Status Meetings:2008-12-03:Agenda
Wed 03 Dec 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg
Contents
General Plans
- Camino 2.0a1
- Released six weeks ago
- Talkback broken here, too (all 2.0a1 crashes — 89 so far, were adding ≈30/week, then 3, now none; low?)
- #1 is 0xfffeff20 (6 are Bug 458961 - Core 10.4 topcrash; 4 of those are triggered by Tabsposé)
- #2 is Cocoa.12.0.0 (startup crash; TB50869706x is sample)
- #3 is Flash
- #4 is libSystem.B.dylib.111.0.0 (5 are Bug 458961 on 10.5.0b5)
- #5 is nsObjCExceptionLogAbort (2 are probably Bug 458961)
- Also, 6 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling (TB50702043x, TB50686087x, TB50604116x, TB51231297x, TB51364670x, TB51364617x)
- Camino 1.6.5
- Released two weeks ago
- Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.5 crashes — 82; increased ~80/wk, now none; is Talkback broken?)
- Hard to tell much without topcrashers, but Flash looks like #1, libSystem.B (Real, Silverlight) #2, random hex #3
- Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
- Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
- Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
- Camino 1.6.6
- Gecko release set for 16 Dec (probably Gecko 1.8.1 EOL from a practical perspective)
- Camino 2.0
- Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
- Retriaging 2.0 list; smorgan did more recently
- Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b1 and add l10n to the whiteboard
- Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - Bug 458205
- Anti-phishing - can't get permission :(
- Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones
- Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken
- Tabsposé - need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
- Tab dragging - murph eager to fix bg tab dragging and scroll dragging; do either block b1?
- Fullscreen - hendy looking at other bugs (taller tabs)
- Icon work for 2.0 - philippe working on ideas for zoom icons; Sam promised updates months ago
- breakpad - can we lock smorgan and mento in a room next weekend?
- Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work)
- Flashblock whitelist - batwood posted new patch and nib; needs reviews
- Growl - waiting on reviews of blocking bugs?
- Need to start scheduling 2.0b1
- Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
- Tinderboxen
- boxset is no longer reporting to tinderbox (again) - Bug 467190
- Currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
- had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
- cb-x1 still reporting with truncated hostname; also, starting to die again Bug 458217
- cb-minimaya running "1.6-M1.8" Ts (65 min dep)
- cb-minibinus running "2.0-M1.9" Ts (45 min dep)
- PPC minis need weekly reboots to keep running
- cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
- boxset is no longer reporting to tinderbox (again) - Bug 467190
- Dev docs
- CBSamplePane: can now build branch-compatible pane using trunk files; cl needs to address review comments
- Development:Reviewing split code style, patch preparation, etc. into Development:Coding
- need mento to verify the
scp
commands for staging
- Weekly Bugs and Queues update
- r queue increasing again, 2.* lists declining only slightly.
Specific bugs that need action
2.0b1pre
- See 2.0b1? list
- Cocoa widgets still pretty scary; there are a number of regressions we'll be stuck with
1.6.5
Other (if there's time)
- 10.5 Visual UX
- Bookmark bar - Bug 401340
- Tab bar
- Toolbar icons - Bug 384725
- We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
- App icon lines - Bug 402967
- Folders (UNCO) - Bug 436012
- cl's buglist
- Bug 175748 - Need mechanism for creating new blank bookmarks
- Bug 318931 - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on Bug 438256?)
- Bug 363664 - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"
- xpfe cleanup
- see older Agendas if you're interested
Queries
Camino 2.0b1
- Blocking ? (12) [+1 since last week]
- Blocking + (1) [unchanged]
- Blocking - (7) [+2 since last week]
Camino 2.0b2
- Blocking ? (2)
- Blocking + (0)
- Blocking - (0)
- l10n (10) [-1 since last week]
Camino 2.0
- Bugs targeted at 2.0 (25) [+1 since last week]
- Blocking ? (7) [unchanged] (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation)
- Blocking + (2) [unchanged]
- Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
- Bugs without target (664) [+5 since last week]
- Bugs fixed since last meeting (1) [-10 since last week] (0 were 2.0-targeted)
Queues
- Review (18) [+4 since last week] 2 untargeted
- Superreview (0) [-2 since last week]