Status Meetings:2010-09-29:Log

Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-09-29 15:19:07 -0400

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16:14	ardissone:	cl: want to have a meeting? :P
16:16	cl:	sure, anything to talk about?
16:16	cl:	should probably look at the agenda :-p
16:16	ardissone:	oh, i can ask you about the Address Book crashes
16:16	ardissone:	http://tinyurl.com/2cc7fhx
16:17	ardissone:	i think it's probably all one guy
16:18	ardissone:	was wondering how Address Book can crash us, but I guess that's AddressBook.framework, not .app
16:18	cl:	looking
16:19	cl:	do we have any idea what "tyui" means? :-p
16:19	ardissone:	gibberish?
16:19	ardissone:	they're all startup crashes
16:19	cl:	oh, hrm, those letters are all in order on the keyboard, huh?
16:20	ardissone:	mhm
16:20	cl:	i agree with your theory of gibberish.
16:20	cl:	yeah, my guess is the framework is crashing and this guy either has a corrupted address book or a corrupted OS
16:21	cl:	because that's dying LOOOOONG after we pass off code to the framework
16:21	ardissone:	mhm
16:21	ardissone:	you know, it would really be nice if Apple could figure out a way to prevent crashes from crossing framework boundaries :P
16:21	cl:	and i sort of doubt there's anything we can do to protect against it
16:21	cl:	do we have an e-mail for him?
16:22	ardissone:	lemme try to see
16:22	cl:	would i be correct in guessing that all five of these crashes are basically the same?
16:22	ardissone:	y
16:22	cl:	at least we've got full symbols on the AB framework
16:22	ardissone:	nope, no email
16:22	cl:	might not hurt to file a radar on this
16:22	cl:	shoot
16:23	ardissone:	yeah, if we had a clue what was happening :(
16:23	ardissone:	and had the objc selector messages that the Apple crash reports provide :/
16:24	ardissone:	let's see
16:24	ardissone:	you were here last night for the focus bugs
16:24	ardissone:	and for ilya volunteering to help with reviews
16:25	cl:	yeah, i caught all that in scrollback at 4 this morning
16:25	ardissone:	so if you get a second one from cpeterso, feel free to hand it off to ilya
16:25	cl:	k, i'm gonna try to get caught up on that tomorrow
16:26	ardissone:	he cancelled that second patch because it's buggy
16:26	cl:	i'm working sat/sun and then again tues-fri
16:26	cl:	yeah, saw that
16:27	ardissone:	slow week
16:27	cl:	mhm
16:27	ardissone:	we got nathan bailey applying patches right
16:28	cl:	saw that, too :)
16:28	ardissone:	phiw's been working on tracking down possible regression ranges for these focus bugs
16:28	cl:	(I was there, remember? ;)
16:28	ardissone:	yes
16:28	cl:	yeah, looks like he found one for the nasty one, whcih is good
16:28	ardissone:	but not all log readers were ;)
16:28	ardissone:	oh, he did
16:28	ardissone:	?
16:28	ardissone:	i missed that :(
16:29	ardissone:	i've mostly been working on the Gecko stuff that will let us get our changeset in about:buildconfig
16:29	cl:	Yeah, this afternoon, I think
16:29	ardissone:	and fixing about:buildconfig on the trunk :P
16:29	ardissone:	yay
16:30	cl:	yeah, the checkin for bug 563321
16:30	ardissone:	oh :(
16:31	ardissone:	that's not good
16:31	ardissone:	that means we really need a gecko fix :/
16:31	ardissone:	which is not going to happen with everyone underwater on fx4 blockers :(
16:32	cl:	yeah, looks that way
16:32	ardissone:	suck suck
16:33	cl:	the good news is at least we know a workaround :-p
16:33	ardissone:	:P
16:33	cl:	and it doesn't happen on all form fields, just some of them :-p
16:33	ardissone:	which makes it all the more confusing to users
16:34	ardissone:	!clone smorgan
16:34	ardissone:	!clone pink
16:34	ardissone:	!clone mento!
16:34	ardissone:	anyway, that's all i've go
16:35	ardissone:	*t
16:35	cl:	!clone neil-and-smaug
16:35	ardissone:	that, too
16:35	ardissone:	crahes are holding lower again this week
16:35	ardissone:	but given that 80% of the 2.1a1pre crahes are missing
16:35	ardissone:	i'm not sure I can trust the 2.0.4 numbers
16:38	ardissone:	anyway, that's it for this week
16:38	ardissone:	reviews, reviews, patches! ;)
16:38	ardissone:	:P
16:40	cl:	good job, meeting team
16:40	cl:	high-fives ardissone
16:41	ardissone:	high-fives cl back :P
16:41	ardissone:	now, where are those meeting-cheerleaders to end in a rah-rah-rah?