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* Camino 2.0b1 | * Camino 2.0b1 | ||
** Released seven weeks ago | ** Released seven weeks ago | ||
| − | ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121820&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b1 crashes] — | + | ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121820&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b1 crashes] — 141 so far, adding ≈20-25/week) |
| − | *** #1 <!--( | + | *** #1 <!--(20)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}} |
*** #2 <!--(11)--> is {{bug|471948}} (crash on quit in nsAppShell, seen a couple times in 2.0a1; first frame in various libs/fmwks) | *** #2 <!--(11)--> is {{bug|471948}} (crash on quit in nsAppShell, seen a couple times in 2.0a1; first frame in various libs/fmwks) | ||
*** #3 <!--(10)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}} | *** #3 <!--(10)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}} | ||
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<!--*** #8 (5) is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|0xfffeff20}} | <!--*** #8 (5) is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|0xfffeff20}} | ||
*** #9 (4) is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|IOKit.275.0.0}} (all #1)--> | *** #9 (4) is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|IOKit.275.0.0}} (all #1)--> | ||
| − | *** Also, | + | *** Also, OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|51979682}}, {{TB|51970202}}, {{TB|52185198}}, {{TB|52293795}}, {{TB|52430931}}, {{TB|52529031}}, {{TB|52541896}}, {{TB|52761804}}, {{TB|52688239}} [AB] {{TB|52749126}} [AB], {{TB|52877218}} [new], {{TB|52856409}} [new] [RolloverImageButton]) |
*** {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}} <!--5--> (10.4, nsCSSRendering::PaintBackgroundWithSC) {{TB|52757128}} is example | *** {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}} <!--5--> (10.4, nsCSSRendering::PaintBackgroundWithSC) {{TB|52757128}} is example | ||
** {{bug|470159}} - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related? | ** {{bug|470159}} - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related? | ||
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** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary | ** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary | ||
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM166/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121219&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.6 crashes] — <!--854-->??? already<!--; that's on par with 1.6.x series, though 1.6.5 was much less crashy-->) | ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM166/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121219&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.6 crashes] — <!--854-->??? already<!--; that's on par with 1.6.x series, though 1.6.5 was much less crashy-->) | ||
| − | *** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at | + | *** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 1408<!-- |
*** #1 is Flash | *** #1 is Flash | ||
*** #2 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|libSystem.B}} | *** #2 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|libSystem.B}} | ||
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**** still waiting on verification that {{bug|472196}} (another _NSAutoReleaseNoPool episode, 10.4-only?) and {{bug|471948}} (appshell crash-on-quit) were fixed by Steven's patch last week | **** still waiting on verification that {{bug|472196}} (another _NSAutoReleaseNoPool episode, 10.4-only?) and {{bug|471948}} (appshell crash-on-quit) were fixed by Steven's patch last week | ||
**** {{bug|475102}} - Can't switch tabs with the keyboard on whitehouse.gov (regression from keyhell) | **** {{bug|475102}} - Can't switch tabs with the keyboard on whitehouse.gov (regression from keyhell) | ||
| − | ** Anti-phishing - | + | ** 2.0b1 is about to be 2 months old; we're not at the state on any remaining features where we can ship an extra beta, let alone the final beta |
| + | ** Anti-phishing - {{bug|476543}} Ts regression all over (10% on minus); [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=358299&hide_resolved=1 lots of follow-ups] | ||
** Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - {{bug|470159}} | ** Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - {{bug|470159}} | ||
** Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken | ** Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken | ||
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** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM--> | ** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM--> | ||
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update | * Weekly Bugs and Queues update | ||
| − | ** | + | ** Not much progress recently |
==Specific bugs that need action== | ==Specific bugs that need action== | ||
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===Camino 2.0=== | ===Camino 2.0=== | ||
| − | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.0] ( | + | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.0] (19) {{greyText|[-8 since last week]}} <!-- --> |
| − | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%3F Blocking ?] ( | + | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%3F Blocking ?] (14) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation) <!-- (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk --> |
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%2B Blocking +] (3) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) subtract FIXED here--> | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%2B Blocking +] (3) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) subtract FIXED here--> | ||
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- --> | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- --> | ||
Latest revision as of 22:26, 10 February 2009
Wed 11 Feb 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg
Contents
General Plans
- Camino 2.0b1
- Released seven weeks ago
- Talkback broken here, too (all 2.0b1 crashes — 141 so far, adding ≈20-25/week)
- #1 is libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0
- #2 is Bug 471948 (crash on quit in nsAppShell, seen a couple times in 2.0a1; first frame in various libs/fmwks)
- #3 is CoreFoundation.476.17.0
- #4 is nsObjectFrame::PaintPlugin [new]
- #5 is CHBrowserView%20contentViewer (1Password-related, 1P may have a fix, but we also pushed Bug 471681)
- #5 Core crash-on-quit (Bug 349463)
- #5 is Cocoa.12.0.0
- Also, OS frameworks with swizzling (TB51979682x, TB51970202x, TB52185198x, TB52293795x, TB52430931x, TB52529031x, TB52541896x, TB52761804x, TB52688239x [AB] TB52749126x [AB], TB52877218x [new], TB52856409x [new] [RolloverImageButton])
- nsObjCExceptionLogAbort (10.4, nsCSSRendering::PaintBackgroundWithSC) TB52757128x is example
- Bug 470159 - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related?
