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* Camino 2.0a1
 
* Camino 2.0a1
 
** Released eight weeks ago
 
** Released eight weeks ago
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM20a1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008101818&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0a1 crashes] <!-- 89 so far, were adding ≈30/week, then 3, now none; low?)
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM20a1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008101818&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0a1 crashes] — 123 so far, were adding ≈30/week, now 30 over past 3 weeks; low?)
*** #1 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|0xfffeff20}} (6 are {{bug|458961}} - Core 10.4 topcrash; 4 of those are triggered by Tabsposé)
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*** #1 <!--(28)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|0xfffeff20}} (printing, youtube, 7 are {{bug|458961}} - Core 10.4 topcrash; 4 of those are triggered by Tabsposé)
*** #2 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|Cocoa.12.0.0}} (startup crash; {{TB|50869706}} is sample)
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*** #2 <!--(19)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|Cocoa.12.0.0}} (startup crash; {{TB|50869706}} is sample)
*** #3 is Flash
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*** #3 <!--(12)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}}
*** #4 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|libSystem.B.dylib.111.0.0}} (5 are {{bug|458961}} on 10.5.0b5)
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*** #4 <!--(9)--> is Flash
*** #5 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}} (2 are probably {{bug|458961}})
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*** #5 <!--(8)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}} (5 are probably {{bug|458961}})
*** Also, 6 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|50702043}}, {{TB|50686087}}, {{TB|50604116}}, {{TB|51231297}}, {{TB|51364670}}, {{TB|51364617}}) -->)
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*** #6 <!--(8)--> Core crash-on-quit ({{bug|349463}})
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*** #7 <!--(7)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|libSystem.B.dylib.111.0.0}} (5 are {{bug|458961}} on 10.5.0b5)
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*** Also, 10 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|50702043}}, {{TB|50686087}}, {{TB|50604116}}, {{TB|51231297}}, {{TB|51364670}}, {{TB|51364617}},{{TB|51603710}} (new), {{TB|51734972}} (new), {{TB|51492114}} (new), {{TB|51491925}} (new))
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*** Crashes in the appshell - {{TB|51536447}}, {{TB|51620463}}
 
* Camino 1.6.6
 
* Camino 1.6.6
 
** Released yesterday
 
** Released yesterday
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM166/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121219&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.6 crashes] <!-- — 82; increased ~80/wk, now none; is Talkback broken?)
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM166/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121219&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.6 crashes] — 2)
*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, but Flash looks like #1, {{TBsig|16|2008111212|libSystem.B}} (Real, Silverlight) #2, random hex #3 -->)
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<!-- *** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, but Flash looks like #1, {{TBsig|16|2008111212|libSystem.B}} (Real, Silverlight) #2, random hex #3 -->
 
<!--*** #1 is Flash
 
<!--*** #1 is Flash
 
*** #2/5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libSystem.B.dylib&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008080311&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libSystem.B.dylib] - presumably a large degree are 1passwd in addition to plug-ins, although details remain illusive; bit of a spike this week
 
*** #2/5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libSystem.B.dylib&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008080311&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libSystem.B.dylib] - presumably a large degree are 1passwd in addition to plug-ins, although details remain illusive; bit of a spike this week
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*** #6 is libObjC.A.dylib - four 1passwd crashes and mostly useless stacks elsewhere
 
*** #6 is libObjC.A.dylib - four 1passwd crashes and mostly useless stacks elsewhere
 
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*** No topcrash reports yet, but aside from the usual suspects, lots of reports of crashing on startup (1passwd, initMozillaPrefs, refreshStyleSheet, -[MainController checkForProblemAddOns]() ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=48463338 TB48463338x]/[http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=48528066 TB48528066x]), -[SiteIconCache readCacheFile]() {{bug|448554}})
 
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<!--**** RealPlayer - {{bug|441736}} (bug also some Flash and Silverlight)
 
