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(all but crashes, I think)
 
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* Camino 2.0b2
 
* Camino 2.0b2
 
** Released four and a half weeks ago
 
** Released four and a half weeks ago
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009022317&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b2 crashes] — 122 so far, ~75 this week [this is much higher than before, even given that we have about 4x users over b1])
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009022317&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b2 crashes] — 142 so far, ~20 this week [finally similar to b1 increases])
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*** #1 <!--(14)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}} (rise in libobjc+swizzling)
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*** #1 <!--(18)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}} (rise in libobjc+swizzling last week)
 
*** #2 <!--(13)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|Flash%20Player}}
 
*** #2 <!--(13)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|Flash%20Player}}
 
*** #3 <!--(7)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}}
 
*** #3 <!--(7)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}}
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*** #4 <!--(5)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SystemConfiguration.212.2.0}}
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*** #4 <!--(6)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SystemConfiguration.212.2.0}}
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*** #4 <!--(5)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|0xfffeff20}}
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*** #4 <!--(6)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|0xfffeff20}}
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*** #5 <!--(4)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libdjHPUtils.10.2.dylib.10.2.0}} ({{TB|53536170}} involves 1P and shutdown)
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*** #5 <!--(5)--> is Core crash-on-quit {{bug|349463}}
 
*** Lots of pairs of random Gecko
 
*** Lots of pairs of random Gecko
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<!--*** #4 !--(2)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SetStyleSheetReference}}
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<!--*** #5 !--(4)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libdjHPUtils.10.2.dylib.10.2.0}} ({{TB|53536170}} involves 1P and shutdown)
 
*** #5 !--(5)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}}
 
*** #5 !--(5)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}}
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2 nsContainerFrame::Destroy
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-->
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2 nsFloatCacheList::DeleteAll
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*** Swizzles: {{TB|53253501}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53259627}} [nsObjcException], {{TB|53242747}} [nsFrame::Destroy], {{TB|53250277}} [CoreFoundation], {{TB|53405594}} [libstdc++.6.dylib.7.4.0], {{TB|53513861}} [CoreFoundation] , {{TB|53443216}} [libobjc], {{TB|53554877}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53584737}} [isTextBasedContent], {{TB|53588903}} [CoreFoundation], {{TB|53629780}} [libobjc], {{TB|53582181}} [libobjc+sluggish], {{TB|53692180}} [libobjc], {{TB|53561223}} [libSystemB], {{TB|53681416}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53722431}} [Cocoa] [new], {{TB|53813806}} [Cocoa] [new], {{TB|53715259}} [libobjc] [new], {{TB|53745487}} [SystemConfiguration] [new]
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3 libstdc++.6.dylib.7.4.0
 
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2 nsStyleContext::GetStyleDisplay
 
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2 QuickTime-->
 
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*** Latest swizzles: {{TB|53253501}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53259627}} [nsObjcException], {{TB|53242747}} [nsFrame::Destroy], {{TB|53250277}} [CoreFoundation], {{TB|53405594}} [libstdc++.6.dylib.7.4.0], {{TB|53513861}} [CoreFoundation] , {{TB|53443216}} [libobjc] [new], {{TB|53554877}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53584737}} [isTextBasedContent] [new], {{TB|53588903}} [CoreFoundation] [new], {{TB|53629780}} [libobjc] [new], {{TB|53582181}} [libobjc+sluggish] [new], {{TB|53692180}} [libobjc] [new], {{TB|53561223}} [libSystemB] [new], {{TB|53681416}} [SystemConfiguration] [new]  
 
 
<!--
 
<!--
 
*** Also, OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|51979682}}, {{TB|51970202}}, {{TB|52185198}}, {{TB|52293795}}, {{TB|52430931}}, {{TB|52529031}}, {{TB|52541896}}, {{TB|52761804}}, {{TB|52688239}} [AB] {{TB|52749126}} [AB], {{TB|52877218}}, {{TB|52856409}} [RolloverImageButton], {{TB|52846948}} [AB], {{TB|52899423}}, {{TB|53031023}} [AB] [new])-->
 
*** Also, OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|51979682}}, {{TB|51970202}}, {{TB|52185198}}, {{TB|52293795}}, {{TB|52430931}}, {{TB|52529031}}, {{TB|52541896}}, {{TB|52761804}}, {{TB|52688239}} [AB] {{TB|52749126}} [AB], {{TB|52877218}}, {{TB|52856409}} [RolloverImageButton], {{TB|52846948}} [AB], {{TB|52899423}}, {{TB|53031023}} [AB] [new])-->
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** Released yesterday
 
