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(all but crashes)
 
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* Camino 2.0a1
 
* Camino 2.0a1
 
** Released seven weeks ago
 
** Released seven weeks ago
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM20a1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008101818&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0a1 crashes] — 89 so far, were adding ≈30/week, then 3, now none; low?)
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM20a1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008101818&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0a1 crashes] <!-- — 89 so far, were adding ≈30/week, then 3, now none; low?)
 
*** #1 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|0xfffeff20}} (6 are {{bug|458961}} - Core 10.4 topcrash; 4 of those are triggered by Tabsposé)
 
*** #1 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|0xfffeff20}} (6 are {{bug|458961}} - Core 10.4 topcrash; 4 of those are triggered by Tabsposé)
 
*** #2 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|Cocoa.12.0.0}} (startup crash; {{TB|50869706}} is sample)
 
*** #2 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|Cocoa.12.0.0}} (startup crash; {{TB|50869706}} is sample)
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*** #4 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|libSystem.B.dylib.111.0.0}} (5 are {{bug|458961}} on 10.5.0b5)
 
*** #4 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|libSystem.B.dylib.111.0.0}} (5 are {{bug|458961}} on 10.5.0b5)
 
*** #5 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}} (2 are probably {{bug|458961}})
 
*** #5 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}} (2 are probably {{bug|458961}})
*** Also, 6 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|50702043}}, {{TB|50686087}}, {{TB|50604116}}, {{TB|51231297}}, {{TB|51364670}}, {{TB|51364617}})  
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*** Also, 6 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|50702043}}, {{TB|50686087}}, {{TB|50604116}}, {{TB|51231297}}, {{TB|51364670}}, {{TB|51364617}}) -->)
 
* Camino 1.6.5
 
* Camino 1.6.5
 
** Released three weeks ago
 
** Released three weeks ago
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM165/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008111212&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.5 crashes] — 82; increased ~80/wk, now none; is Talkback broken?)
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM165/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008111212&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.5 crashes] <!-- — 82; increased ~80/wk, now none; is Talkback broken?)
*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, but Flash looks like #1, {{TBsig|16|2008111212|libSystem.B}} (Real, Silverlight) #2, random hex #3
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*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, but Flash looks like #1, {{TBsig|16|2008111212|libSystem.B}} (Real, Silverlight) #2, random hex #3 -->)
 
<!--*** #1 is Flash
 
<!--*** #1 is Flash
 
*** #2/5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libSystem.B.dylib&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008080311&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libSystem.B.dylib] - presumably a large degree are 1passwd in addition to plug-ins, although details remain illusive; bit of a spike this week
 
*** #2/5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libSystem.B.dylib&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008080311&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libSystem.B.dylib] - presumably a large degree are 1passwd in addition to plug-ins, although details remain illusive; bit of a spike this week
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** Icon work for 2.0 - philippe working on ideas for zoom icons; Sam promised updates months ago
 
** Icon work for 2.0 - philippe working on ideas for zoom icons; Sam promised updates months ago
 
** breakpad - can we lock smorgan and mento in a room next weekend?
 
** breakpad - can we lock smorgan and mento in a room next weekend?
** Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work)
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** Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see [[User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings]])
 
** Flashblock whitelist - awaiting sr
 
** Flashblock whitelist - awaiting sr
 
** Growl - waiting on reviews of blocking bugs?
 
** Growl - waiting on reviews of blocking bugs?

Latest revision as of 22:34, 9 December 2008

Wed 10 Dec 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

  • Camino 2.0a1
  • Camino 1.6.5
    • Released three weeks ago
    • Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.5 crashes )
    • Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
    • Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
    • Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
  • Camino 1.6.6
    • Gecko release set for 16 Dec (probably Gecko 1.8.1 EOL from a practical perspective)
    • We have nothing besides the (landed) Flashblock upgrade
    • Should spin this next week and release towards the holidays
  • Camino 2.0
    • Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
      • Retriaging 2.0 list; smorgan and ardissone alternate weeks
      • Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b2 and add l10n to the whiteboard
      • Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - Bug 458205
    • Anti-phishing - can't get permission :(
    • Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones
    • Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken
    • Tabsposé - need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
    • Tab dragging - scroll dragging?
    • Fullscreen - hendy looking at other bugs (taller tabs)
    • Icon work for 2.0 - philippe working on ideas for zoom icons; Sam promised updates months ago
    • breakpad - can we lock smorgan and mento in a room next weekend?
    • Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings)
    • Flashblock whitelist - awaiting sr
    • Growl - waiting on reviews of blocking bugs?
    • What's left for 2.0b1 (blocking a build)?
      • Patch for 10.4 bug differs from Stuart's version
      • Nasty UE bugs (minus them?)
      • Awaiting sr on ①bg tab dragging, ②Flashblock whitelist, ③taller tabs
      • Relnotes
  • Tinderboxen
    • boxset is no longer reporting to tinderbox (again); over to IT - Bug 467190
      • Currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
      • had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
    • cb-x1 still reporting with truncated hostname; also, starting to die again Bug 458217
    • cb-minimaya running "1.6-M1.8" Ts (65 min dep)
    • cb-minibinus running "2.0-M1.9" Ts (45 min dep)
    • PPC minis need weekly reboots to keep running
    • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
  • Dev docs
    • setting breakpoints in Gecko files:
      [10:38pm] hendy: i set a breakpoint in nsNativeThemeCocoa.mm, but when i run Camino, the debugger console says Warning - No location found for "nsNativeThemeCocoa.mm:427". What do i need to do?
    • CBSamplePane: can now build branch-compatible pane using trunk files; cl needs to address review comments
    • Development:Reviewing split code style, patch preparation, etc. into Development:Coding
    • need mento to verify the scp commands for staging
  • Weekly Bugs and Queues update
    • Some queue movement this weekend/this week, though still high

Specific bugs that need action

2.0b1pre

  • See 2.0b1? list
  • Cocoa widgets still pretty scary; there are a number of regressions we'll be stuck with

1.6.5

Other (if there's time)

  • cl's buglist
    • Bug 175748 - Need mechanism for creating new blank bookmarks
    • Bug 318931 - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on Bug 438256?)
    • Bug 363664 - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"
  • xpfe cleanup
    • see older Agendas if you're interested

Queries

Camino 2.0b1

Camino 2.0b2

  • l10n (9) [-1 since last week]

Camino 2.0

Queues