Status Meetings:2008-02-13:Log

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[11:58am] smorgan: no pink today
[11:59am] smorgan: ice storm beats power line
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[12:03pm] mento: oh, i took a day off yesterday so today i thought it was tuesday
[12:03pm] ardissone|foraging: hehe
[12:04pm] ardissone|foraging: boxset also took part of yesterday off
[12:04pm] ardissone|foraging: thought it was 2040
[12:04pm] smorgan: lol
[12:04pm] mento: nice clock
[12:05pm] ardissone|foraging: (really, sam just screwed up something so email wouldn't go out)
[12:05pm] ardissone|foraging: it's fixed now, except for all the mail that wouldn't go out
[12:06pm] ardissone|foraging: anyway
[12:06pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone open in your Camino 1.6b2 or newer
[12:07pm] ardissone|foraging: the big news is sam stuart and i triaged 1.6 some yesterday
[12:08pm] ardissone|foraging: breakpad, animated scrolling, tab loop all got pushed out
[12:08pm] ardissone|foraging: tab dragging and flashblock are the two features done/in development that are "on the bubble"
[12:09pm] ardissone|foraging: we've still got a handful of nib/strings bugs and some follow-ups from feature landings
[12:10pm] ardissone|foraging: as always, the queries at the bottom of the page will help you in looking for bugs to fix
[12:10pm] ardissone|foraging: design work:
[12:10pm] ardissone|foraging: we have two icons we need that aren't under the umbrella of sam's deisgner
[12:11pm] ardissone|foraging: the "all tabs menu" icon needs some slight tweaks
[12:11pm] smorgan: I'm going to play with doing the same light-metal that I just posted for bookmarks for the find bar (the same as Safari's find bar) for Leopard
[12:12pm] ardissone|foraging: i asked smorgan to ask his co-worker about that icon (he who did the pop-up close buttins)
[12:12pm] ardissone|foraging: and the static "tab loading" icon; try the patch and leave some comments
[12:12pm] ardissone|foraging: yeah, and smorgan has a patch up for the bookmark bar
[12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: complete with illustrations
[12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: peeja needs to respin his patch for AS bookmark-eating
[12:14pm] jeff: I have my next DnD patch almost ready to go
[12:14pm] jeff: its feeling pretty solid
[12:15pm] jeff: so that should be up shortly
[12:15pm] ardissone|foraging:
[12:15pm] ardissone|foraging: murph's been handling the review duties on that and working on the OpenSearch follow-ups
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: oh, swupdate
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: i looked at Ts yesterday
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: fixing Gecko's stupid fonts has more than erased boxset's Ts regression
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: from swupdate
[12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: we still don't know what caused it
[12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: feedhandlers landed successfully last week on the third try
[12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: but we really need to exec them or whatever on first launch to make them useful (i.e., show up in the feed menu) in most cases 
[12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone else have anything on 1.6 in general?
[12:23pm] smorgan: ship it!
[12:23pm] smorgan:
[12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: "soon"
[12:23pm] smorgan: is holding out for RSN 
[12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: b3 RSN 
[12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: we do need to get on anything that will touch nibs/strings
[12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: in preference to other fixes
[12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: so that we can do b3, string-and-feature frozen
[12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: and l10n can get to work while we finish up other stuff
[12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: some of them have done b2
[12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: my feeling is most have not
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: so they'll need a month after b3
[12:27pm] smorgan: I think that list is pretty short now
[12:27pm] ardissone|foraging: 3+/3-/9?
[12:28pm] ardissone|foraging: 1 of the - being flashblock whitelist, which has a patch
[12:29pm] ardissone|foraging: a couple of those 9 are easy kicks if no-one gets to them
[12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: 1.5.5 is looking good so far
[12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: new topcrash 
[12:30pm] smorgan: Too bad it wasn't a few days later to catch 10.5.2 though 
[12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: LS being called by Flash player, if you believe that statck 
[12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: yeah 
[12:31pm] ardissone|foraging: stupid firedrill
[12:31pm] ardissone|foraging: nothing new/interesting about b2 from the talkback side
[12:32pm] ardissone|foraging: tinderboxen
[12:33pm] ardissone|foraging: we already discussed boxset's aversion to sending mail last night
[12:33pm] ardissone|foraging: any news on our new minis
[12:34pm] ardissone|foraging: (mini-binus and mini-mayaTrunk)?
[12:36pm] ardissone|foraging: Bug 413501 - Provide a one-per-version startup warning about problem add-ons
[12:36pm] ardissone|foraging: we need our language-people brains on
[12:37pm] ardissone|foraging: to come up with a good word for the title
[12:39pm] ardissone|foraging: Bug 413910 - Enable "Prevent sites from changing, moving or resizing windows" by default
[12:40pm] ardissone|foraging: if we take it on branch, it will be dead simple to revert if we have problems
[12:40pm] ardissone|foraging: i'm sort of of the mind that b3 is really our best chance of getting the change in that will get sufficient coverage for a long time
[12:41pm] ardissone|foraging: just because our nightly users pool is more limited
[12:41pm] smorgan: Are we going to publicize b3?
[12:41pm] ardissone|foraging: otoh, we don't want to break a bunch of stuff in b3 if it does turn out to break stuff
[12:41pm] ardissone|foraging: as in, update sites?
[12:42pm] smorgan: y
[12:42pm] ardissone|foraging: i don't know
[12:42pm] smorgan: If not, won't our testing pool be the same as our nightly testing pool?
[12:43pm] ardissone|foraging: well, there's the theory that more people will use betas than nightlies
[12:43pm] smorgan: I guess we have the blog
[12:44pm] ardissone|foraging: there's the banner on /features/ too
[12:46pm] ardissone|foraging: i'm fine either way, but we won't get a large enough mass visiting enough sites to really tell until we ship it in a big-enough release 
[12:46pm] ardissone|foraging: it's just whether it's 1.6b3 or 2.0b1
[12:48pm] smorgan: pink or mento should just call it, I guess
[12:48pm] ardissone|foraging: mhm
[12:48pm] ardissone|foraging: mento: weigh in when you're back from lunch?
[12:49pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone else have any bugs?
[12:49pm] smorgan: I'm guessing no-one objects to my bookmark bar change?
[12:49pm] smorgan: (since it's nearly invisible)
[12:50pm] ardissone|foraging: i haven't looked at it on a 10.5 machine yet
[12:50pm] ardissone|foraging: i.e., to see what others do in the bg
[12:50pm] ardissone|foraging: but yes, it's nearly invisible 
[12:52pm] ardissone|foraging: ok, anything else today?
[12:53pm] ardissone|foraging: oh, heh
[12:53pm] ardissone|foraging: pinkerton came in 30 mins ago :/
[12:54pm] ardissone|foraging: if there's nothing else, we can just pester pink and mento in the channel later about decisions ;)
[12:55pm] ardissone|foraging: if we're really excited, we can debate Bug 408593 - Only check for the default browser once
[12:55pm] ardissone|foraging: then too
[12:56pm] ardissone|foraging: ok then
[12:56pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone have a good week
[12:56pm] ardissone|foraging: work on those b3 bugs
[12:56pm] ardissone|foraging: oh
[12:56pm] ardissone|foraging: smorgan: recently-closed-tabs will also have to be a b3 bug
[12:56pm] smorgan: yes
[12:56pm] ardissone|foraging: i realized that last night :|
[12:57pm] smorgan: It should be easy
[12:57pm] smorgan: If it's not, we'll just punt it
[12:57pm] ardissone|foraging: mhm
[12:58pm] ardissone|foraging: ok, that's really it this time ;)