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* Camino 2.0b2
 
* Camino 2.0b2
 
** Released five and a half weeks ago
 
** Released five and a half weeks ago
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009022317&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b2 crashes] — 142 so far, ~20 this week [finally similar to b1 increases])
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009022317&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b2 crashes] — 186 so far, ~40 this week [higher again, but if b2 has 2x users of b1…])
*** #1 <!--(18)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}} (rise in libobjc+swizzling last week)
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*** #1 <!--(20)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}}
*** #2 <!--(13)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|Flash%20Player}}
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*** #2 <!--(15)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|Flash%20Player}}
*** #3 <!--(7)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}}
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*** #3 <!--(11)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|0xfffeff20}} (rise in this + other random hex)
*** #4 <!--(6)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SystemConfiguration.212.2.0}}
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*** #4 <!--(9)--> is Core crash-on-quit {{bug|349463}}
*** #4 <!--(6)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|0xfffeff20}}
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*** #5 <!--(8)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}}
*** #5 <!--(5)--> is Core crash-on-quit {{bug|349463}}
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*** #5 <!--(8)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}}
 
*** Lots of pairs of random Gecko
 
*** Lots of pairs of random Gecko
<!--*** #5 !--(4)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libdjHPUtils.10.2.dylib.10.2.0}} ({{TB|53536170}} involves 1P and shutdown)
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*** 5 corrupt-font-related crashes
*** #5 !--(5)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}}
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<!--*** #4 !--(6)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SystemConfiguration.212.2.0}}
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*** #5 !--(4)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libdjHPUtils.10.2.dylib.10.2.0}} ({{TB|53536170}} involves 1P and shutdown)
 
-->
 
-->
*** Swizzles: {{TB|53253501}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53259627}} [nsObjcException], {{TB|53242747}} [nsFrame::Destroy], {{TB|53250277}} [CoreFoundation], {{TB|53405594}} [libstdc++.6.dylib.7.4.0], {{TB|53513861}} [CoreFoundation] , {{TB|53443216}} [libobjc], {{TB|53554877}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53584737}} [isTextBasedContent], {{TB|53588903}} [CoreFoundation], {{TB|53629780}} [libobjc], {{TB|53582181}} [libobjc+sluggish], {{TB|53692180}} [libobjc], {{TB|53561223}} [libSystemB], {{TB|53681416}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53722431}} [Cocoa] [new], {{TB|53813806}} [Cocoa] [new], {{TB|53715259}} [libobjc] [new], {{TB|53745487}} [SystemConfiguration] [new]
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*** Swizzles: <!--{{TB|53253501}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53259627}} [nsObjcException], {{TB|53242747}} [nsFrame::Destroy], {{TB|53250277}} [CoreFoundation], {{TB|53405594}} [libstdc++.6.dylib.7.4.0], {{TB|53513861}} [CoreFoundation] , {{TB|53443216}} [libobjc], {{TB|53554877}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53584737}} [isTextBasedContent], {{TB|53588903}} [CoreFoundation], {{TB|53629780}} [libobjc], {{TB|53582181}} [libobjc+sluggish], {{TB|53692180}} [libobjc], {{TB|53561223}} [libSystemB], {{TB|53681416}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53722431}} [Cocoa], {{TB|53813806}} [Cocoa], {{TB|53715259}} [libobjc], {{TB|53745487}} [SystemConfiguration], -->{{TB|53862261}} [0xfffeff18/QT] [new], {{TB|53858034}} [0xfffeff20] [new], {{TB|53957940}} [CoreFoundation] [new], {{TB|53934959}} [CoreFoundation] [new], {{TB|53919637}} [Cocoa] [new], {{TB|53880688}} [libSystem.B] [new]
 
<!--
 
<!--
 
*** Also, OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|51979682}}, {{TB|51970202}}, {{TB|52185198}}, {{TB|52293795}}, {{TB|52430931}}, {{TB|52529031}}, {{TB|52541896}}, {{TB|52761804}}, {{TB|52688239}} [AB] {{TB|52749126}} [AB], {{TB|52877218}}, {{TB|52856409}} [RolloverImageButton], {{TB|52846948}} [AB], {{TB|52899423}}, {{TB|53031023}} [AB] [new])-->
 
*** Also, OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|51979682}}, {{TB|51970202}}, {{TB|52185198}}, {{TB|52293795}}, {{TB|52430931}}, {{TB|52529031}}, {{TB|52541896}}, {{TB|52761804}}, {{TB|52688239}} [AB] {{TB|52749126}} [AB], {{TB|52877218}}, {{TB|52856409}} [RolloverImageButton], {{TB|52846948}} [AB], {{TB|52899423}}, {{TB|53031023}} [AB] [new])-->
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** Released last week
 
