Status Meetings:2008-04-16:Log
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[11:44am] You were promoted to operator by chanserv. [11:44am] You changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2008-04-16:Agenda". [11:44am] murph was promoted to operator by you. [12:00pm] smorgan joined the chat room. [12:00pm] smorgan was promoted to operator by you. [12:00pm] peeja joined the chat room. [12:00pm] pinkerton joined the chat room. [12:00pm] pinkerton was promoted to operator by chanserv. [12:01pm] peeja was promoted to operator by you. [12:01pm] ardissone: let's give mento a couple [12:05pm] jeff joined the chat room. [12:05pm] jeff was promoted to operator by you. [12:06pm] ardissone: ok [12:06pm] ardissone: hopefully mento shows [12:07pm] ardissone: everyone please open your Camino 1.6RC1 or newer to http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2008-04-16:Agenda [12:07pm] ardissone: we put out the rc last Thursday and have heard nary an evil thing about it [12:08pm] ardissone: which bodes well [12:08pm] ardissone: our schedule is for releasing tomorrow [12:09pm] ardissone: there is an l10n build; i've downloaded it but haven't had a chance to play with it [12:09pm] pinkerton: this includes the crash fix from 200.14? [12:09pm] ardissone: yes [12:10pm] pinkerton: ship it [12:10pm] ardissone: 1.6rc1=1.8.1.14 [12:10pm] pinkerton: ah ok [12:10pm] pinkerton: double ship it [12:10pm] ardissone: i'd like to see if we could get it staged and get the update definition written so that marcello can test the update process in italian [12:11pm] ardissone: but the former definitely requires mento [12:12pm] ardissone: we should have 10 ML langs [12:12pm] ardissone: which is down from 1.5 [12:12pm] ardissone: but still good [12:12pm] smorgan: What did we lose? [12:12pm] ardissone: spanish should come in 1.6.1 [12:13pm] ardissone: en-GB, cs, sk, and es [12:13pm] ardissone: or, if ernesto is ready soon-ish, we could do a ML v2 again [12:14pm] ardissone: we're probably 2/3 of the way through the website overall [12:15pm] ardissone: sam'll stay up all night to finish [12:15pm] ardissone: so, basically, the release is blocked on mento and ss [12:16pm] ardissone: but we should be good [12:16pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on 1.6? [12:18pm] ardissone: 2.0 [12:18pm] ardissone: so far smorgan's been working on it [12:18pm] ardissone: he keeps generating patches [12:18pm] ardissone: which is good [12:19pm] ardissone: some of them are getting stuck in some of our queues [12:19pm] ardissone: which is not so brilliant [12:19pm] pinkerton: sorry, it's on my todo list [12:19pm] jeff: I reviewed one of his this morning [12:19pm] ardissone: cool [12:19pm] jeff: more coming later today [12:20pm] ardissone: even better [12:20pm] ardissone: as a reminder, our very rough scoping doc is http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Development:Planning:Camino_2.0 [12:21pm] pinkerton: we also need to talk at some point about another camino shin-dig at or after wwdc [12:21pm] ardissone: sam's started a page on it, too [12:21pm] ardissone: http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Camino_Meet-up:2008 [12:22pm] ardissone: i don't know if he's done more on the legwork or not [12:22pm] ardissone: maybe after releases give him his life back we can ask [12:23pm] ardissone: murph: anti-phishing update? [12:23pm] pinkerton: heh [12:23pm] murph: I have the "about:blocked" page integrated now, just working on the look of it [12:24pm] murph: i expect the feature to be ready to go in plenty of time for 2.0 [12:24pm] ardissone: awesome! [12:24pm] ardissone: and we'll see some v1 patches soon? [12:25pm] murph: yes, shouldn't be long now, and we can get a jump start on reviewing [12:25pm] ardissone: [12:25pm] murph: Google's still working out some server side issues with the v2 API [12:25pm] ardissone: i forget where we stand on the whole api key thing, though [12:25pm] ardissone: heh [12:26pm] murph: we can supply our own "client" identifier for the url-classifier to use... [12:28pm] ardissone: jeff: tabs(pose) update? [12:28pm] pinkerton: brb need food badly [12:28pm] murph: so when they actually permit other users, we'll probably want to formalize an agreement with them [12:29pm] jeff: patches coming soon, the ones that deal with disabling features when it is active [12:29pm] jeff: and *trying* to make it cool [12:30pm] ardissone: heh [12:31pm] ardissone: oh, there's one "2.0 needs action" thing I forgot [12:31pm] ardissone: i think maybe smorgan or pinkerton need to weigh in on bug 428747 [12:32pm] ardissone: and provide some "guidance" to Core [12:32pm] ardissone: if "allow all" is OK, that's apparently really easy [12:32pm] smorgan: Isn't the policy up to them? [12:32pm] ardissone: they seem to want to know what we want [12:34pm] pinkerton: i don't follow what's going on there [12:34pm] smorgan: So is the only "attack" figuring out that extensions are there? [12:34pm] ardissone: that's what i gather [12:35pm] ardissone: it's an information leak, not a security threat [12:35pm] ardissone: pinkerton: they changed things so web pages can't load chrome:// resoruces [12:35pm] ardissone: which breaks ftp listings, the error pages, and flashblock, among others [12:36pm] pinkerton: ah [12:36pm] ardissone: they fixed toolkit to make it have an "allow" exception to not break the first two there [12:36pm] ardissone: but our chrome reg only knows "deny" [12:37pm] pinkerton: ah [12:37pm] pinkerton: it feels wrong to change it to "allow" [12:37pm] pinkerton: but i don't have anything to back that up [12:37pm] ardissone: and only because i caught the build bustage and bsmedberg checked in a "deny" hack [12:38pm] pinkerton: heh [12:38pm] ardissone: allow is/was the current state [12:38pm] ardissone: before the patch [12:38pm] pinkerton: oh [12:38pm] pinkerton: but that takes a lot of work? [12:38pm] pinkerton: oh i see, that "reopens" the security hole [12:38pm] ardissone: only to make it an allow exception [12:39pm] ardissone: but yes, it reopens the info leak [12:39pm] pinkerton: can't we just move to webkit? [12:39pm] ardissone: blanket-allow is supposedly easy; allow-this-but-not-that is harder [12:39pm] ardissone: heeh [12:40pm] pinkerton: well i guess in the short term we can go back to blanket allow to fix things while we figure out what we ultimately want to do [12:40pm] pinkerton: so tot builds are more usable [12:40pm] pinkerton: we never guarantee the security of nightlies [12:40pm] smorgan: I don't really see that it's worth the effort for us [12:40pm] smorgan: People can do a version check on Camino to know if FB is installed [12:40pm] ardissone: (if they backport this to the branch, they'd have to fix our chrome reg) [12:41pm] smorgan: I don't think any real information is leaking here [12:41pm] ardissone: yeah, me either [12:41pm] pinkerton: ok [12:41pm] smorgan: So if they are okay with allow, I'm all for it [12:42pm] ardissone: i just didn't want to speak for Camino there [12:42pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on 2.0? [12:44pm] ardissone: do we know when we hear things about SoC? [12:44pm] smorgan: Monday [12:45pm] ardissone: crosses fingers [12:45pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else today? [12:47pm] ardissone: ok [12:48pm] ardissone: well, hopefully we see mento today [12:49pm] ardissone: otherwise, everyone have a good week, and get ready for a major release [12:50pm] smorgan left the chat room.