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<p><b>New page</b></p><div>==Log from #camino-mtg starting 2011-01-05 16:00:46 -0500==<br />
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| id="16:00" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:00 || || style="color: #555;" | » ardissone changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2011-01-05:Agenda".<br />
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| id="16:01" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:01 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || any pink?<br />
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| id="16:02" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:02 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || moof<br />
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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || it looks like it's just us today :P<br />
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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2011-01-05:Agenda<br />
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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || yay, we made it to 2011<br />
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| id="16:05" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:05 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || on 2.0.6 crashes, good news/bad news<br />
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| id="16:05" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:05 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || Flash 10.0 dwindling, Flash 10.1 up<br />
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| id="16:06" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:06 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || KBL crash dropped way down, but new ATSUI font enumeration crash jumped to the top spot<br />
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| id="16:06" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:06 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || the former was conceivably fixable, the latter is likely not :(<br />
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| id="16:07" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:07 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || we had two new LastPass-related BWC tabView:didSelectTabViewItem crashes this period, but no emails<br />
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| id="16:08" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:08 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || smorgan: did the lastpass people give you any sense of when/if they might release a fix?<br />
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| id="16:08" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:08 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || I forget; I'd have to dig up the email<br />
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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ok<br />
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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Does it autoupdate, or are we at the mercy of users?<br />
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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i have no idea<br />
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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || luckily it seems to be a pretty low-grade crash :)<br />
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| id="16:10" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:10 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || how are our flash stats lately?<br />
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| id="16:10" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:10 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Just looking that up now... 2.0 for yesterday is 78% latest, 6% latest-1<br />
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| id="16:11" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:11 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || that seems down a bit, I think?<br />
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| id="16:11" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:11 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || 2.0.6 is 86% latest, 4% latest-1<br />
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| id="16:11" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:11 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || oh, maybe I was remembering those numbers<br />
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || 2.0.6 is about the same as 2 weeks ago, 2.0 is better<br />
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ok<br />
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || :)<br />
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || (2.0 was 73/10)<br />
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || well, at least we can get them to update their Flash, if not their Camino :P<br />
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || moof<br />
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| id="16:13" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:13 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || that's really all I have on crashes and 2.0.6; pretty much everything's out of our control<br />
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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || when i get a chance I'll see if I can see what happened to KBL<br />
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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || maybe all those users left :(<br />
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| id="16:15" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:15 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i didn't get to stats last night because I spent 6hrs resurrecting cb-x1 instead :P<br />
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| id="16:16" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:16 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || but, on the other hand, we have working 10.4 tinderbox and 2.0.x nightlies :D<br />
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| id="16:16" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:16 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || for the first time in over a month<br />
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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || I don't think there's really anything else new for 2.0.7, either<br />
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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anyone else have anything for 2.0.x?<br />
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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || On to 2.1, then<br />
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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || ship it!<br />
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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || stuart and pink gave us new year's presents of patches and reviews!<br />
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || and, you know, a working location bar :D<br />
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || which is really awesome<br />
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | pinkerton: || i still have 1 in my q<br />
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || yes, we're sneaky that way ;)<br />
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| id="16:20" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:20 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || when you empty it, we start filling it again<br />
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| id="16:20" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:20 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i, on the other hand, had a largely Camino-free last several weeks<br />
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| id="16:20" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:20 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i did look into FAYT again<br />
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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || the status is that on 1.9.1 where we initially disabled it, it needed a 2-line deCOM change to build<br />
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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || on 1.9.2, it needs that plus some FocusManager love<br />
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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || I saw that go by; if it's down to just FM I can take a look<br />
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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || to build; maybe more FM love to work<br />
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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || yeah, all the errors I got were FM-change-related<br />
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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || the comment in the bug should be self-explanatory<br />
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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || hopes<br />
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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || in terms of a1<br />
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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || we have the other half of gestures, and no response from murph in some time<br />
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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || and the other bug where the testcase is gone<br />
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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || I'd be okay shipping a1 without zoom and getting it back later<br />
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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || But maybe that's because I don't use it :)<br />
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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ok<br />
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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || heh<br />
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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || has a gestureless Mac, so…<br />
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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || let's minus those two<br />
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| id="16:26" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:26 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || also release notes, which will take a bit to work up, because at some point i got distracted by other work and stopped keeping a running log<br />
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| id="16:26" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:26 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || also, need to figure out how minibranching/tagging work in hg<br />
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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || and get by-tag support working in madhatter<br />
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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || so we can't freeze and ship today<br />
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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || or even this week<br />
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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || hopefully by end-of-next-week, time permitting<br />
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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Well, we'll take what we get before then, but not hold for anything else<br />
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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || right<br />
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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || and it will give the focus and autocomplete changes some more time to shake out<br />
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| id="16:29" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:29 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || hendy was planning on coming back after the new year; not sure if anyone's seen him<br />
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| id="16:30" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:30 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || the r queue is still a problem; ilya, hendy, and smorgan all have 2 patches waiting<br />
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| id="16:30" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:30 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || I'm hoping to get to mine soon<br />
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| id="16:30" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:30 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ok :)<br />
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| id="16:30" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:30 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Now that I'm back from vacation and not blocking a1<br />
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| id="16:30" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:30 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || :)<br />
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| id="16:31" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:31 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i haven't seen ilya around since i've been back, so i'll try to ping him<br />
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| id="16:33" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:33 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || I'm hoping we'll see cpeterso again soon and he'll take care of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613833 since that's pretty noticeable now that we're using the right (bolder) color<br />
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| id="16:34" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:34 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || and i still have some patches in flight, but i've forgotten most of what i figured out for them, so i probably won't get back to them until after we have a1<br />
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| id="16:34" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:34 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || unless i really need a break from perl :P<br />
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| id="16:35" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:35 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || someone posted in the forum today about learning Cocoa/Obj-C and helping with development<br />
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| id="16:35" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:35 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || I posted a hopefully-encouraging reply<br />
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| id="16:36" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:36 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || let's see<br />
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| id="16:36" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:36 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || talked cb-x1 already<br />
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| id="16:37" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:37 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || still a couple of open server-migration bugs because I keep finding new things :P<br />
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| id="16:37" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:37 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || but otherwise the new server has been, knock on wood, very happy since sam's friend tweaked things :)<br />
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| id="16:38" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:38 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anyone have anything else today?<br />
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| id="16:40" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:40 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ok then<br />
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| id="16:41" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:41 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || everyone work on those 2.1/a1 bugs/reviews and have a good rest of the first week of the new year :D<br />
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