Status Meetings:2007-09-12:Log
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[12:43am] You changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2007-09-12:Agenda". [12:00pm] smorgan joined the chat room. [12:02pm] smorgan was promoted to operator by you. [12:02pm] pinkerton joined the chat room. [12:02pm] pinkerton was promoted to operator by chanserv. [12:02pm] pinkerton: food brb [12:02pm] ardissone|away: k [12:03pm] ardissone|away: very small crowd today [12:08pm] pinkerton: school? [12:08pm] ardissone|away: dunno [12:09pm] ardissone|away: wasn't there school last week? [12:09pm] pinkerton: prolly yes [12:09pm] ardissone|away: jeff did say last night before the great server reboot that he couldn't amke it [12:09pm] ardissone|away: because he was pressured into giving a talk about his SoC at this very time [12:10pm] pinkerton: to whom? [12:10pm] pinkerton: to who? [12:10pm] pinkerton: shrugs [12:10pm] ardissone|away: to whom [12:10pm] pinkerton: k [12:10pm] ardissone|away: the compsci people? [12:10pm] ardissone|away: he wasn't specific, and i wasn't here then [12:10pm] pinkerton: oh at his school ok [12:11pm] pinkerton: i've been bad about my sr queue [12:11pm] pinkerton: this has been a long week [12:11pm] ardissone|away: [12:12pm] ardissone|away: one of the ones there is one of smorgan's fixes for the "camino stops working" bug [12:12pm] pinkerton: oh [12:13pm] pinkerton: ok, sorry, i didn't think it was anything urgent [12:13pm] ardissone|away: the other fix we're still waiting on kreeger to r [12:13pm] ardissone|away: yeah, the site icon one catches exceptions that make us stop working [12:14pm] pinkerton: cute [12:14pm] ardissone|away: i thought peeja's toolbar items patch was blocking him getting paid, too, but i'm not positive about that one [12:15pm] pinkerton: he hasn't bugged me about it. i cleared his path on bookmarks/w&t for his check last week i think [12:15pm] ardissone|away: ok [12:15pm] pinkerton: do you know where we are with new icons for leopard? [12:16pm] ardissone|away: looking for an artist, i think [12:16pm] pinkerton: drat ok [12:16pm] pinkerton: ss: ping? [12:16pm] ardissone|away: he's apparently always in a meeting that runs really long [12:17pm] ardissone|away: i tried to get him here today because i thought i wouldn't be here [12:17pm] pinkerton: frank approached me about the slim possibility of funding some camino work, wanted to ask him about it [12:17pm] ardissone|away: [12:18pm] pinkerton: nothing to get our hopes up about, but thought he might know a bit more [12:18pm] pinkerton: wonder if it's because they're now supporting eudora and are feeling guilty [12:18pm] ardissone|away: possibility is better than slamming the door shut in our face [12:18pm] ardissone|away: heh [12:19pm] pinkerton: agreed, frank to his credit has never done that [12:19pm] ardissone|away: frank has always struck me as a good guy [12:19pm] pinkerton: yeah he is, caught between a rock and a hard place [12:19pm] ardissone|away: yeah... [12:20pm] kreeger joined the chat room. [12:20pm] ardissone|away: there's kreeger [12:20pm] pinkerton: well i'll poke ss if i see him around later [12:21pm] ardissone|away: i'll poke him, too, if i see him when you're gone [12:21pm] ardissone|away: kreeger: how's the kqueue review looking? [12:21pm] kreeger: started up again last night, had to move down the street last week/weekend [12:21pm] ardissone|away: k [12:22pm] ardissone|away: anyway [12:22pm] ardissone|away: nothing really new on the 1.6 front [12:23pm] ardissone|away: no code fixes landed last week [12:23pm] ardissone|away: we need to ping batwood again about smorgan's comments on his patches [12:23pm] ardissone|away: er, http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2007-09-12:Agenda if you don't already have it open [12:24pm] smorgan: He emailed me [12:24pm] ardissone|away: ah [12:24pm] smorgan: He said he'd be travelling for about a week, but would look into moving off xpfe [12:24pm] ardissone|away: nice [12:25pm] smorgan: Sorry I haven't had a lot of time/enegery for Camino recently [12:25pm] pinkerton: i've been making sure of that [12:25pm] ardissone|away: it seems like that's been a general affliction [12:26pm] smorgan: Fixing trunks content handling is my next priority, since that's really annoying me, but then 1.6 is back at the top of my list [12:26pm] ardissone|away: yeah, we need to not let that fester [12:27pm] ardissone|away: i wonder if it's the cause of peepo's bug? [12:27pm] smorgan: I've got it partially fixed locally [12:27pm] ardissone|away: [12:27pm] smorgan: It's pretty much just hooking up a prompt and looking into whether we need to ship that rdf file now [12:27pm] ardissone|away: we have a mimeTypes.rdf in the profile [12:28pm] ardissone|away: but it was blank, iirc [12:28pm] smorgan: Yeah, my thought was we probably don't need to ship anything and it will be created as needed [12:28pm] ardissone|away: but you never know with moz [12:28pm] smorgan: I'll see once our front-end stuff is hooked up [12:29pm] ardissone|away: do we know more about how long mento's "a few weeks off" was going to be? [12:29pm] You