Status Meetings:2011-03-23:Log
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Log from #camino-mtg starting 2011-03-23 16:00:28 -0400
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16:00 | » ardissone was promoted to operator by ChanServ. | |
16:01 | » ardissone changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2011-03-23:Agenda". | |
16:02 | » ilya joined the chat room. | |
16:07 | » ilya was promoted to operator by ardissone. | |
16:07 | ardissone: | ilya: any idea where smorgan is? |
16:09 | ilya: | not sure |
16:09 | ilya: | looks like he might be in a meeting that went late |
16:09 | ardissone: | k |
16:09 | » smorgan joined the chat room. | |
16:09 | ardissone: | any pink? |
16:09 | ardissone: | haha |
16:10 | ardissone: | smorgan: you here, or crashed? |
16:10 | » smorgan was promoted to operator by ardissone. | |
16:10 | smorgan: | Here; sorry, meeting ran late |
16:10 | » sauron joined the chat room. | |
16:10 | » sauron was promoted to operator by ChanServ. | |
16:10 | smorgan: | just pinged pink; dunno if he'll be coming |
16:10 | ardissone: | no worries |
16:10 | ardissone: | k |
16:11 | ardissone: | was afraid the /invite had hung c-crap |
16:11 | ardissone: | let's go ahead and start |
16:11 | ardissone: | http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2011-03-23:Agenda |
16:12 | ardissone: | the biggest news is the Camino 2.0.7 section |
16:12 | ardissone: | we basically released in 2.5 days to cover the SSL cert breach everyone's talking about |
16:13 | smorgan: | ardissone is our SSL revocation system |
16:13 | ardissone: | haha |
16:13 | ardissone: | 2/3rds of our l10n teams got localized relnotes in 24 hrs, which is great, too |
16:14 | smorgan: | Impressive |
16:14 | ardissone: | (we typically need a week to get N.n.x relnotes) |
16:15 | ardissone: | Unfortunately, in conjunction with 10.6.7 and all the font fixes, we're seeing some incidents of nasty font caches |
16:15 | ardissone: | people who can't even browse |
16:16 | ardissone: | trying to help them out on the forum |
16:16 | ardissone: | but those crashes are no fun |
16:17 | ardissone: | and the users need hand-holding |
16:18 | ardissone: | we now have more than double the crashes of last night, so the crash list on the wiki is obsolete |
16:18 | ardissone: | (though I expect Flash will continue to take the top spot, in aggregate) |
16:19 | ardissone: | smorgan: do you have updated Flash version stats for this afternoon? |
16:19 | smorgan: | I'm trying to get them, analytics is freaking out though |
16:19 | ardissone: | :( |
16:19 | smorgan: | I can't make date queries work |
16:19 | ardissone: | :( |
16:20 | ardissone: | results from last night showed we'd finally started getting an improvement in the latest-Flash-10.2 rate |
16:20 | ardissone: | thanks to the releases |
16:21 | ardissone: | anyone have anything else on 2.0.7 so far? |
16:21 | smorgan: | nope |
16:21 | ardissone: | ok |
16:21 | ardissone: | We updated everyone on 2.1a1 to Sunday's 2.1a2pre nightly |
16:21 | ardissone: | so they'd also pick up the cert fix |
16:22 | ardissone: | without me having to spin another release/do release work for an a2 or early b1 |
16:23 | ardissone: | We discovered a recreate-PrefMgr-on-quit crash from the early 2.1a2pre data |
16:23 | ardissone: | and Stuart fixed it |
16:23 | ardissone: | and we decided our "use DontCreate if we know it can be after shutdown" mental model was broken |
16:24 | smorgan: | Ah, here are the Flash stats--for 2.0.7 users yesterday, it's 27.9% 10.2.latest, 17.7% 10.2.latest-1, 44.7% 10.1.latest |
16:24 | ardissone: | :) |
16:24 | smorgan: | For Intel Camino 2 (the number we've been looking at) it's 10.5/20.4/54.9 |
16:24 | ardissone: | that's up almost 3% since last night for 10.2-latest :D |
