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Sardisson: ugh
2009-08-26T05:50:57Z
<p>ugh</p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*** No Talkback reports in the last two weeks</ins></div></td></tr>
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Sardisson
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Sardisson: /* General Plans */ b3 crashes
2009-08-26T05:41:53Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">General Plans: </span> b3 crashes</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** Released twelve weeks ago Thursday</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** Released twelve weeks ago Thursday</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*** #5 <!--8</ins>-->is {{BPsig|2.0b3|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort%20%7c%20nsAppShell::ProcessNextNativeEvent(int)}} (<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">3</ins>%)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*** #5 <!--8--> is JEP on 10.6 (possibly fixed in current JEP) (3%)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*** #5 <!--8--> is JEP on 10.6 (possibly fixed in current JEP) (3%)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*** #6 <!--4--> is Flash+Exposé {{bug|465178}} </del>({{BPsig|2.0b3|-%5bNSWindow%20makeKeyWindow%5d}}) (2%)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>({{BPsig|2.0b3|-%5bNSWindow%20makeKeyWindow%5d}}) (2%)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*** Lots of misc signatures <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">(more Cocoa, especially appshell-related, filepicker, key/mouse events)</del>; more widely varied this week</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*** Keychain: {{bp|4dcc91bf-069f-4402-9fbc-a0e0a2090813}}</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*** Tab dragging?: {{BPsig|2.0b3|_class_getMethodNoSuper}}</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*** Lots of misc signatures; more widely varied this week</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*** First crash with UnifyCamino</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*** First(?) OnePassword crash</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*** First crash with CamiNoScript (cl was to contact Raphael): ({{bp|52aa4c63-e7ac-418f-97b1-1dcec2090718}})</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*** First crash with CamiNoScript (cl was to contact Raphael): ({{bp|52aa4c63-e7ac-418f-97b1-1dcec2090718}})</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Camino 2.0b4</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Camino 2.0b4</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l21" >Line 21:</td>
<td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 26:</td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Camino 1.6.8</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Camino 1.6.8</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** Released ten weeks ago Monday</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** Released ten weeks ago Monday</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM168/index.html Talkback] is broken; ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009061519&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.8 crashes] <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><!-- </del>— 1867 so far, ~ +247 last week [bit lower than average]-->)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM168/index.html Talkback] is broken; ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009061519&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.8 crashes] — 1867 so far, ~ +247 last week [bit lower than average]<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><!-- </ins>-->)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*** #1 Flash is 26% of all 1.6.8 crashes so far (down from 33% peak)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*** #1 Flash is 26% of all 1.6.8 crashes so far (down from 33% peak)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*** #2 {{TBsig|Camino16|2009061519|libobjc}} </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*** #2 {{TBsig|Camino16|2009061519|libobjc}} </div></td></tr>
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2009-08-26T05:08:52Z
<p>q&q</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>Wed 26 August 9am PDT (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg<br />
<br />
==General Plans==<br />
* Camino 2.0b3<br />
** Released twelve weeks ago Thursday<br />
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/query/query?do_query=1&product=Camino&version=Camino%3A2.0b3&platform=mac&date=&range_value=2&range_unit=weeks&query_search=signature&query_type=exact&query= Breakpad] pseudo-topcrash report for the last 2 weeks <!-- - 234 (down from last week's number, which means slightly fewer in the past week) --><br />
*** #1 <!--69--> is various other Flash-related crashes; Flash 10.0.32.18 should fix the {{BPsig|2.0b3|CFReadStreamGetStatus}} crash (25%)<br />
*** #2 <!--38--> is {{BPsig|2.0b3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (16%, down from 27%)<br />
*** #3 <!--16--> is {{BPsig|2.0b3|_objc_error}}/{{BPsig|2.0b3|_objc_trap}}/{{BPsig|2.0b3|libobjc.A.dylib@0xeca0}} (7%)<br />
*** #4 <!--14-->is {{BPsig|2.0b3|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort%20%7c%20nsAppShell::ProcessNextNativeEvent(int)}} (6%)<br />
*** #5 <!--8--> is JEP on 10.6 (possibly fixed in current JEP) (3%)<br />
*** #6 <!--4--> is Flash+Exposé {{bug|465178}} ({{BPsig|2.0b3|-%5bNSWindow%20makeKeyWindow%5d}}) (2%)<br />
*** Lots of misc signatures (more Cocoa, especially appshell-related, filepicker, key/mouse events); more widely varied this week<br />
*** First crash with CamiNoScript (cl was to contact Raphael): ({{bp|52aa4c63-e7ac-418f-97b1-1dcec2090718}})<br />
* Camino 2.0b4<br />
** Today is scheduled code freeze<br />
*** Zoom<br />
*** UTF-8<br />
*** Breakpad URLs not a blocker, but good to have in final beta?)<br />
*** l10n-related changes, including removing unused Gecko strings<br />
* Camino 1.6.8<br />
