Status Meetings:2008-06-18:Log
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[02:47am] You were promoted to operator by chanserv. [02:47am] You changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2008-06-18:Agenda". [02:47am] cl|zzz was promoted to operator by you. [02:48am] delliott was promoted to operator by you. [06:04am] Simon joined the chat room. [06:56am] Simon left the chat room. (Quit: Simon) [10:15am] cl|zzz is now known as cl. [10:17am] Simon joined the chat room. [10:20am] Simon left the chat room. (Ping timeout) [11:27am] Simon joined the chat room. [11:55am] murph joined the chat room. [12:00pm] murph was promoted to operator by you. [12:00pm] mento joined the chat room. [12:00pm] mento was promoted to operator by chanserv. [12:00pm] kreeger joined the chat room. [12:01pm] ardissone: pink or smorgan? [12:01pm] kreeger was promoted to operator by you. [12:01pm] cl: oh, heh, today's wednesday [12:11pm] ardissone: ok [12:13pm] ardissone: grr [12:13pm] Simon left the chat room. (Quit: Simon) [12:13pm] ardissone: http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2008-06-18:Agenda [12:13pm] ardissone: everyone open your Camino 1.6.1 or newer to that page [12:14pm] ardissone: !summon smorgan [12:14pm] ardissone: who is working in bugzilla but not being here [12:14pm] ardissone: first up [12:14pm] ardissone: 1.6.1 about a month ago [12:15pm] ardissone: fixed ML issues in an ML respin two weeks ago [12:15pm] ardissone: lots of crashes in 1.6.1 [12:15pm] ardissone: [12:15pm] jeff joined the chat room. [12:15pm] jeff was promoted to operator by you. [12:15pm] ardissone: anyone here on/with 10.4.11? [12:15pm] delliott: Not me [12:16pm] ardissone: Embedded RealPlayer is causing lots of crashes there [12:16pm] cl: hrm, I think I do have a 10.4.x installation on my backup drive at the moment but I'm not entirely sure [12:16pm] cl: and I don't know exactly where the drive is [12:17pm] ardissone: maybe i'll just file it and see if we can find one of the bug people to repro it [12:17pm] ardissone: there are also a few comments in the libSystemB crashes noting that Camino crashed as soon as they did something in Google Desktop [12:17pm] cl: blames pinkerton [12:17pm] cl: Although you'd think if this was a common problem he would have seen it [12:18pm] ardissone: i don't know what they do to get at history, etc. [12:18pm] ardissone: grr [12:18pm] ardissone: !summon smorgan [12:18pm] ardissone: also a few crashes still in Keychain code [12:18pm] ardissone: and in ProgressViewController [12:19pm] ardissone: otherwise, most of the camino code mentioned in those catch-all stacks is pretty random [12:19pm] cl: kreeger might have an idea about the PVC stac [12:20pm] ardissone: Gecko 1.8.1.15 is frozen and supposed to go beta today [12:20pm] ardissone: release set for the 24th [12:20pm] kreeger: ping me in a few [12:20pm] ardissone: we have a bunch of things to land [12:20pm] kreeger: I have to catch a bus [12:20pm] kreeger left the chat room. (Quit: kreeger) [12:20pm] ardissone: but we're blocked on not having builds [12:21pm] cl: ardissone: I guess file that PVC stack as a bug and have kreeger look into it [12:21pm] ardissone: i'll try to get relnotes ready so we can get them to l10n [12:22pm] ardissone: everything's r/sr'ed except for the CA trust bug [12:22pm] ardissone: which we'll probably minus and renom for the next [12:23pm] ardissone: cl: are you still looking at that? [12:23pm] cl: sort of [12:23pm] cl: i might dig into it more today but I'm beginning to think it's seriously over my head [12:23pm] ardissone: ok [12:23pm] ardissone: poke others as needed [12:24pm] ardissone: knowing what patch broke it is at least a step forward [12:24pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on 1.6.x? [12:25pm] ardissone: 2.0 [12:25pm] ardissone: pretty much the same story's it's been [12:26pm] ardissone: