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==General Plans== | ==General Plans== | ||
* Camino 2.0b2 | * Camino 2.0b2 | ||
** Released four and a half weeks ago | ** Released four and a half weeks ago | ||
− | ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009022317&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b2 crashes] — | + | ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009022317&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b2 crashes] — 142 so far, ~20 this week [finally similar to b1 increases]) |
− | *** #1 <!--( | + | *** #1 <!--(18)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}} (rise in libobjc+swizzling last week) |
*** #2 <!--(13)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|Flash%20Player}} | *** #2 <!--(13)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|Flash%20Player}} | ||
*** #3 <!--(7)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}} | *** #3 <!--(7)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}} | ||
− | *** #4 <!--( | + | *** #4 <!--(6)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SystemConfiguration.212.2.0}} |
− | *** #4 <!--( | + | *** #4 <!--(6)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|0xfffeff20}} |
− | *** #5 <!--( | + | *** #5 <!--(5)--> is Core crash-on-quit {{bug|349463}} |
*** Lots of pairs of random Gecko | *** Lots of pairs of random Gecko | ||
− | <!--*** # | + | <!--*** #5 !--(4)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libdjHPUtils.10.2.dylib.10.2.0}} ({{TB|53536170}} involves 1P and shutdown) |
*** #5 !--(5)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}} | *** #5 !--(5)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}} | ||
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− | + | *** Swizzles: {{TB|53253501}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53259627}} [nsObjcException], {{TB|53242747}} [nsFrame::Destroy], {{TB|53250277}} [CoreFoundation], {{TB|53405594}} [libstdc++.6.dylib.7.4.0], {{TB|53513861}} [CoreFoundation] , {{TB|53443216}} [libobjc], {{TB|53554877}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53584737}} [isTextBasedContent], {{TB|53588903}} [CoreFoundation], {{TB|53629780}} [libobjc], {{TB|53582181}} [libobjc+sluggish], {{TB|53692180}} [libobjc], {{TB|53561223}} [libSystemB], {{TB|53681416}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53722431}} [Cocoa] [new], {{TB|53813806}} [Cocoa] [new], {{TB|53715259}} [libobjc] [new], {{TB|53745487}} [SystemConfiguration] [new] | |
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*** Also, OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|51979682}}, {{TB|51970202}}, {{TB|52185198}}, {{TB|52293795}}, {{TB|52430931}}, {{TB|52529031}}, {{TB|52541896}}, {{TB|52761804}}, {{TB|52688239}} [AB] {{TB|52749126}} [AB], {{TB|52877218}}, {{TB|52856409}} [RolloverImageButton], {{TB|52846948}} [AB], {{TB|52899423}}, {{TB|53031023}} [AB] [new])--> | *** Also, OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|51979682}}, {{TB|51970202}}, {{TB|52185198}}, {{TB|52293795}}, {{TB|52430931}}, {{TB|52529031}}, {{TB|52541896}}, {{TB|52761804}}, {{TB|52688239}} [AB] {{TB|52749126}} [AB], {{TB|52877218}}, {{TB|52856409}} [RolloverImageButton], {{TB|52846948}} [AB], {{TB|52899423}}, {{TB|53031023}} [AB] [new])--> | ||
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** Released yesterday | ** Released yesterday | ||
<!--** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary--> | <!--** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary--> | ||
− | ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM167/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid= | + | ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM167/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009032711&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.7 crashes] — 4 already<!--; that's on par with 1.6.x series, though 1.6.5 was much less crashy-->) |
− | *** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 2597 | + | *** 1 each of libobjc, CoreGraphics, QuickTimeComponents, and random hex |
+ | <!--*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 2597 | ||
*** #1 is Flash | *** #1 is Flash | ||
− | *** #2 is {{TBsig|16| | + | *** #2 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|libSystem.B}} |
*** #3 is Core crash-on-quit ({{bug|349463}}) | *** #3 is Core crash-on-quit ({{bug|349463}}) | ||
− | *** #4 is {{TBsig|16| | + | *** #4 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|CHBrowserView%20contentViewer}} (1Password-related; see {{bug|471681}}) |
− | *** #5 is {{TBsig|16| | + | *** #5 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|CoreFoundation}} |
− | *** #6 is {{TBsig|16| | + | *** #6 is {{TBsig|16|2009032711|libObjC.A.dylib}} |
*** 100s of random hex (many are plugins)--> | *** 100s of random hex (many are plugins)--> | ||
** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented) | ** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented) | ||
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** Nothing yet | ** Nothing yet | ||
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode09 Summer of Code 2009] | * [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode09 Summer of Code 2009] | ||
− | ** [[Development: | + | ** [[Development:Good Bugs and Projects]] set up to capture ideas; Stuart has vetted (and ordered?) four ideas |
** Camino Blog blogged about our ideas page; another mention in weekly update | ** Camino Blog blogged about our ideas page; another mention in weekly update | ||
** Jeff was reworking [http://summerofcamino.com summerofcamino.com] to help promote | ** Jeff was reworking [http://summerofcamino.com summerofcamino.com] to help promote | ||
** '''Student application period began last Mon; runs through Fri''' | ** '''Student application period began last Mon; runs through Fri''' | ||
+ | ** At least one interested student, Patrick, has been in a couple of times | ||