** Released last week
 
<!--** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary-->
 
<!--** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary-->
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM167/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009032711&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.7 crashes] — 4 already<!--; that's on par with 1.6.x series, though 1.6.5 was much less crashy-->)
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM167/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009032711&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.7 crashes] — 262 already<!--; that's on par with 1.6.x series, though 1.6.5 was much less crashy-->)
*** 1 each of libobjc, CoreGraphics, QuickTimeComponents, and random hex
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<!--*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 2597-->
<!--*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 2597
 
 
*** #1 is Flash
 
*** #1 is Flash
*** #2 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|libSystem.B}}
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*** #2 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|CoreFoundation}} (many with comments are plugins)
*** #3 is Core crash-on-quit ({{bug|349463}})
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*** #3 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|libSystem.B}}
*** #4 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|CHBrowserView%20contentViewer}} (1Password-related; see {{bug|471681}})
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*** #3 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|libObjC.A.dylib}}
*** #5 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|CoreFoundation}}
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*** 91 random hex
*** #6 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|libObjC.A.dylib}}
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** 4 in {{TBsig|16|2009032711|AE.312}} where 1Password is the next frame; at least 1 ({{TB|53894194}}) additional CF crash with 1P *and* CamiTools :P
*** 100s of random hex (many are plugins)-->
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** CF+SiteIcon+bookmarks: {{TB|53924999}}
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<!--*** #3 is Core crash-on-quit ({{bug|349463}})-->
 
** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
 
** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
 
** Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
 
** Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
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** Tab dragging - new bugs reported against 10.4, scroll dragging, perf patch?
 
** Tab dragging - new bugs reported against 10.4, scroll dragging, perf patch?
 
** breakpad - smorgan working on hookup, upstreaming, etc.
 
** breakpad - smorgan working on hookup, upstreaming, etc.
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*** Can we scrape Console, too?
 
** UTF-8 - bookmarks manager needs new patch, then autocompletion typing
 
** UTF-8 - bookmarks manager needs new patch, then autocompletion typing
 
** Flashblock CM - awaiting sr
 
** Flashblock CM - awaiting sr

Latest revision as of 22:37, 7 April 2009

Wed 8 Apr 9am PDT (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

  • Camino 2.0b2
  • Camino 1.6.7
    • Released last week
    • Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.7 crashes — 262 already)
    • 4 in AE.312 where 1Password is the next frame; at least 1 (TB53894194x) additional CF crash with 1P *and* CamiTools :P
    • CF+SiteIcon+bookmarks: TB53924999x
    • Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
    • Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
  • Camino 1.6.8
    • Nothing yet
  • Summer of Code 2009
    • Student applications closed last week; results announced 20 Apr (2 Mondays hence)
  • Camino 2.0
    • Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
      • Need to retriage 2.0 list (and blocking? list) again soon
      • Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b3 and add l10n to the whiteboard
      • Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - Bug 458205
        • Key handling order changed right after b2 to let Camino menus have first crack; we need to make sure there are no unexpected regressions
    • Anti-phishing - Bug 476543 Ts regression all over (10% on minus); lots of follow-ups
    • Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - Bug 470159
    • Security exceptions - critical follow-up (show/edit exceptions) hackaround r?hendy
    • Tabsposé - NSControl, need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
    • Tab dragging - new bugs reported against 10.4, scroll dragging, perf patch?
    • breakpad - smorgan working on hookup, upstreaming, etc.
      • Can we scrape Console, too?
    • UTF-8 - bookmarks manager needs new patch, then autocompletion typing
    • Flashblock CM - awaiting sr
    • Downloading -
    • Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings)
    • Icon work for 2.0 - Sam promised updates months ago
    • CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews (needs reviewer)
  • Tinderboxen
    • TREE CLOSED until boxset is running again - Sam moved a couple weeks ago
    • boxset - missing from tinderbox yet again Bug 479999
      • currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
      • had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
    • What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
    • cb-x1 starting to die again Bug 458217
      • kernel panic Valentine's weekend[1]
  • Weekly Bugs and Queues update
    • Not much movement in the past week

Specific bugs that need action

2.0b3pre

  • See 2.0b3? list
  • Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with

1.6.8

Other (if there's time)

  • 10.5 Visual UX
  • xpfe cleanup
    • see older Agendas if you're interested

Queries

Camino 2.0b3

  • l10n (18) [unchanged]

Camino 2.0

Queues