**** random bits of Camino code: 47958724 initMozillaPrefs, 48061310 refreshStyleSheet, 47710819
 
**** A number of reports mention installing or upgrading 1passwd
 
**** Some reports mention startup (initMozillaPrefs, refreshStyleSheet among others)-->
 
<!--*** #4 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/talkback/fastfind.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libobjc]-->
 
<!--**** 46765023 -[KeychainService init]() on startup, 46195237; are these just corrupt keychains?  But see also 46195236 (CoreFoundation+1passwd from same user)
 
**** 46228188 should-have-been-fixed Privacy crash on 10.3.9 (one only)-->
 
<!--*** #5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/talkback/fastfind.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=Camino&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid  Camino]
 
**** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=48319457 TB48319457x] +[NSWorkspace(CaminoDefaultBrowserAdditions) osVersionString]() - handful of these
 
--><!--*** #5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/talkback/fastfind.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=CoreFoundation&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid  CoreFoundation]
 
**** 48001978 -[SiteIconCache readCacheFile]() at startup; this is fairly common
 
**** Lots of crashes that contain the old tell-tale 1passwd signature
 
**** Dozen or so CamiTools -->
 
 
** Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
 
** Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
 
** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
 
** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
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*** Nasty UE bugs (minus them?)
 
*** Nasty UE bugs (minus them?)
 
*** Relnotes
 
*** Relnotes
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** Build end-of-week, release Tues?
 
* Tinderboxen
 
* Tinderboxen
 
** boxset - currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade {{bug|465212}} - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
 
** boxset - currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade {{bug|465212}} - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz

Latest revision as of 22:14, 16 December 2008

Wed 17 Dec 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

  • Meeting schedule
    • Are we meeting the rest of the month (Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve)?
  • Camino 2.0a1
  • Camino 1.6.6
    • Released yesterday
    • Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.6 crashes — 2)
    • Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
    • Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
    • Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
  • Camino 1.6.7
    • Officially Gecko is done, but more releases are possible
    • We didn't declare 1.6.6 EOL (no stable release yet)
    • One major bug in search plugins on 10.3 - Bug 469236
  • Camino 2.0
    • Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
      • Retriaging 2.0 list; smorgan and ardissone alternate weeks
      • Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b2 and add l10n to the whiteboard
      • Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - Bug 458205
    • Anti-phishing - can't get permission :(
    • Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones
    • Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken
    • Tabsposé - need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
    • Tab dragging - scroll dragging?
    • Fullscreen -
    • Icon work for 2.0 - philippe working on ideas for zoom icons (need decision here - Bug 450542); Sam promised updates months ago
    • breakpad - smorgan writing the reporter client
    • Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings)
    • Flashblock whitelist - Landed; thanks batwood!
    • Growl - waiting on reviews of blocking bugs?
    • What's left for 2.0b1 (blocking a build)?
      • Nasty UE bugs (minus them?)
      • Relnotes
    • Build end-of-week, release Tues?
  • Tinderboxen
    • boxset - currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
      • had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
    • What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
    • cb-x1 still reporting with truncated hostname; also, starting to die again Bug 458217
    • cb-minimaya running "1.6-M1.8" Ts (65 min dep)
    • cb-minibinus running "2.0-M1.9" Ts (45 min dep)
    • PPC minis need weekly reboots to keep running
    • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
  • Dev docs
    • CBSamplePane: can now build branch-compatible pane using trunk files; cl needs to address review comments
    • Development:Reviewing split code style, patch preparation, etc. into Development:Coding
    • need mento to verify the scp commands for staging
  • Weekly Bugs and Queues update
    • r queue still high

Specific bugs that need action

2.0b1pre

  • See 2.0b1? list
  • Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with

1.6.5

Other (if there's time)

  • cl's buglist
    • Bug 175748 - Need mechanism for creating new blank bookmarks
    • Bug 318931 - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on Bug 438256?)
    • Bug 363664 - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"
  • xpfe cleanup
    • see older Agendas if you're interested

Queries

Camino 2.0b1

Camino 2.0b2

  • l10n (7) [-2 since last week]

Camino 2.0

Queues