smorgan's done some work on upgrading sparkle (blocked on andym committing his changes, last i knew) and the security UI changes [12:26pm] ardissone: murph: anti-phishing news? [12:27pm] murph: ardissone: just that I decided not to rush the reworked patch before the meet-up and will instead have it in a day or two [12:27pm] murph: I needed to introduce a way to manage different types of lists... [12:27pm] murph: and have been torn between two different approaches [12:28pm] ardissone: heh [12:29pm] ardissone: you split off the part of the patch that enables us to respond to XUL [12:29pm] murph: yep, so smorgan didn't have to wait for the phishing patch to use such behavior [12:30pm] smorgan joined the chat room. [12:30pm] smorgan was promoted to operator by you. [12:30pm] smorgan: sorry, forgot it was Wednesday [12:31pm] ardissone: there are some crashes for you in the log/agenda [12:31pm] ardissone: ok, so we'll await murph's new patch by the end of the week [12:31pm] ardissone: next up [12:31pm] ardissone: jeff! [12:32pm] ardissone: mr tabs 2008 [12:32pm] jeff: whooo! [12:32pm] jeff: I don't have much to say yet on tabs and Core Animation and Core Awesomeness [12:33pm] jeff: I'm still in CA, I have not gotten a long period of time to look deeply into it yet, but tomorrow I will spend my day looking at it and report back [12:34pm] ardissone: ok [12:34pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on 2.0 or 2.0a1? [12:35pm] ardissone: ok [12:36pm] ardissone: the meet-up was saturday, and i think a good time was had by all [12:36pm] ardissone: at the very least, jeff learned that i was a living, breathing human being [12:36pm] jeff: my whole world perspective has changed [12:37pm] ardissone: per discussion, sam will blog and post a summary sometime "soon" [12:38pm] jeff: and apparently (according to smorgan) I am grumpy all the time and cross my arms a lot [12:38pm] smorgan: wonders how he is getting the blame for that [12:39pm] jeff: need someone to blame [12:39pm] murph: did our group picture ever make it online anywhere? [12:39pm] smorgan: ss totally started it [12:39pm] ardissone: haha [12:39pm] ardissone: he's always a good one to blame [12:39pm] ardissone: murph: going to be in the blog, i think [12:39pm] murph: cool [12:39pm] ardissone: as always, we're blocked on ss [12:40pm] ardissone: tinderbox h*lll continues [12:40pm] ardissone: we have the two minis doing trunk [12:40pm] ardissone: monday sam was supposed to switch minimaya over to branch [12:40pm] ardissone: except he was up until 4am fighting bots or something [12:41pm] delliott: I agree, jeff talks into his hand [12:41pm] ardissone: cb-x1 is supposedly mostly ready for us to try to use again [12:41pm] ardissone: i don't know the details [12:41pm] ardissone: i don't know if mento knows, or only sam [12:42pm] ardissone: (that was most annoying, btw ) [12:44pm] ardissone: cl rev'd the sample pane, but it crashes branch, so he has to look at that again :P [12:45pm] ardissone: we fixed a good number of bugs over the past two weeks, but the r queue is also continuing to climb [12:45pm] ardissone: so if you have reviews targeted at you, please do look at them, and if your name is something other than smorgan, see if you can help share the load ;) [12:46pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else? [12:48pm] jeff: It was nice seeing everybody on saturday (especially the people on iChat) [12:49pm] ardissone: it was nice to barely hear everyone, too ;) [12:49pm] murph: for sure, this meeting has an entirely different perspective now that I can imagine faces instead of just names :) [12:51pm] ardissone: :) [12:51pm] jeff left the chat room. (Ping timeout) [12:51pm] ardissone: ok then [12:52pm] ardissone: everyone have a good week and enjoy the no-longer-faceless conversations :) [12:52pm] ardissone: (over how to fix bugs, of course ;) )