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* Camino 2.0b2
 
* Camino 2.0b2
 
** Released seven and a half weeks ago
 
** Released seven and a half weeks ago
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009022317&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b2 crashes] — 229 so far, ~40 this week)
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009022317&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b2 crashes] — 263 so far, ~35 this week)
*** #1 <!--(24)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}}
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*** #1 <!--(30)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}}
*** #2 <!--(18)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|Flash%20Player}}
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*** #2 <!--(20)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|Flash%20Player}}
*** #3 <!--(15)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|0xfffeff20}} (rise in this + other random hex)
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*** #3 <!--(18)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|0xfffeff20}} (rise in this + other random hex)
 
*** #4 <!--(11)--> is Core crash-on-quit {{bug|349463}}
 
*** #4 <!--(11)--> is Core crash-on-quit {{bug|349463}}
 
*** #5 <!--(10)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}}
 
*** #5 <!--(10)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}}
*** #5 <!--(8)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}}
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*** #5 <!--(10)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}}
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*** #5 <!--(10)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|0xfffeff18}}
 
*** Lots of pairs of random Gecko
 
*** Lots of pairs of random Gecko
*** Crash, followed by 2 startup crashes in nsWebBrowser::BindListener [http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/embedding/browser/webBrowser/nsWebBrowser.cpp&mark=272&rev=#272] {{TB|53984300}}, {{TB|53984391}}, {{TB|53984408}} ({{bug|431454}}?)
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*** {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|PostMessageEvent::Run}} recent surge; {{TB|54207249}} and {{TB|53433617}} representative
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<!--*** Crash, followed by 2 startup crashes in nsWebBrowser::BindListener [http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/embedding/browser/webBrowser/nsWebBrowser.cpp&mark=272&rev=#272] {{TB|53984300}}, {{TB|53984391}}, {{TB|53984408}} ({{bug|431454}}?)
 
*** Swizzling, or AppKit?: "Listening to pandori in the mini window. I command clicked the little disclosure icon in the top right corner because I wanted to use small icons instead of large. Epic fail." {{TB|54076715}}
 
*** Swizzling, or AppKit?: "Listening to pandori in the mini window. I command clicked the little disclosure icon in the top right corner because I wanted to use small icons instead of large. Epic fail." {{TB|54076715}}
*** {{TB|54032591}} - CoreFoundation / nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification / nsWebBrowser::SetDocShell / nsWebBrowser::InternalDestroy / nsWebBrowser::Destroy  
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*** {{TB|54032591}} - CoreFoundation / nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification / nsWebBrowser::SetDocShell / nsWebBrowser::InternalDestroy / nsWebBrowser::Destroy -->
<!--*** 5 corrupt-font-related crashes-->
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<!--*** 6 corrupt-font-related crashes-->
<!--*** #4 !--(6)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SystemConfiguration.212.2.0}}
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<!--*** #5 !--(4)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libdjHPUtils.10.2.dylib.10.2.0}} ({{TB|53536170}} involves 1P and shutdown)
*** #5 !--(4)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libdjHPUtils.10.2.dylib.10.2.0}} ({{TB|53536170}} involves 1P and shutdown)
 
 
-->
 
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*** Swizzles: <!--{{TB|53253501}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53259627}} [nsObjcException], {{TB|53242747}} [nsFrame::Destroy], {{TB|53250277}} [CoreFoundation], {{TB|53405594}} [libstdc++.6.dylib.7.4.0], {{TB|53513861}} [CoreFoundation] , {{TB|53443216}} [libobjc], {{TB|53554877}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53584737}} [isTextBasedContent], {{TB|53588903}} [CoreFoundation], {{TB|53629780}} [libobjc], {{TB|53582181}} [libobjc+sluggish], {{TB|53692180}} [libobjc], {{TB|53561223}} [libSystemB], {{TB|53681416}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53722431}} [Cocoa], {{TB|53813806}} [Cocoa], {{TB|53715259}} [libobjc], {{TB|53745487}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53862261}} [0xfffeff18/QT] [new], {{TB|53858034}} [0xfffeff20] [new], {{TB|53957940}} [CoreFoundation] [new], {{TB|53934959}} [CoreFoundation] [new], {{TB|53919637}} [Cocoa] [new], {{TB|53880688}} [libSystem.B] [new]--> 3 isTextBasedContent, aforementioned toolbar lozenge, {{TB|54053263}} [QT]  
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*** Swizzles: <!--{{TB|53253501}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53259627}} [nsObjcException], {{TB|53242747}} [nsFrame::Destroy], {{TB|53250277}} [CoreFoundation], {{TB|53405594}} [libstdc++.6.dylib.7.4.0], {{TB|53513861}} [CoreFoundation] , {{TB|53443216}} [libobjc], {{TB|53554877}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53584737}} [isTextBasedContent], {{TB|53588903}} [CoreFoundation], {{TB|53629780}} [libobjc], {{TB|53582181}} [libobjc+sluggish], {{TB|53692180}} [libobjc], {{TB|53561223}} [libSystemB], {{TB|53681416}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53722431}} [Cocoa], {{TB|53813806}} [Cocoa], {{TB|53715259}} [libobjc], {{TB|53745487}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53862261}} [0xfffeff18/QT] [new], {{TB|53858034}} [0xfffeff20] [new], {{TB|53957940}} [CoreFoundation] [new], {{TB|53934959}} [CoreFoundation] [new], {{TB|53919637}} [Cocoa] [new], {{TB|53880688}} [libSystem.B] [new] | 3 isTextBasedContent, aforementioned toolbar lozenge, {{TB|54053263}} [QT] | --> {{TB|54223252}} & {{TB|54150377}} [AppKit]
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*** Also, OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|51979682}}, {{TB|51970202}}, {{TB|52185198}}, {{TB|52293795}}, {{TB|52430931}}, {{TB|52529031}}, {{TB|52541896}}, {{TB|52761804}}, {{TB|52688239}} [AB] {{TB|52749126}} [AB], {{TB|52877218}}, {{TB|52856409}} [RolloverImageButton], {{TB|52846948}} [AB], {{TB|52899423}}, {{TB|53031023}} [AB] [new])-->
 