16:24 | ardissone: | :/ |
16:25 | ardissone: | hopefully that'll pick up as the update rolls out |
16:25 | smorgan: | That number includes pre-update pings |
16:25 | smorgan: | Because it includes 2.0.6 |
16:25 | ardissone: | mm |
16:25 | smorgan: | So it's expected that it's lower than 2.0.7. |
16:25 | smorgan: | We should see it trend up |
16:26 | smorgan: | In fact early results for the same segment for today are 19/18.4/48.8 |
16:26 | ardissone: | nice, lots of movement to 10.2-latest :D |
16:27 | smorgan: | Yep. And I imagine these number would cap out around 50%, or lower, now that we are including the welcome page in analytics |
16:27 | smorgan: | Because a large chunk of our pings are from people *seeing* the warning to update |
16:27 | ardissone: | mhm |
16:28 | ardissone: | it's not possible to also run a number that excludes welcome, i presmue? |
16:29 | smorgan: | I'm not sure; I haven't tried that. I'll try to remember to look into that at some point. |
16:29 | ardissone: | k |
16:30 | ardissone: | anything else on the former 2.1a1? |
16:32 | smorgan: | long live the new 2.1a1! |
16:32 | smorgan: | Well, not really |
16:32 | ardissone: | hehe |
16:32 | ardissone: | for 2.0.8 |
16:32 | ardissone: | the plan is to release post-b1 |
16:33 | ardissone: | once I get a second to breathe :P |
16:33 | ardissone: | 2.0.7 came off of the 2.0.6 minibranch + the Java games fix and the cert blacklisting |
16:33 | ardissone: | (+2011 :P) |
16:34 | ardissone: | 2.0.8 will pick up a few more Gecko security fixes |
16:34 | ardissone: | a few Camino crash fixes |
16:34 | ardissone: | and a couple misc Camino fixes (infinite loop, ad-blocking) |
16:35 | ardissone: | and then, barring any more security messes, should be the end-of-the-road for 2.0.x! |
16:35 | ardissone: | anything else on 2.0.8? |
16:36 | smorgan: | nope |
16:36 | ardissone: | ok |
16:36 | ardissone: | for 2.1b1 |
16:37 | ardissone: | we have autocomplete ui/ranking work left |
16:37 | ardissone: | one of the pluses of moving to 2.1a2pre is we get more pre-beta feedback on the changes since a1 :P |
16:37 | smorgan: | We do? I thought we were down to just strings for b1 |
16:38 | ardissone: | have you landed all your in-flight stuff? |
16:39 | smorgan: | I think so |
16:39 | ardissone: | cpeterso's patch i thought we said was close (it's not blocking, but we'd take it if it was done, i thought) |
16:39 | smorgan: | True |
16:40 | ardissone: | and also the last part of my chrome registration stuff |
16:40 | ardissone: | which, as a feature, really should be in for beta |
16:41 | ardissone: | and then Gecko strings updates |
16:41 | ardissone: | which i've started working through |
16:41 | ardissone: | but it's slow going |
16:42 | ardissone: | and my time is limited for the next week or so |
16:42 | ardissone: | so it won't happen immediately |
16:44 | ardissone: | and then post-b1 we'll have some other things we'll want to wrap up, like pinch |
16:44 | ardissone: | i haven't stared at those lists lately |
16:45 | ardissone: | but the goal is to do b1 in ~2wks |
16:46 | ardissone: | anyone have anything else on 2.1/b1? |
16:47 | smorgan: | refrains |
16:48 | ardissone: | hehe |
16:48 | ardissone: | good, becuase my head is going to explode soon |
16:49 | ardissone: | the queues are sort-of getting better, as Stuart works through his |
16:49 | ardissone: | pink's post-landing backlog, otoh, continues to grow ;) |
16:50 | ardissone: | but on the whole, there's less "blocking" happening in the queues, I think |
16:52 | ardissone: | anyone have anything else today? |
16:52 | smorgan: | not I |
16:53 | ardissone: | ok then |
16:53 | ardissone: | everyone please work on those 2.1/b1 bugs/reviews, and have a good week |