* Camino 2.0 | * Camino 2.0 | ||
** Rough scoping doc at [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.0]] | ** Rough scoping doc at [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.0]] | ||
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* Weekly Bugs and Queues update | * Weekly Bugs and Queues update | ||
** No net queue reduction, and the 2.0 bugs are still high | ** No net queue reduction, and the 2.0 bugs are still high | ||
+ | * Other | ||
+ | ** [6:45pm] jeff: did we all see: http://tinyurl.com/ccw28s ? | ||
==Specific bugs that need action== | ==Specific bugs that need action== |
Latest revision as of 21:17, 7 April 2009
Wed 1 Apr 9am PDT (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg
Contents
General Plans
- Camino 2.0b2
- Released four and a half weeks ago
- Talkback broken here, too (all 2.0b2 crashes — 142 so far, ~20 this week [finally similar to b1 increases])
- #1 is libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0 (rise in libobjc+swizzling last week)
- #2 is Flash%20Player
- #3 is nsObjCExceptionLogAbort
- #4 is SystemConfiguration.212.2.0
- #4 is 0xfffeff20
- #5 is Core crash-on-quit Bug 349463
- Lots of pairs of random Gecko
- Swizzles: TB53253501x [SystemConfiguration], TB53259627x [nsObjcException], TB53242747x [nsFrame::Destroy], TB53250277x [CoreFoundation], TB53405594x [libstdc++.6.dylib.7.4.0], TB53513861x [CoreFoundation] , TB53443216x [libobjc], TB53554877x [SystemConfiguration], TB53584737x [isTextBasedContent], TB53588903x [CoreFoundation], TB53629780x [libobjc], TB53582181x [libobjc+sluggish], TB53692180x [libobjc], TB53561223x [libSystemB], TB53681416x [SystemConfiguration], TB53722431x [Cocoa] [new], TB53813806x [Cocoa] [new], TB53715259x [libobjc] [new], TB53745487x [SystemConfiguration] [new]
- Bug 470159 - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related?
- TB53075806x - crash in NSS when quitting
- TB53502037x - Unnamed plug-in crashing while we're showing an alert?
- Camino 1.6.7
- Released yesterday
- Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.7 crashes — 4 already)
- 1 each of libobjc, CoreGraphics, QuickTimeComponents, and random hex
- Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
- Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
- Camino 1.6.8
- Nothing yet
- Summer of Code 2009
- Development:Good Bugs and Projects set up to capture ideas; Stuart has vetted (and ordered?) four ideas
- Camino Blog blogged about our ideas page; another mention in weekly update
- Jeff was reworking summerofcamino.com to help promote
- Student application period began last Mon; runs through Fri
- At least one interested student, Patrick, has been in a couple of times
- Camino 2.0
- Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
- Need to retriage 2.0 list (and blocking? list) again soon
- Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b3 and add l10n to the whiteboard
- Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - Bug 458205; smorgan shaking some trees
- Key handling order changed right after b2 to let Camino menus have first crack; we need to make sure there are no unexpected regressions
- Anti-phishing - Bug 476543 Ts regression all over (10% on minus); lots of follow-ups
- Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - Bug 470159
- Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken
- Tabsposé - NSControl, need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
- Tab dragging - new bugs reported against 10.4, scroll dragging, perf patch?
- breakpad - smorgan writing the reporter client
- UTF-8 - bookmarks manager needs new patch, then autocompletion typing
- Flashblock CM - awaiting sr
- Downloading -
- Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings)
- Icon work for 2.0 - Sam promised updates months ago
- CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews (needs reviewer)
- Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
- Tinderboxen
- TREE CLOSED until boxset is running again - Sam moved
- boxset - missing from tinderbox yet again Bug 479999
- currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
- had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
- What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
- cb-x1 starting to die again Bug 458217
- kernel panic Valentine's weekend[1]
- Weekly Bugs and Queues update
- No net queue reduction, and the 2.0 bugs are still high
- Other
- [6:45pm] jeff: did we all see: http://tinyurl.com/ccw28s ?
Specific bugs that need action
2.0b3pre
- See 2.0b3? list
- Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with
1.6.8
Other (if there's time)
- 10.5 Visual UX
- Bookmark bar - Bug 401340
- Tab bar
- Toolbar icons - Bug 384725
- We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
- App icon lines - Bug 402967
- Folders (UNCO) - Bug 436012
- xpfe cleanup
- see older Agendas if you're interested
Queries
Camino 2.0b3
- Blocking ? (18) [+1 since last week]
- Blocking + (2) [unchanged]
- Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
- l10n (18) [+1 since last week]
Camino 2.0
- Bugs targeted at 2.0 (18) [unchanged]
- Blocking ? (14) [+1 since last week] (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation)
- Blocking + (3) [unchanged]
- Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
- Bugs without target (713) [+1 since last week] need a “CLOSEME”/UNCO cleanup; did a small pass this weekend
- Bugs fixed since last meeting (2) [-4 since last week] (both were bugs in l10ns fixed by 1.6.7)
Queues
- Review (8) [unchanged] 1 untargeted
- Superreview (5) [+4 since last week]