Status Meetings:2009-01-21:Agenda

Wed 21 Jan 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

• Camino 2.0b1
  • Released four weeks ago
  • Talkback broken here, too (all 2.0b1 crashes — 91 so far, adding ≈25/week)
    • #1 is libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0
    • #2 is Bug 471948 (crash on quit in nsAppShell, seen a couple times in 2.0a1; first frame in various libs/fmwks)
    • #3 is CHBrowserView%20contentViewer (1Password-related, 1P may have a fix; see Bug 471681)
    • #3 Core crash-on-quit (Bug 349463)
    • #5 is Cocoa.12.0.0
    • #5 is CoreFoundation.476.17.0
    • Also, 6 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling (TB51979682x, TB51970202x, TB52185198x, TB52293795x, TB52430931x [new], TB52529031x [new])
  • Bug 472196 is another _NSAutoReleaseNoPool episode (10.4-only?), leaking MainController and Cocoa stuff; where do we go from here?
  • Bug 470159 - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related?
• Camino 1.6.6
  • Released five weeks ago
  • Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary
  • Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.6 crashes — ??? already)
    • Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 698
  • Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
  • Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
• Camino 1.6.7
  • Officially Gecko is done, but more releases are possible
  • We didn't declare 1.6.6 EOL (no stable release yet)
  • One major bug in search plugins on 10.3 - Bug 469236
  • 1Password-related crash affects 1.6.x and 2.0nx - Bug 471681
• Camino 2.0
  • Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
    • Need to retriage 2.0 list again soon
    • Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b2 and add l10n to the whiteboard
    • Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - Bug 458205
    • Picking up new Gecko bugs and issues with Flashblock Bug 474022, Bug 474153
  • Anti-phishing - can't get permission :(
  • Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - Bug 470159
  • Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken
  • Tabsposé - need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
  • Tab dragging - scroll dragging, 10.4 bugs, pref patch?
  • Icon work for 2.0 - philippe’s zoom icons (Bug 450542); Sam promised updates months ago
  • breakpad - smorgan writing the reporter client
  • Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings)
  • Growl - waiting on sr (though needs l10n fix); framework integration (16+ MB of source)
  • Fullscreen -
  • CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews (needs reviewer)
• Tinderboxen
  • boxset - currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
    • had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
  • What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
  • cb-x1 still reporting with truncated hostname; also, starting to die again Bug 458217
  • cb-minimaya running "1.6-M1.8" Ts (65 min dep)
  • cb-minibinus running "2.0-M1.9" Ts (45 min dep)
  • PPC minis need weekly reboots to keep running
  • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
• Weekly Bugs and Queues update
  • Another very slow week coming back from holidays; r queue still high, sr queue climbing

Specific bugs that need action

2.0b2pre

• See 2.0b2? list
• Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with

Other (if there's time)

• 10.5 Visual UX
  • Bookmark bar - Bug 401340
  • Tab bar
  • Toolbar icons - Bug 384725
    • We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
  • App icon lines - Bug 402967
  • Folders (UNCO) - Bug 436012

• cl's buglist
  • Bug 175748 - Need mechanism for creating new blank bookmarks
  • Bug 318931 - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on Bug 438256?)
  • Bug 363664 - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"

• xpfe cleanup
  • see older Agendas if you're interested

Queries

Camino 2.0b2

• Blocking ? (10) [unchanged]
• Blocking + (1) [unchanged]
• Blocking - (0) [unchanged]

• l10n (7) [unchanged]

Camino 2.0

• Bugs targeted at 2.0 (24) [unchanged]
• Blocking ? (10) [unchanged] (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation)
• Blocking + (1) [unchanged]
• Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
• Bugs without target (698) [+8 since last week] need a “CLOSEME”/UNCO cleanup

• Bugs fixed since last meeting (0) [-2 since last week]

Queues

• Review (12) [unchanged] 2 untargeted
• Superreview (8) [+3 since last meeting]