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==General Plans==
 
==General Plans==
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* Next week (day after Christmas) - are we meeting?
 
* Camino 1.6a1
 
* Camino 1.6a1
 
** Released last Wed
 
** Released last Wed
** probably going to see the 1.5.x topcrasher crashing it, too, when we get working [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM16a1/index.html talkback]
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** probably going to see the 1.5.x topcrasher crashing it, too, when we get working [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM16a1/index.html talkback] ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2007120712&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=500 all 1.6a1 crashes])
** ardissone and ss adding some additional links from cbo to preview site
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** ardissone and ss added some additional links from cbo to preview site (art help from jeff)
** Are we getting enough user coverage?
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** Are we getting enough user coverage? Talkback suggests no using the nsCOMPtr_base crashes for a comparison (also, +3 crashes between Mon eve and Tues eve)
 
* Camino 1.6b1
 
* Camino 1.6b1
 
** What P1/P2 features won't make it?
 
** What P1/P2 features won't make it?
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** Released last Wed
 
** Released last Wed
 
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM154/index.html Talkback] for 1.5.4
 
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM154/index.html Talkback] for 1.5.4
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*** topcrasher (#1, #2, and #5) already fixed; it's on quit, but it's pretty heavy
 
**** The change that caused it landed on the MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH one month before we spun 1.5.4 RC build.  Are we not getting enough testing of the branch, or is it only manifest on 1_5_BRANCH (1_8 talkback suggest no, but not many stacks)?
 
**** The change that caused it landed on the MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH one month before we spun 1.5.4 RC build.  Are we not getting enough testing of the branch, or is it only manifest on 1_5_BRANCH (1_8 talkback suggest no, but not many stacks)?
*** Flash is #3
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*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #3 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #4 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
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*** Flash is #4
*** #5 is asstd libSystemB crashes
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*** #6 is asstd libSystemB crashes, mostly related to plug-ins (Flash, QT, Divx, F4M)
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*** #7 is a 10.5.1 Flash-related crash, possibly all 1 user
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*** #8 is a random hex, AppKit/JEP/metadata
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*** #9 is libobjc, all pretty random except for one 1passwd
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*** #10 is FillFontInfoFromCMAP, possibly related to Asian fonts
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*** 5 of 20 [http://tinyurl.com/2e3b3o libobjc] (#3) crashes are 1passwd
 
*** 5 of 20 [http://tinyurl.com/2e3b3o libobjc] (#3) crashes are 1passwd
 
*** libSystemB (#4) {{Bug|401835}} is plugin-related (where there are constant stacks; we have some emails, if there's anything we might ask them)
 
*** libSystemB (#4) {{Bug|401835}} is plugin-related (where there are constant stacks; we have some emails, if there's anything we might ask them)
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** Bugs
 
** Bugs
 
** Building
 
** Building
*** Not currently possible to build PPC with gcc 3.3/10.3.9 SDK - {{bug|401768}} (waiting on approval for the new NSPR tag in client.mk)
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*** Not currently possible to build PPC with gcc 3.3/10.3.9 SDK - {{bug|401768}} (waiting on approval for the new NSPR tag in client.mk, {{bug|408755}})
 
* Tinderboxen
 
* Tinderboxen
 
** linear-ish T* increases on boxset (Tp, Tdhtml dropped a bit recently; Ts still rising) and maya; maya reboot helped some
 
** linear-ish T* increases on boxset (Tp, Tdhtml dropped a bit recently; Ts still rising) and maya; maya reboot helped some
 
** no new news on binus or maya
 
** no new news on binus or maya
** ss seeking replacement minis for binus (to run 10.3) and maya
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** ss has replacement minis for binus (to run 10.3) and mayaTrunk; they'll go to the colo after Christmas?
** cb-miniosx01 is the first 10.5 tinderbox in all of Mozillaland
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** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
*** needs mozconfig and tinderconfig in cvs
 
 
** we should think about setting up a testerbox to catch Core bugs breaking embedding APIs (mayaTrunk mini alternate builds?)
 
** we should think about setting up a testerbox to catch Core bugs breaking embedding APIs (mayaTrunk mini alternate builds?)
 
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
 
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** mento is on fire! Sadly, this means our r queue is also growing again.
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** We cleared 20 bugs last week (mento and smorgan on fire); unfortunately, the most of the same 15 are still in the review queue :(  Markus (friend of hwaara and our Swedish translator) has begun submitting patches to fix bugs.
  
