Status Meetings:2008-06-04:Agenda

Wed 4 Jun 9am PDT (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

• Camino 1.6.1
  • Released two Tuesdays ago
  • Spanish Bookmarks Manager broken on some OSes; fixed ML (with Fr update fix) ready
  • Talkback (all 1.6.1 crashes—677 so far)
    • #1 is Flash
    • #2 is libSystem.B.dylib (Real, other plug-ins, odd Camino code)
    • #3 is Core crash-on-quit
    • #4 is libobjc
    • #5/6 are random hex (0xfffeff20/0xfffeff18)
  • Load was pretty heavy on the server, but things held up better. We didn't use the dynamic feed generator since Sam is out of the office this week and couldn't be there to reboot. Load on website is still uneven; Sam working with sysadmin friend this week.
  • Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
  • Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
• Camino 1.6.2
  • Gecko 1.8.1.15 freeze set for Friday; release set for June 24
  • We have a couple of bugs to take; need to get them landed on trunk first (blocked on tinderbox)
• Camino 2.0
  • Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
  • Stuart's started triaging the 2.0 list (3 criteria: regressions, make life better now, someone working on it)
  • Stuart has started on the regressions
  • Cocoa Widget "fixes" are making life pretty rough
  • Anti-phishing patch posted for review. Follow up bugs include adding preferences UI, using a (perhaps more generalized) notification bar after the warning page has been ignored, and manually adding test URLs to the database.
  • Tabsposé update
  • Tab dragging?
• Meet-up
  • Coming up very soon; wiki has latest details
• Tinderboxen
  • cb-x1 is dying (offline over the weekend, hanging, etc. now; IT looking) - Bug 435927
    • will try to bring up a couple of our minis to restore trunk and branch builds
  • cb-minimaya unreachable - Bug 436642
  • cb-minibinus not helpful here (10.3.9)
  • boxset stopped reporting to tinderbox eight Thurs ago; Sam working on new mail server - Bug 425138
  • something's wrong (with Ts) on cb-xserve01; reboot didn't help - Bug 421031
    • this happened again last week; we got it back to 421031 levels, but not pre-421031 levels
  • no new news on binus or maya?
  • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
  • we should think about setting up a testerbox to catch Core bugs breaking embedding APIs (mini-mayaTrunk alternate builds? mini-binus?)
• Dev docs
  • cl rev'ed CBSamplePane and docs last week - (Bug 384800
  • Can we get a quick list of some examples in our code (mxr links) of various ways of
    • Calling private APIs
    • Writing safe code for latest-OS-only features

    Add here; we're getting more patches wanting to do these things, so even if "the" solution cannot be prescribed, examples of various situations and techniques will help

• Weekly Bugs and Queues update
  • r queue starting to get full again; also, 2.0 lists unchanged for several weeks.

Specific bugs that need action

2.0a1pre

• See 2.0a1? list
• Cocoa widgets still pretty scary; there are a number of regressions we'll be stuck with
• Security UI cleanup

1.6.2

• More toolbar icons coming?

Other (if there's time)

• 10.5 Visual UX
  • Bookmark bar - Bug 401340
  • Tab bar
  • Toolbar icons - Bug 384725
    • We have a designer working on polishing
  • App icon lines - Bug 402967
  • Folders (UNCO) - Bug 436012

• xpfe cleanup
  • Bug 383085 has a patch to remove a number of xpfe directories
  • stefanh has a "build finishes, crashes on startup" MOZ_XUL_APP patch
    [4:16pm] stefanh: "<Standard8>stefanh, so, my guess is you need to implement something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/app/ (nsSuiteApp.cpp, application.ini, Makefile.in) somewhere in camino"
    [4:16pm] stefanh: "stefanh, when you flip the flags, the main things that'll affect you immediately are the startup code, command line handlers and possibly alerts
    [4:16pm] stefanh: stefanh, so xpfe/components/startup/ -> toolkit/components/commandlines toolkit/components/startup etc"
    [4:17pm] stefanh: ardissone|ish: feel free to play with the code :P

Queries

Camino 2.0a1

• Blocking ? (5) [unchanged]
• Blocking + (1) [unchanged]
• Blocking - (0) [unchanged]

Camino 2.0

• Bugs targeted at 2.0 (47) [unchanged]
• Blocking ? (3) [unchanged] (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation)
• Blocking + (0) [unchanged]
• Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
• Bugs without target (606) [+3 since last week]

• Bugs fixed since last meeting (1) [-3 since last week] (Old, already-fixed website bug)

Queues

• Review (15) [+2 since last week]
• Superreview (3) [+2 since last week]