to die again Bug 458217
- cb-minimaya running "1.6-M1.8" Ts (65 min dep)
- cb-minibinus running "2.0-M1.9" Ts (45 min dep)
- PPC minis need weekly reboots to keep running
- cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
- boxset - currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
- Dev docs
- CBSamplePane: awaiting reviews
- Development:Reviewing split code style, patch preparation, etc. into Development:Coding
- need mento to verify the
scp
commands for staging
- Weekly Bugs and Queues update
- Another slow week coming back from holidays; r queue still high
Specific bugs that need action
2.0b2pre
- See 2.0b2? list
- Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with
1.6.7
Other (if there's time)
- 10.5 Visual UX
- Bookmark bar - Bug 401340
- Tab bar
- Toolbar icons - Bug 384725
- We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
- App icon lines - Bug 402967
- Folders (UNCO) - Bug 436012
- cl's buglist
- Bug 175748 - Need mechanism for creating new blank bookmarks
- Bug 318931 - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on Bug 438256?)
- Bug 363664 - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"
- xpfe cleanup
- see older Agendas if you're interested
Queries
Camino 2.0b2
- Blocking ? (10) [unchanged]
- Blocking + (1) [unchanged]
- Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
- l10n (7) [unchanged]
Camino 2.0
- Bugs targeted at 2.0 (24) [unchanged]
- Blocking ? (10) [unchanged] (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation)
- Blocking + (1) [unchanged]
- Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
- Bugs without target (690) [+4 since last week]
- Bugs fixed since last meeting (2) [-3 since last week] (1 was ad-blocking, 1 was Google icon)
Queues
- Review (12) [+2 since last meeting] 3 untargeted
- Superreview (5) [-2 since last meeting]