Status Meetings:2011-03-23:Log

Log from #camino-mtg starting 2011-03-23 16:00:28 -0400

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16:07	ardissone:	ilya: any idea where smorgan is?
16:09	ilya:	not sure
16:09	ilya:	looks like he might be in a meeting that went late
16:09	ardissone:	k
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16:09	ardissone:	any pink?
16:09	ardissone:	haha
16:10	ardissone:	smorgan: you here, or crashed?
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16:10	smorgan:	Here; sorry, meeting ran late
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16:10	smorgan:	just pinged pink; dunno if he'll be coming
16:10	ardissone:	no worries
16:10	ardissone:	k
16:11	ardissone:	was afraid the /invite had hung c-crap
16:11	ardissone:	let's go ahead and start
16:11	ardissone:	http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2011-03-23:Agenda
16:12	ardissone:	the biggest news is the Camino 2.0.7 section
16:12	ardissone:	we basically released in 2.5 days to cover the SSL cert breach everyone's talking about
16:13	smorgan:	ardissone is our SSL revocation system
16:13	ardissone:	haha
16:13	ardissone:	2/3rds of our l10n teams got localized relnotes in 24 hrs, which is great, too
16:14	smorgan:	Impressive
16:14	ardissone:	(we typically need a week to get N.n.x relnotes)
16:15	ardissone:	Unfortunately, in conjunction with 10.6.7 and all the font fixes, we're seeing some incidents of nasty font caches
16:15	ardissone:	people who can't even browse
16:16	ardissone:	trying to help them out on the forum
16:16	ardissone:	but those crashes are no fun
16:17	ardissone:	and the users need hand-holding
16:18	ardissone:	we now have more than double the crashes of last night, so the crash list on the wiki is obsolete
16:18	ardissone:	(though I expect Flash will continue to take the top spot, in aggregate)
16:19	ardissone:	smorgan: do you have updated Flash version stats for this afternoon?
16:19	smorgan:	I'm trying to get them, analytics is freaking out though
16:19	ardissone:	:(
16:19	smorgan:	I can't make date queries work
16:19	ardissone:	:(
16:20	ardissone:	results from last night showed we'd finally started getting an improvement in the latest-Flash-10.2 rate
16:20	ardissone:	thanks to the releases
16:21	ardissone:	anyone have anything else on 2.0.7 so far?
16:21	smorgan:	nope
16:21	ardissone:	ok
16:21	ardissone:	We updated everyone on 2.1a1 to Sunday's 2.1a2pre nightly
16:21	ardissone:	so they'd also pick up the cert fix
16:22	ardissone:	without me having to spin another release/do release work for an a2 or early b1
16:23	ardissone:	We discovered a recreate-PrefMgr-on-quit crash from the early 2.1a2pre data
16:23	ardissone:	and Stuart fixed it
16:23	ardissone:	and we decided our "use DontCreate if we know it can be after shutdown" mental model was broken
16:24	smorgan:	Ah, here are the Flash stats--for 2.0.7 users yesterday, it's 27.9% 10.2.latest, 17.7% 10.2.latest-1, 44.7% 10.1.latest
16:24	ardissone:	:)
16:24	smorgan:	For Intel Camino 2 (the number we've been looking at) it's 10.5/20.4/54.9
16:24	ardissone:	that's up almost 3% since last night for 10.2-latest :D
16:24	ardissone:	:/
16:25	ardissone:	hopefully that'll pick up as the update rolls out
16:25	smorgan:	That number includes pre-update pings
16:25	smorgan:	Because it includes 2.0.6
16:25	ardissone:	mm
16:25	smorgan:	So it's expected that it's lower than 2.0.7.
16:25	smorgan:	We should see it trend up
16:26	smorgan:	In fact early results for the same segment for today are 19/18.4/48.8
16:26	ardissone:	nice, lots of movement to 10.2-latest :D
16:27	smorgan:	Yep. And I imagine these number would cap out around 50%, or lower, now that we are including the welcome page in analytics
16:27	smorgan:	Because a large chunk of our pings are from people *seeing* the warning to update
16:27	ardissone:	mhm
16:28	ardissone:	it's not possible to also run a number that excludes welcome, i presmue?
16:29	smorgan:	I'm not sure; I haven't tried that. I'll try to remember to look into that at some point.
16:29	ardissone:	k
16:30	ardissone:	anything else on the former 2.1a1?
16:32	smorgan:	long live the new 2.1a1!
16:32	smorgan:	Well, not really
16:32	ardissone:	hehe
16:32	ardissone:	for 2.0.8
16:32	ardissone:	the plan is to release post-b1
16:33	ardissone:	once I get a second to breathe :P
16:33	ardissone:	2.0.7 came off of the 2.0.6 minibranch + the Java games fix and the cert blacklisting
16:33	ardissone:	(+2011 :P)
16:34	ardissone:	2.0.8 will pick up a few more Gecko security fixes
16:34	ardissone:	a few Camino crash fixes
16:34	ardissone:	and a couple misc Camino fixes (infinite loop, ad-blocking)
16:35	ardissone:	and then, barring any more security messes, should be the end-of-the-road for 2.0.x!
16:35	ardissone:	anything else on 2.0.8?
16:36	smorgan:	nope
16:36	ardissone:	ok
16:36	ardissone:	for 2.1b1
16:37	ardissone:	we have autocomplete ui/ranking work left
16:37	ardissone:	one of the pluses of moving to 2.1a2pre is we get more pre-beta feedback on the changes since a1 :P
16:37	smorgan:	We do? I thought we were down to just strings for b1
16:38	ardissone:	have you landed all your in-flight stuff?
16:39	smorgan:	I think so
16:39	ardissone:	cpeterso's patch i thought we said was close (it's not blocking, but we'd take it if it was done, i thought)
16:39	smorgan:	True
16:40	ardissone:	and also the last part of my chrome registration stuff
16:40	ardissone:	which, as a feature, really should be in for beta
16:41	ardissone:	and then Gecko strings updates
16:41	ardissone:	which i've started working through
16:41	ardissone:	but it's slow going
16:42	ardissone:	and my time is limited for the next week or so
16:42	ardissone:	so it won't happen immediately
16:44	ardissone:	and then post-b1 we'll have some other things we'll want to wrap up, like pinch
16:44	ardissone:	i haven't stared at those lists lately
16:45	ardissone:	but the goal is to do b1 in ~2wks
16:46	ardissone:	anyone have anything else on 2.1/b1?
16:47	smorgan:	refrains
16:48	ardissone:	hehe
16:48	ardissone:	good, becuase my head is going to explode soon
16:49	ardissone:	the queues are sort-of getting better, as Stuart works through his
16:49	ardissone:	pink's post-landing backlog, otoh, continues to grow ;)
16:50	ardissone:	but on the whole, there's less "blocking" happening in the queues, I think
16:52	ardissone:	anyone have anything else today?
16:52	smorgan:	not I
16:53	ardissone:	ok then
16:53	ardissone:	everyone please work on those 2.1/b1 bugs/reviews, and have a good week