** Released ten weeks ago Monday<br />
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM168/index.html Talkback] is broken; ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009061519&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.8 crashes] <!-- — 1867 so far, ~ +247 last week [bit lower than average]-->)<br />
*** #1 Flash is 26% of all 1.6.8 crashes so far (down from 33% peak)<br />
*** #2 {{TBsig|Camino16|2009061519|libobjc}} <br />
*** #3 {{TBsig|Camino16|2009061519|CoreFoundation}} <br />
*** #4 {{TBsig|Camino16|2009061519|libSystem.B}}<br />
*** #5 {{TBsig|Camino16|2009061519|nsObjectFrame::NotifyContentObjectWrapper}}<br />
** Common comments: Flash logging out of Yahoo! Mail, CF loading nytimes.com, espn.com<br />
* [[Releases:1.6.9:Links|Camino 1.6.9]]<br />
** Releasing today <br />
* [[Development:Summer of Code 2009|Summer of Code 2009]]<br />
** Program ended two weeks ago Friday<br />
* Camino 2.0<br />
** Anti-phishing - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=358299&hide_resolved=1 follow-ups decreasing] (8)<br />
** Keyboard loop - spawned about half-dozen new bugs; possibly a new crasher - {{bug|470159}}<br />
** Cocoa Widgets key blackhole - <br />
** [http://tinyurl.com/qbyt76 Tabsposé] - <br />
** breakpad - {{bug|489123}} for follow-ups<br />
** Fonts tab - Need to check out hendy's resize code, but current pane is shippable<br />
** UTF-8 - <br />
** Zoom - <br />
** Downloading - <br />
** Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see [[User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings]])<br />
** 10.5 UI<br />
*** Bookmark/tab bar<br />
**** Divider line {{bug|508508}} - need feedback from ss, smorgan<br />
**** need to watch for 10.4 feedback<br />
*** Folders - still debating "up" for dirListing<br />
*** Icon work for 2.0 - Sam promised updates months ago on Downloads window<br />
** CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews<br />
* Tinderboxen<br />
** boxset<br />
*** offline (again) due to power outage at Sam's<br />
*** missing from tinderbox yet again {{bug|479999}}<br />
*** currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade {{bug|465212}} - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz<br />
** cb-minibinus01 switched over to boxset-like config to be a temporary replacement; running Ts and Tdhtml<br />
*** would like to get Tp working before switching back to normal config (need more static/PPC coverage)<br />
** What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair<br />
** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM<br />
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update<br />
** Queues are at an OK level, bug not much bug movement over the past few weeks<br />
<br />
==Specific bugs that need action==<br />
<br />
* See “Camino 2.0” section above<br />
<br />
===Other (if there's time)===<br />
<br />
* 10.5 Visual UX<br />
** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}<br />
*** We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam<br />
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}<br />
* UNCOs<br />
** {{Bug|467851}} - Floating Tab Previews<br />
** {{Bug|468262}} - Use grabbed hand cursor during tab dragging<br />
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration<br />
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page<br />
** {{Bug|391684}} - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user<br />
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems<br />
** {{Bug|286280}} - provide mechanism for resizing <select> lists<br />
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)<br />
** {{Bug|381295}} - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context<br />
<br />
==Queries==<br />
<br />
===Camino 2.0b4===<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b4%3F Blocking ?] (5) {{greyText|[-2 since two weeks ago]}} <!-- (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk --><br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b4%2B Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but this is misleading since zoom and UTF-8 are not in feature-complete shape, and since doing *something* with the each of the l10n bugs below also blocks b4) <!-- subtract FIXED here--><br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b4- Blocking -] (2) {{greyText|[+1 since two weeks ago]}} <!-- --><br />
<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=l10n&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b4%3F&field0-0-1=flagtypes.name&type0-0-1=equals&value0-0-1=camino2.0b4%2B&field0-0-2=flagtypes.name&type0-0-2=equals&value0-0-2=camino2.0%3F&field0-0-3=flagtypes.name&type0-0-3=equals&value0-0-3=camino2.0%2B&field0-0-4=target_milestone&type0-0-4=equals&value0-0-4=Camino2.0 l10n] ('''7''') {{greyText|[-3 since two weeks ago]}} <!-- --><br />
<br />
===Camino 2.0===<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.0] (15) {{greyText|[-3 since two weeks ago]}} <!-- --><br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%3F Blocking ?] (14) {{greyText|[+1 since two weeks ago]}} (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation) <!-- (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk --><br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%2B Blocking +] (4) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) subtract FIXED here--><br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- --><br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (689) {{greyText|['''+3''' since two weeks ago]}}''' need <!--to keep on top-->another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCO'''<br />
<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2009-08-12&chfieldto=2009-08-26&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''5''') {{greyText|[-3]}} ('''3''' were 2.0-targeted; 2 were 1.6.x<!--1 was ad-blocking, 1 was website,-->)<br />
<br />
==Queues==<br />
<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (7) {{greyText|[+2 since two weeks ago]}} <!--'''1 untargeted''' --><br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] (1) {{greyText|[-2 since two weeks ago]}} <!-- --></div>
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