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[12:04pm] ardissone|foraging: fearless leader or no?<br />
[12:06pm] smorgan: yep<br />
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[12:11pm] ardissone|foraging: ok<br />
[12:11pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone open http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-11-04:Agenda in your 2.0rc or nwere<br />
[12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: our current target is tomorrow<br />
[12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: provided we get some good news from ss today<br />
[12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: but good news from sam has been hard to come by recently <br />
[12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: l10n status is finally good<br />
[12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: should be shipping 12, plus 2 more in 2.0.1<br />
[12:15pm] ardissone|foraging: pinolo and i did a lot of fixing the past few days to speed up the process<br />
[12:15pm] smorgan: What does "new but no progress" (gl, he) mean?<br />
[12:16pm] Pinolo: smorgan: someone started working (or at least announced)<br />
[12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: someone announced they were doing a translation, but we've heard nothing since then <br />
[12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: the hebrew guy is from the forum (halekari?)<br />
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: galician posted to the list around the time we added Catalan to 1.6; i expect nothing ever happened<br />
[12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: anyway, i expect to give the l10n build a "ship it!" this afternoon <br />
[12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: i'm done with everything on the website except the blog post and swupdate, which i'll do tonight<br />
[12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: and privacy <br />
[12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: smorgan: can you look at that latest draft today?<br />
[12:20pm] smorgan: yes<br />
[12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: features and home are part of the redesign, so that's in sam's corner<br />
[12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: and press screenshots and a couple other things<br />
[12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: but ultimately it all comes down to the cert<br />
[12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: and last i heard was not good <br />
[12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: on the crashing front<br />
[12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: the good news is the crashes we expected to be fixed seem to be<br />
[12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: (SmartScroll, Flash+Exposé)<br />
[12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: Flash hanging out at 28% of crahes<br />
[12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: then we have this 10.6.1/filepicker/Finder crash<br />
[12:25pm] smorgan: That's the OS<br />
[12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: (yes, smichaud, i checked, and all those CFRelease crashes actually belong)<br />
[12:26pm] smorgan: Haha<br />
[12:26pm] smorgan: It's not just Camino<br />
[12:26pm] smorgan: That code was terrible in 10.6.0, and is still apparently troubled in 10.6.1<br />
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: someone tell smichaud to stop investigating and fix actual Gecko bugs <br />
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: yeah<br />
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: hoping for good news in 10.6.2<br />
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: so smichaud will stop tilting at windmills<br />
[12:27pm] ardissone|foraging: #3 is the black cloud hovering over smorgan and pinkerton <br />
[12:27pm] ardissone|foraging: note that it's only 6% of crashes <br />
[12:27pm] smorgan: I still think it's probably a core bug<br />
[12:27pm] smorgan: ("bug")<br />
[12:28pm] ardissone|foraging: but apparently people aren't reading the startup message <br />
[12:28pm] ardissone|foraging: after that we have less interesting things<br />
[12:28pm] ardissone|foraging: generic Gecko crash<br />
[12:29pm] ardissone|foraging: something in the OS related to the appshell/runloop<br />
[12:29pm] smorgan: The good news is 2.1 won't have the GD crash<br />
[12:29pm] ardissone|foraging: Cm2.1? GD 2.1?<br />
[12:29pm] smorgan: Camino 2.1<br />
[12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: well, ship it already! <br />
[12:30pm] smorgan: I hear we need a cert first<br />
[12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: finally, the 10.6 startup font crash<br />