 
==Specific bugs that need action==
 
==Specific bugs that need action==
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===Camino 1.6b1===
 
===Camino 1.6b1===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b1%3F  Blocking ?] <!-- (5) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b1%3F  Blocking ?] (11) {{greyText|[+6 since last week]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b1%2B  Blocking +] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} {{greyText|not including some parts of swupdate}} subtract FIXED here-->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b1%2B  Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} <!-- {{greyText|not including some parts of swupdate}} subtract FIXED here-->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b1- Blocking -] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}}  -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- -->
  
 
===Camino 1.6===
 
===Camino 1.6===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] <!-- (35) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}  -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] (36) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} <!-- -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?] <!-- (7) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation)  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?] (8) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation) <!-- (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +] <!-- (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) subtract FIXED here-->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}}  -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] <!-- (551) {{greyText|['''+12''' since last week]}}  '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (541) {{greyText|['''-10''' since last week]}} <!-- '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->
  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2007-12-12&chfieldto=2007-12-19&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] <!-- ('''12''') {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (4 were 1.6-targeted, 1 was website, 3 were trunk-only) , 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2007-12-12&chfieldto=2007-12-19&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''20''') {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (18 were 1.6-targeted)<!-- , 1 was website, 3 were trunk-only) , 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) -->
  
 
==Queues==
 
==Queues==
  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] <!-- (19) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} '''1 untargeted''' -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (15) {{greyText|[-4 since last week]}} '''1 untargeted''' <!-- -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] <!-- (5) {{greyText|[+5 since last week]}} (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] (1) {{greyText|[-4 since last week]}} <!-- (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
  
 
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=checkin-needed&chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=checkin-needed&chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=project&chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} --><!--  -->
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=project&chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} --><!--  -->

Latest revision as of 23:41, 18 December 2007

Wed 19 Dec 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

  • Next week (day after Christmas) - are we meeting?
  • Camino 1.6a1
    • Released last Wed
    • probably going to see the 1.5.x topcrasher crashing it, too, when we get working talkback (all 1.6a1 crashes)
    • ardissone and ss added some additional links from cbo to preview site (art help from jeff)
    • Are we getting enough user coverage? Talkback suggests no using the nsCOMPtr_base crashes for a comparison (also, +3 crashes between Mon eve and Tues eve)
  • Camino 1.6b1
    • What P1/P2 features won't make it?
    • What 10.5 UI integration fixes do we want?
    • l10n freeze, so all strings/nib changes must be done by beta; please nominate these
    • please help out with any P1s (see query below)
  • Camino 1.6
    • Scoping
      • Most of Tab Scrolling is done, as is AppleScript (P3)
      • swupdate: only minor stuff left: Ts regression Bug 405542), appcast script (Bug 401474), testing via b1
      • jeff has been poking the tab dragging code; WIP on Bug 160720, plus he's working on animation
      • batwood has patches for both of his 1.6 bugs (multiple accounts needs new patch after r-)
      • murph has patches for search editor (needs new patch; update?) and OpenSearch (need smorgan [re]review); should have a solution to fully establish a working key-view loop throughout the browser window after that
      • ardissone has been fighting Makefiles for AppleScript feed handlers
      • breakpad: ?
  • Camino 1.5.4
    • Released last Wed
    • Talkback for 1.5.4
      • topcrasher (#1, #2, and #5) already fixed; it's on quit, but it's pretty heavy
        • The change that caused it landed on the MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH one month before we spun 1.5.4 RC build. Are we not getting enough testing of the branch, or is it only manifest on 1_5_BRANCH (1_8 talkback suggest no, but not many stacks)?
      • Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core Bug 349463) is #3 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
      • Flash is #4
      • #6 is asstd libSystemB crashes, mostly related to plug-ins (Flash, QT, Divx, F4M)
      • #7 is a 10.5.1 Flash-related crash, possibly all 1 user
      • #8 is a random hex, AppKit/JEP/metadata
      • #9 is libobjc, all pretty random except for one 1passwd
      • #10 is FillFontInfoFromCMAP, possibly related to Asian fonts
    • Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
  • 10.5 Issues
    • Visual
    • Bugs
    • Building
      • Not currently possible to build PPC with gcc 3.3/10.3.9 SDK - Bug 401768 (waiting on approval for the new NSPR tag in client.mk, Bug 408755)
  • Tinderboxen
    • linear-ish T* increases on boxset (Tp, Tdhtml dropped a bit recently; Ts still rising) and maya; maya reboot helped some
    • no new news on binus or maya
    • ss has replacement minis for binus (to run 10.3) and mayaTrunk; they'll go to the colo after Christmas?
    • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
    • we should think about setting up a testerbox to catch Core bugs breaking embedding APIs (mayaTrunk mini alternate builds?)
  • Weekly Bugs and Queues update
    • We cleared 20 bugs last week (mento and smorgan on fire); unfortunately, the most of the same 15 are still in the review queue :( Markus (friend of hwaara and our Swedish translator) has begun submitting patches to fix bugs.

Specific bugs that need action

1.6b1pre

  • Bug 408593 - Only check for the default browser once

1.5.5

Other (if there's time)

  • UNCOs
    • Bug 376930 - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen
      • Need to find a way to "promote" this as an area we'd like user feedback on in 1.6a1 (we note this as a feature on the preview site)
  • Trunk
    • mainly the background drawing/tab-bleeding-on-10.4 bug (Bug 406784) remains
    • Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they're Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.
    • xpfe cleanup
      • see older Agendas if you're interested

Queries

Camino 1.6b1

Camino 1.6

Queues