Status Meetings:2009-04-15:Agenda

Wed 15 Apr 9am PDT (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

• Camino 2.0b2
  • Released six and a half weeks ago
  • Talkback broken here, too (all 2.0b2 crashes — 229 so far, ~40 this week)
    • #1 is libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0
    • #2 is Flash%20Player
    • #3 is 0xfffeff20 (rise in this + other random hex)
    • #4 is Core crash-on-quit Bug 349463
    • #5 is CoreFoundation.476.17.0
    • #5 is nsObjCExceptionLogAbort
    • Lots of pairs of random Gecko
    • Crash, followed by 2 startup crashes in nsWebBrowser::BindListener [1] TB53984300x, TB53984391x, TB53984408x (Bug 431454?)
    • Swizzling, or AppKit?: "Listening to pandori in the mini window. I command clicked the little disclosure icon in the top right corner because I wanted to use small icons instead of large. Epic fail." TB54076715x
    • TB54032591x - CoreFoundation / nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification / nsWebBrowser::SetDocShell / nsWebBrowser::InternalDestroy / nsWebBrowser::Destroy
    • Swizzles: 3 isTextBasedContent, aforementioned toolbar lozenge, TB54053263x [QT]
  • Bug 470159 - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related?
  • TB53075806x - crash in NSS when quitting
  • TB53502037x - Unnamed plug-in crashing while we're showing an alert?
• Camino 1.6.7
  • Released two weeks ago
  • Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.7 crashes — 594, ~ +300)
    • #1 is Flash
    • #2 is libSystem.B
    • #3 is libObjC.A.dylib
    • #4 is CoreFoundation (many with comments are plugins)
    • 191 random hex
  • World ending?: TB53989872x, TB53989873x (on startup right after previous crash)
  • Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
  • Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
• Camino 1.6.8
  • Nothing yet
• Summer of Code 2009
  • Student applications closed two weeks ago; results announced 20 Apr (next Monday)
• Camino 2.0
  • Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
    • Need to retriage 2.0 list (and blocking? list) again soon
    • Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b3 and add l10n to the whiteboard
    • Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - Bug 458205
      • Key handling order changed right after b2 to let Camino menus have first crack; we need to make sure there are no unexpected regressions
  • Anti-phishing - Bug 476543 Ts regression all over (10% on minus); lots of follow-ups
  • Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - Bug 470159
  • Security exceptions - critical follow-up (show/edit exceptions) hackaround r?hendy
  • Tabsposé - NSControl, need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
  • Tab dragging - perf patch, bugs reported against 10.4, scroll dragging?
  • breakpad - smorgan working on hookup, upstreaming, etc.
  • UTF-8 - bookmarks manager needs new patch, then autocompletion typing
  • Flashblock CM -
  • Downloading - need new nib+patch for Bug 407883
  • Zoom - need to decide on Bug 452557 (toggle for text zoom/default keystrokes)
  • Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings)
  • Icon work for 2.0 - Sam promised updates months ago
  • CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews (needs reviewer)
• Tinderboxen
  • boxset - missing from tinderbox yet again Bug 479999
    • currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
    • had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
  • What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
  • cb-x1 starting to die again Bug 458217
    • kernel panic Valentine's weekend[2]
• Weekly Bugs and Queues update
  • Not much movement again in the past week
• Camino is a finalist in the Cnet Webware100

Specific bugs that need action

2.0b3pre

• See 2.0b3? list
• Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with

Other (if there's time)

• 10.5 Visual UX
  • Bookmark bar - Bug 401340
  • Tab bar
  • Toolbar icons - Bug 384725
    • We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
  • App icon lines - Bug 402967
  • Folders (UNCO) - Bug 436012
• xpfe cleanup
  • see older Agendas if you're interested

Queries

Camino 2.0b3

• Blocking ? (18) [+1 since last week]
• Blocking + (3) [unchanged]
• Blocking - (0) [unchanged]

• l10n (19) [+1 since last week]

Camino 2.0

• Bugs targeted at 2.0 (18) [unchanged]
• Blocking ? (13) [-1 since last week] (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation)
• Blocking + (3) [unchanged]
• Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
• Bugs without target (700) [-19 since last week] need to keep on “CLOSEME”/UNCO cleanup; did a small pass this week

• Bugs fixed since last meeting (5) [+5 since last week] (1 was 2.0-targeted, 1 was ad-blocking, 1 was IT)

Queues

• Review (11) [+2 since last week] 1 untargeted
• Superreview (1) [-1 since last week]