[12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: so, crash-wise, nothing looks unusual or too bad<br />
[12:31pm] ardissone|foraging: the JS_CallTracer is worrisome, but it's currently a series of topccrashers on newer branches and they have no clue<br />
[12:31pm] ardissone|foraging: so hopefully it won't get too bad <br />
[12:32pm] ardissone|foraging: anything else on 2.0?<br />
[12:32pm] Pinolo: mmm, what about the search in help menu?<br />
[12:32pm] ardissone|foraging: stuart's going to look at that for 2.0.1<br />
[12:34pm] ardissone|foraging: ok, on 1.6.10<br />
[12:34pm] ardissone|foraging: crashes really dropped this week<br />
[12:35pm] ardissone|foraging: i hope it's because everyone is trying out 2.0rc<br />
[12:35pm] ardissone|foraging: or the fact Talkback wasn't accepting crashes over the weekend when i crashed<br />
[12:35pm] pinkerton: maybe i should send in the request to use the "universal" logo for camino2<br />
[12:35pm] pinkerton: do we use that anywhere?<br />
[12:35pm] ardissone|foraging: yes<br />
[12:35pm] pinkerton: ok, i'll try to do that then<br />
[12:36pm] ardissone|foraging: currently, on home<br />
[12:36pm] pinkerton: like apple cares<br />
[12:36pm] ardissone|foraging: heh<br />
[12:36pm] smorgan: It's also not clear how much longer it's worth displaying<br />
[12:37pm] pinkerton: what's ppc?<br />
[12:37pm] smorgan: Do we think people are actually looking for it the way they did back during the height of the transition?<br />
[12:37pm] pinkerton: oddly, i've found a few things (conversation) still aren't universal<br />
[12:37pm] ardissone|foraging: there are more things intel-only these days<br />
[12:38pm] ardissone|foraging: so ppc users might find it comforting <br />
[12:38pm] ardissone|foraging: that they can run it, unlike some other browsers we know <br />
[12:38pm] smorgan: Could be; at some point it's not worth the footprint of the logo though<br />
[12:38pm] ardissone|foraging: certainly<br />
[12:38pm] pinkerton: though if they're still on ppc, will they know what the universal logo even means?<br />
[12:38pm] ardissone|foraging: but let's renew our right to use it for 2.0 and cross that bridge later <br />
[12:39pm] pinkerton: ok<br />
[12:39pm] pinkerton: i'll get on that at some point here<br />
[12:39pm] ardissone|foraging:<br />
[12:39pm] ardissone|foraging: the crashes in 1.6.10 are nothing out-of-the-ordinary<br />
[12:40pm] ardissone|foraging: i didn't even drill down last night, though<br />
[12:40pm] ardissone|foraging: on 1.6.11, we've landed about half the bugs<br />
[12:41pm] smorgan: Do with think 1.6.11 is provisionally the last?<br />
[12:41pm] ardissone|foraging: there are some nominations of little fixed bugs, plus the crash and the 10.6 Help search field that would need patches<br />
[12:41pm] ardissone|foraging: yes, probably<br />
[12:41pm] ardissone|foraging: i'm not sure what the Gecko schedule is like<br />
[12:42pm] ardissone|foraging: but i don't want to keep going another six months after Tb3 finally ships<br />
[12:43pm] ardissone|foraging: i'll poke sam when we get closer to see what the Gecko schedule is like<br />
[12:43pm] ardissone|foraging: (for future 1.8.1.x)<br />
[12:44pm] ardissone|foraging: anything else on 1.6.x?<br />
[12:46pm] ardissone|foraging: on 2.1, we've been landing a couple of minor fixes here and there<br />
[12:46pm] ardissone|foraging: er<br />
[12:46pm] ardissone|foraging: nm<br />
[12:46pm] ardissone|foraging: nothing new while we've been heads-down in 2.0<br />
[12:47pm] ardissone|foraging: 2.0.1 has 8 nominations already<br />
[12:47pm] ardissone|foraging: mostly little stuff, other than fixing the error pages<br />
[12:47pm] ardissone|foraging: (they really do suck in l10ns; they're very bizarrely half-and-half)<br />
[12:48pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else on 2.0.1 or 2.1?<br />
[12:49pm] pinkerton: universal logo license agreement for 2.0 goes in the mail tomorrow<br />
[12:49pm] ardissone|foraging: :)<br />
[12:51pm] ardissone|foraging: jeff is back, or back-ish; he had been in the hospital :(<br />
[12:51pm] pinkerton: eeeeek<br />
[12:52pm] ardissone|foraging: he said he'd get back on NSControl<br />
[12:52pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else today about anything else?<br />
[12:54pm] ardissone|foraging: ok then<br />
[12:54pm] ardissone|foraging: finders crossed for a release tomorrow<br />
[12:55pm] ardissone|foraging: finders crossed for getting a cert, i suppose i should say<br />
[12:55pm] smorgan: is often made cross by the Finder<br />
[12:56pm] ardissone|foraging: heh<br />
[12:56pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone have a good week and work on 2.0.1 bugs and think about items for 2.1 :)</pre></div>
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