Status Meetings:2008-07-23:Log

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[12:00pm] You were promoted to operator by chanserv.
[12:00pm] delliott was promoted to operator by you.
[12:00pm] mento joined the chat room.
[12:00pm] mento was promoted to operator by chanserv.
[12:01pm] ardissone: wonders how the traffic is today in the valley ;)
[12:03pm] murph joined the chat room.
[12:03pm] murph was promoted to operator by you.
[12:07pm] ardissone: wonders where everyone is :(
[12:20pm] peeja joined the chat room.
[12:20pm] peeja was promoted to operator by you.
[12:21pm] murph left the chat room. (Quit: murph)
[12:21pm] ardissone: mento: are you still here, or have you headed off for lunch while we waited?
[12:21pm] murph joined the chat room.
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[12:23pm] mento: ardissone:
[12:23pm] mento: but i'm leaving for lunch in a moment
[12:23pm] ardissone: ok
[12:23pm] ardissone: let's talk 1.6.2 this afternoon with smorgan?
[12:23pm] ardissone: since our current build is 1 gecko behind...
[12:25pm] ardissone: and since this meeting is otherwise unable to do anything useful, does anyone else have any progress or anything they'd like to report?
[12:25pm] ardissone: peeja, murph, delliott ?
[12:26pm] murph: I've been working on the code to add test pages to the url-classifier db...
[12:26pm] murph: I'm kind of stuck with the browser window's key view loop again, It's fully working with the exception of reverse tabbing
[12:26pm] ardissone: that's certainly a lot of progress!
[12:27pm] ardissone: and probably worth considering taking
[12:27pm] murph: some kind of hack will eventually be the only likely solution to fix reverse tabbing, as the problem is how AppKit determines insert the toolbar
[12:27pm] murph: so, reverse tabbing does work, it just skips the toolbar
[12:27pm] ardissone: heh
[12:28pm] murph: but the toolbar is in fact integrated into the forward loop
[12:28pm] murph: at the correct spot, too
[12:28pm] peeja: weird
[12:28pm] ardissone: a fully working forward loop is a massive improvement over what we have now
[12:28pm] ardissone: peeja: ?
[12:28pm] peeja: weird that it only works one way
[12:29pm] ardissone: ah
[12:29pm] murph: yeah, if there's any focusable view outside the key view loop, it confuses the heck out of AppKit and it messes up -previousKeyView
[12:29pm] ardissone: how does a focusable view end up outside of the key view loop?
[12:30pm] murph: it's the Gecko ChildVIews...
[12:30pm] ardissone: "yay"
[12:30pm] murph: you can download a test app I made to demo the problem:
[12:30pm] murph: forward tabbing works, but try reversing :/
[12:31pm] murph: I even used a DTS incident and talked with Apple about this, since I'm trying to wrestle with "magic" AppKit Behavior...
[12:31pm] ardissone: 8O
[12:32pm] murph: and they said that when loading is complete, to recursively loop over the CHBrowserView ChildView subviews and add them into the loop
[12:32pm] murph: but the problem there is that ChildViews can be created even after the initial page load
[12:32pm] ardissone: "yay"
[12:33pm] ardissone: does gecko give us any way of knowing when we have new CVs?
[12:33pm] murph: not that I could tell...
[12:33pm] ardissone: awesome :P
[12:33pm] murph: ideally we'd just override -didAddSubview, but they're not all directly descendant from CHBrowserView
[12:34pm] murph: I also though, since we're on Tiger now, that -autorecauculatesKeyViewLoop would take care of the situation for us,
[12:34pm] murph: but that seems broken in our care and breaks the entire loop
[12:34pm] murph: s/care/case
[12:35pm] ardissone: :P
[12:37pm] ardissone: any other exciting tidbits?
[12:37pm] murph: so do you think it's reasonable to submit what I have so far, to at least get forward tabbing in a working state?
[12:37pm] ardissone: i think so, yes
[12:38pm] ardissone: it's a persistent annoyance even to people like me who don't use FKA much, so just going forward should help a huge amount
[12:38pm] ardissone: s/much/or tabbing much/
[12:39pm] ardissone: the problem will of course be getting reviewers, but we might be able to convince mento he wants to review it ;)
[12:40pm] murph: ok, I'll ready it up then :)
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[12:40pm] ardissone: great
[12:40pm] ardissone: !
[12:40pm] ardissone: anything else from you?
[12:42pm] murph: nope, that's about it :)
[12:43pm] ardissone: k
[12:43pm] ardissone: i landed the toolkit patch mon night, so we're good to go from a core/build perspective on safebrowsing
[12:44pm] ardissone: peeja, delliott, kreeger: any of you have anything?
[12:46pm] kreeger: nein
[12:47pm] ardissone: ok then
[12:47pm] ardissone: everyone have a good week
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[12:47pm] ardissone: work on some bugs or reviews
[12:47pm] ardissone: and we'll see you next week
[12:47pm] ardissone: (hopefully)
[12:48pm] ardissone: ;)