 
** {{bug|470159}} - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related?
 
** {{bug|470159}} - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related?
 
** {{TB|53075806}} - crash in NSS when quitting
 
** {{TB|53075806}} - crash in NSS when quitting
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** Released three weeks ago
 
** Released three weeks ago
 
<!--** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary-->
 
<!--** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary-->
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM167/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009032711&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.7 crashes] — 594, ~ +300<!--; that's on par with 1.6.x series, though 1.6.5 was much less crashy-->)
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM167/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009032711&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.7 crashes] — 906, ~ +300<!--; that's on par with 1.6.x series, though 1.6.5 was much less crashy-->)
 
<!--*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 2597-->
 
<!--*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 2597-->
*** #1 <!--111-->is Flash
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*** #1 <!--157-->is Flash
*** #2 <!--49-->is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|libSystem.B}}
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*** #2 <!--73-->is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|libSystem.B}}
*** #3 <!--38-->is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|libObjC.A.dylib}}
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*** #3 <!--49-->is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|libObjC.A.dylib}}
*** #4 <!--25-->is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|CoreFoundation}} (many with comments are plugins)
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*** #4 <!--38-->is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|CoreFoundation}} (many with comments are plugins)
*** 191 random hex
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*** 278 random hex
 
<!--** 4 in {{TBsig|16|2009032711|AE.312}} where 1Password is the next frame; at least 1 ({{TB|53894194}}) additional CF crash with 1P *and* CamiTools :P -->
 
<!--** 4 in {{TBsig|16|2009032711|AE.312}} where 1Password is the next frame; at least 1 ({{TB|53894194}}) additional CF crash with 1P *and* CamiTools :P -->
 
** World ending?: {{TB|53989872}}, {{TB|53989873}} (on startup right after previous crash)
 
** World ending?: {{TB|53989872}}, {{TB|53989873}} (on startup right after previous crash)

Latest revision as of 23:07, 21 April 2009

Wed 22 Apr 9am PDT (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

  • Camino 2.0b2
  • Camino 1.6.7
    • Released three weeks ago
    • Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.7 crashes — 906, ~ +300)
    • World ending?: TB53989872x, TB53989873x (on startup right after previous crash)
    • Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
    • Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
  • Camino 1.6.8
    • Nothing yet
  • Summer of Code 2009
  • Camino 2.0
    • Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
      • Need to retriage 2.0 list (and blocking? list) again soon
      • Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b3 and add l10n to the whiteboard
      • Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - Bug 458205
        • Key handling order changed right after b2 to let Camino menus have first crack; we need to make sure there are no unexpected regressions
    • Anti-phishing - Bug 476543 Ts regression all over (10% on minus); lots of follow-ups
    • Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - Bug 470159
    • Security exceptions - critical follow-up (show/edit exceptions) hackaround r?hendy
    • Tabsposé - NSControl, need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
    • Tab dragging - perf patch, bugs reported against 10.4, scroll dragging?
    • breakpad - shipping and reporting, but no symbols; Bug 489123 for follow-ups
    • UTF-8 - bookmarks manager needs new patch, then autocompletion typing
    • Flashblock CM -
    • Downloading - need new nib+patch for Bug 407883
    • Zoom - need to decide on Bug 452557 (toggle for text zoom/default keystrokes)
    • Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings)
    • Icon work for 2.0 - Sam promised updates months ago
    • CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews (needs reviewer)
  • Tinderboxen
    • boxset - missing from tinderbox yet again Bug 479999
      • currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
      • had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
    • What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
    • cb-x1 starting to die again Bug 458217
      • kernel panic Valentine's weekend[2]
    • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM-->
  • Weekly Bugs and Queues update
    • Good movement on Breakpad-related bugs; less movement elsewhere
  • Camino is a finalist in the Cnet Webware100

Specific bugs that need action

2.0b3pre

  • See 2.0b3? list
  • Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with

1.6.8

Other (if there's time)

  • 10.5 Visual UX
  • xpfe cleanup
    • see older Agendas if you're interested

Queries

Camino 2.0b3

  • l10n (19) [unchanged]

Camino 2.0

Queues