** Released yesterday
 
<!--** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary-->
 
<!--** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary-->
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM167/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009031127&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.6 crashes] — <!--854-->??? already<!--; that's on par with 1.6.x series, though 1.6.5 was much less crashy-->)
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM167/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009032711&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.7 crashes] — 4 already<!--; that's on par with 1.6.x series, though 1.6.5 was much less crashy-->)
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*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 2597<!--
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*** 1 each of libobjc, CoreGraphics, QuickTimeComponents, and random hex
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<!--*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 2597
 
*** #1 is Flash
 
*** #1 is Flash
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*** #2 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|libSystem.B}}
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*** #2 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|libSystem.B}}
 
*** #3 is Core crash-on-quit ({{bug|349463}})
 
*** #3 is Core crash-on-quit ({{bug|349463}})
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*** #4 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|CHBrowserView%20contentViewer}} (1Password-related; see {{bug|471681}})
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*** #4 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|CHBrowserView%20contentViewer}} (1Password-related; see {{bug|471681}})
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*** #5 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|CoreFoundation}}
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*** #5 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|CoreFoundation}}
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*** #6 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|libObjC.A.dylib}}
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*** #6 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|libObjC.A.dylib}}
 
*** 100s of random hex (many are plugins)-->
 
*** 100s of random hex (many are plugins)-->
 
** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
 
** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
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** Nothing yet
 
** Nothing yet
 
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode09 Summer of Code 2009]
 
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode09 Summer of Code 2009]
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** [[Development:Good_Bugs_and_Projects]] set up to capture ideas; Stuart has vetted (and ordered?) four ideas
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** [[Development:Good Bugs and Projects]] set up to capture ideas; Stuart has vetted (and ordered?) four ideas
 
** Camino Blog blogged about our ideas page; another mention in weekly update
 
** Camino Blog blogged about our ideas page; another mention in weekly update
 
** Jeff was reworking [http://summerofcamino.com summerofcamino.com] to help promote
 
** Jeff was reworking [http://summerofcamino.com summerofcamino.com] to help promote
 
** '''Student application period began last Mon; runs through Fri'''
 
** '''Student application period began last Mon; runs through Fri'''
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** At least one interested student, Patrick, has been in a couple of times
 
* Camino 2.0
 
* Camino 2.0
 
** Rough scoping doc at [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.0]]
 
** Rough scoping doc at [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.0]]

Revision as of 23:08, 31 March 2009

Wed 25 Mar 9am PDT (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

  • Camino 2.0b2
  • Camino 1.6.7
    • Released yesterday
    • Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.7 crashes — 4 already)
      • 1 each of libobjc, CoreGraphics, QuickTimeComponents, and random hex
    • Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
    • Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
  • Camino 1.6.8
    • Nothing yet
  • Summer of Code 2009
    • Development:Good Bugs and Projects set up to capture ideas; Stuart has vetted (and ordered?) four ideas
    • Camino Blog blogged about our ideas page; another mention in weekly update
    • Jeff was reworking summerofcamino.com to help promote
    • Student application period began last Mon; runs through Fri
    • At least one interested student, Patrick, has been in a couple of times
  • Camino 2.0
    • Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
      • Need to retriage 2.0 list (and blocking? list) again soon
      • Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b3 and add l10n to the whiteboard
      • Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - Bug 458205; smorgan shaking some trees
        • Key handling order changed right after b2 to let Camino menus have first crack; we need to make sure there are no unexpected regressions
    • Anti-phishing - Bug 476543 Ts regression all over (10% on minus); lots of follow-ups
    • Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - Bug 470159
    • Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken
    • Tabsposé - NSControl, need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
    • Tab dragging - new bugs reported against 10.4, scroll dragging, perf patch?
    • breakpad - smorgan writing the reporter client
    • UTF-8 - bookmarks manager needs new patch, then autocompletion typing
    • Flashblock CM - awaiting sr
    • Downloading -
    • Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings)
    • Icon work for 2.0 - Sam promised updates months ago
    • CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews (needs reviewer)
  • Tinderboxen
    • TREE CLOSED until boxset is running again - Sam moved
    • boxset - missing from tinderbox yet again Bug 479999
      • currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
      • had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
    • What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
    • cb-x1 starting to die again Bug 458217
      • kernel panic Valentine's weekend[1]
  • Weekly Bugs and Queues update
    • No net queue reduction, and the 2.0 bugs are still high

Specific bugs that need action

2.0b3pre

  • See 2.0b3? list
  • Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with

1.6.8

Other (if there's time)

  • 10.5 Visual UX
  • xpfe cleanup
    • see older Agendas if you're interested

Queries

Camino 2.0b3

  • l10n (18) [+1 since last week]

Camino 2.0

Queues

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