- Camino 1.6.6
- Released eight weeks ago
- Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary
- Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.6 crashes — ??? already)
- Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 1408
- Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
- Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
- Camino 1.6.7
- Officially Gecko is done, but more releases are possible
- We didn't declare 1.6.6 EOL (no stable release yet)
- OpenSearch parsing on 10.3 fix landed - Bug 469236
- 1Password-related crash affects 1.6.x and 2.0nx - Bug 471681
- Camino 2.0
- Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
- Need to retriage 2.0 list (and blocking? list) again soon; some last night
- Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b2 and add l10n to the whiteboard
- Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - Bug 458205
- Gecko fix for Flashblock Bug 474022 (checked in last week) fixed a number of older idle-no-Flash-resource-use-by-Flash bugs
- still waiting on verification that Bug 472196 (another _NSAutoReleaseNoPool episode, 10.4-only?) and Bug 471948 (appshell crash-on-quit) were fixed by Steven's patch last week
- Bug 475102 - Can't switch tabs with the keyboard on whitehouse.gov (regression from keyhell)
- 2.0b1 is about to be 2 months old; we're not at the state on any remaining features where we can ship an extra beta, let alone the final beta
- Anti-phishing - Bug 476543 Ts regression all over (10% on minus); lots of follow-ups
- Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - Bug 470159
- Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken
- Tabsposé - need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
- Tab dragging - scroll dragging, background, pref patch?
- Icon work for 2.0 - another new set of philippe’s zoom icons (Bug 450542); Sam promised updates months ago
- breakpad - smorgan writing the reporter client
- Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings)
- UTF-8 - hendy working on bookmarks manager, then autocompletion typing
- Flashblock CM -
- CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews (needs reviewer)
- Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
- Tinderboxen
- boxset - currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
- had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
- What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
- cb-x1 starting to die again Bug 458217
- boxset - currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
- Weekly Bugs and Queues update
- Not much progress recently
Specific bugs that need action
2.0b2pre
- See 2.0b2? list
- Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with
1.6.7
Other (if there's time)
- 10.5 Visual UX
- Bookmark bar - Bug 401340
- Tab bar
- Toolbar icons - Bug 384725
- We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
- App icon lines - Bug 402967
- Folders (UNCO) - Bug 436012
- cl's buglist
- Bug 175748 - Need mechanism for creating new blank bookmarks
- Bug 318931 - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on Bug 438256?)
- Bug 363664 - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"
- xpfe cleanup
- see older Agendas if you're interested
Queries
Camino 2.0b2
- Blocking ? (14) [unchanged]
- Blocking + (3) [unchanged]
- Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
- l10n (9) [unchanged]
Camino 2.0
- Bugs targeted at 2.0 (19) [-8 since last week]
- Blocking ? (14) [+1 since last week] (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation)
- Blocking + (3) [unchanged]
- Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
- Bugs without target (689) [+2 since last week] need a “CLOSEME”/UNCO cleanup
- Bugs fixed since last meeting (5) [-1 since last week] (2 were 2.0-targeted, 1 was website, 1 was branch-only)
Queues
- Review (10) [unchanged] 1 untargeted
- Superreview (0) [-2 since last meeting]