are now known as ardissone. [12:30pm] ardissone: not that i want to pull him out of time off, just when we might expect him back [12:31pm] ardissone: i don't know if anyone can find anything useful in the nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement stacks or not [12:31pm] ardissone: but that's our new #5 topcrash [12:31pm] smorgan: Is there a bug? [12:32pm] ardissone: comments have been less-than-useful; just startup, or running a search [12:32pm] ardissone: no [12:32pm] ardissone: i was too tired last night [12:33pm] ardissone: i'll try to catch sam and see if i can get some emails to try, too [12:33pm] ardissone: speaking of sam [12:33pm] ardissone: meet-up notes are up: http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Camino_Meet-up:2007:Notes [12:34pm] ardissone: i'll try this week to sync the 1.6 scoping docs and bugzilla with the the 1.6 plan there [12:36pm] ardissone: SoC [12:36pm] ardissone: [11:03pm] jeff: ss: I wont be at the mtg tomorrow, I was pressured into giving a talk about my SoC experiences at the same time of the mtg [12:36pm] ardissone: [11:03pm] ss: Ah... [12:36pm] ardissone: [11:04pm] jeff: so, updates from me are that I am just sorry I have not submitted some tabspose patches I have sitting around and will post them as soon as I can [12:36pm] ardissone: [11:05pm] jeff: but I will be back with a vengeance in about 5 days [12:36pm] ardissone: [11:06pm] ss: You better. [12:36pm] ardissone: [11:06pm] ss: Or I'll come over there [12:36pm] ardissone: [11:06pm] jeff: I have been neglecting camino for the past week and a half and I am already feeling down about it [12:36pm] ardissone: [11:06pm] ss: And make you buy me dinner. [12:37pm] pinkerton: lol [12:38pm] pinkerton: oh taht was cool of him [12:38pm] pinkerton: (the notes) [12:38pm] ardissone: yeah, the rest of us are no longer in the dark [12:38pm] pinkerton: haha, he included webkit [12:39pm] ardissone: i don't know about peeja, other than he was going to look at the bookmark-eating dataloss bug this week [12:40pm] ardissone: and i've been filing various bugs as i find them [12:40pm] ardissone: the big issue with AS right now is that we can't actually create new windows and tabs [12:41pm] ardissone: which due to AS/Cocoa stupidness, will require some hairy wrapper work in our guts AIUI [12:44pm] peeja|sleep joined the chat room. [12:44pm] peeja|sleep was promoted to operator by you. [12:44pm] kreeger was promoted to operator by you. [12:44pm] ardissone: peeja|sleep: we were just talking about you [12:45pm] peeja|sleep is now known as peeja. [12:45pm] peeja: great [12:45pm] pinkerton: is it true what perez said about you!?!?!? [12:45pm] smorgan: ... and in conclusion that's why I think he's a slimeball [12:45pm] smorgan: oh, crap [12:45pm] smorgan: [12:45pm] ardissone: hehe [12:45pm] ardissone: [12:39pm] ardissone: i don't know about peeja, other than he was going to look at the bookmark-eating dataloss bug this week [12:45pm] ardissone: [12:40pm] ardissone: and i've been filing various bugs as i find them [12:45pm] ardissone: [12:40pm] ardissone: the big issue with AS right now is that we can't actually create new windows and tabs [12:45pm] ardissone: [12:41pm] ardissone: which due to AS/Cocoa stupidness, will require some hairy wrapper work in our guts AIUI [12:46pm] peeja: ardissone: yes, and yes [12:46pm] smorgan: And if opening bookmarks is using page content, we need a bug about that too [12:46pm] peeja: i haven't really done much this week, still adjusting to being in classes again [12:47pm] peeja: smorgan: sorry? [12:47pm] smorgan: There was discussion in channel recently suggesting that opening a boomarklet via AS uses page context [12:48pm] peeja: yes, well that's not strictly true [12:48pm] smorgan: Problem solved then [12:48pm] peeja: its really that setting the url of a tab to a javascript: url does [12:48pm] peeja: which means as long as people can execute javascript from the location bar in page context, we'll have that problem [12:49pm] smorgan: I don't follow [12:49pm] peeja: unless we "set url" via a completely different mechanism [12:49pm] smorgan: Why can't we change the way AS works? [12:49pm] smorgan: Er, the way we handle AS, rather [12:49pm] peeja: we can, I suppose, but we'll need a way to change the url of a BW that doesn't execute javascript: in page context [12:50pm] peeja: that's Browser Wrapper [12:50pm] smorgan: Sorry, this can be offline, we just need a bug about it [12:50pm] peeja: ok, I'm just saying it's not that simple. but it's worth a bug. [12:50pm] ardissone: i don't really have anything else for today; everything's pretty much the same as last week [12:51pm] ardissone: except the sr queue is now almost the size of the r queue [12:51pm] ardissone: (which size hasn't changed in months) [12:51pm] pinkerton: i'll get there [12:52pm] ardissone: (see the log if you missed the earlier talk about that) [12:54pm] ardissone: anyone else have anything to add? [12:55pm] kreeger left the chat room. [12:57pm] ardissone: ok then [12:57pm] ardissone: have a good rest of the week everyone [12:57pm] peeja left the chat room.