Status Meetings:2008-06-18:Log

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[12:01pm] ardissone: pink or smorgan?
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[12:01pm] cl: oh, heh, today's wednesday
[12:11pm] ardissone: ok
[12:13pm] ardissone: grr
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[12:13pm] ardissone:
[12:13pm] ardissone: everyone open your Camino 1.6.1 or newer to that page
[12:14pm] ardissone: !summon smorgan
[12:14pm] ardissone: who is working in bugzilla but not being here
[12:14pm] ardissone: first up
[12:14pm] ardissone: 1.6.1 about a month ago
[12:15pm] ardissone: fixed ML issues in an ML respin two weeks ago
[12:15pm] ardissone: lots of crashes in 1.6.1
[12:15pm] ardissone:
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[12:15pm] ardissone: anyone here on/with 10.4.11?
[12:15pm] delliott: Not me
[12:16pm] ardissone: Embedded RealPlayer is causing lots of crashes there
[12:16pm] cl: hrm, I think I do have a 10.4.x installation on my backup drive at the moment but I'm not entirely sure
[12:16pm] cl: and I don't know exactly where the drive is 
[12:17pm] ardissone: maybe i'll just file it and see if we can find one of the bug people to repro it
[12:17pm] ardissone: there are also a few comments in the libSystemB crashes noting that Camino crashed as soon as they did something in Google Desktop
[12:17pm] cl: blames pinkerton
[12:17pm] cl: Although you'd think if this was a common problem he would have seen it 
[12:18pm] ardissone: i don't know what they do to get at history, etc.
[12:18pm] ardissone: grr
[12:18pm] ardissone: !summon smorgan
[12:18pm] ardissone: also a few crashes still in Keychain code
[12:18pm] ardissone: and in ProgressViewController
[12:19pm] ardissone: otherwise, most of the camino code mentioned in those catch-all stacks is pretty random
[12:19pm] cl: kreeger might have an idea about the PVC stac
[12:20pm] ardissone: Gecko is frozen and supposed to go beta today
[12:20pm] ardissone: release set for the 24th
[12:20pm] kreeger: ping me in a few
[12:20pm] ardissone: we have a bunch of things to land
[12:20pm] kreeger: I have to catch a bus
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[12:20pm] ardissone: but we're blocked on not having builds 
[12:21pm] cl: ardissone: I guess file that PVC stack as a bug and have kreeger look into it 
[12:21pm] ardissone: i'll try to get relnotes ready so we can get them to l10n
[12:22pm] ardissone: everything's r/sr'ed except for the CA trust bug
[12:22pm] ardissone: which we'll probably minus and renom for the next
[12:23pm] ardissone: cl: are you still looking at that?
[12:23pm] cl: sort of
[12:23pm] cl: i might dig into it more today but I'm beginning to think it's seriously over my head
[12:23pm] ardissone: ok
[12:23pm] ardissone: poke others as needed 
[12:24pm] ardissone: knowing what patch broke it is at least a step forward 
[12:24pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on 1.6.x?
[12:25pm] ardissone: 2.0
[12:25pm] ardissone: pretty much the same story's it's been
[12:26pm] ardissone: smorgan's done some work on upgrading sparkle (blocked on andym committing his changes, last i knew) and the security UI changes
[12:26pm] ardissone: murph: anti-phishing news?
[12:27pm] murph: ardissone: just that I decided not to rush the reworked patch before the meet-up and will instead have it in a day or two
[12:27pm] murph: I needed to introduce a way to manage different types of lists...
[12:27pm] murph: and have been torn between two different approaches 
[12:28pm] ardissone: heh
[12:29pm] ardissone: you split off the part of the patch that enables us to respond to XUL
[12:29pm] murph: yep, so smorgan didn't have to wait for the phishing patch to use such behavior
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[12:30pm] smorgan: sorry, forgot it was Wednesday
[12:31pm] ardissone: there are some  crashes for you in the log/agenda
[12:31pm] ardissone: ok, so we'll await murph's new patch by the end of the week
[12:31pm] ardissone: next up
[12:31pm] ardissone: jeff!
[12:32pm] ardissone: mr tabs 2008
[12:32pm] jeff: whooo!
[12:32pm] jeff: I don't have much to say yet on tabs and Core Animation and Core Awesomeness
[12:33pm] jeff: I'm still in CA, I have not gotten a long period of time to look deeply into it yet, but tomorrow I will spend my day looking at it and report back
[12:34pm] ardissone: ok
[12:34pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on 2.0 or 2.0a1?
[12:35pm] ardissone: ok
[12:36pm] ardissone: the meet-up was saturday, and i think a good time was had by all
[12:36pm] ardissone: at the very least, jeff learned that i was a living, breathing human being 
[12:36pm] jeff: my whole world perspective has changed
[12:37pm] ardissone: per discussion, sam will blog and post a summary sometime "soon"
[12:38pm] jeff: and apparently (according to smorgan) I am grumpy all the time and cross my arms a lot
[12:38pm] smorgan: wonders how he is getting the blame for that
[12:39pm] jeff: need someone to blame
[12:39pm] murph: did our group picture ever make it online anywhere?
[12:39pm] smorgan: ss totally started it
[12:39pm] ardissone: haha
[12:39pm] ardissone: he's always a good one to blame
[12:39pm] ardissone: murph: going to be in the blog, i think
[12:39pm] murph: cool 
[12:39pm] ardissone: as always, we're blocked on ss 
[12:40pm] ardissone: tinderbox h*lll continues
[12:40pm] ardissone: we have the two minis doing trunk
[12:40pm] ardissone: monday sam was supposed to switch minimaya over to branch
[12:40pm] ardissone: except he was up until 4am fighting bots or something
[12:41pm] delliott: I agree, jeff talks into his hand
[12:41pm] ardissone: cb-x1 is supposedly mostly ready for us to try to use again
[12:41pm] ardissone: i don't know the details
[12:41pm] ardissone: i don't know if mento knows, or only sam
[12:42pm] ardissone: (that was most annoying, btw  )
[12:44pm] ardissone: cl rev'd the sample pane,  but it crashes branch, so he has to look at that again :P
[12:45pm] ardissone: we fixed a good number of bugs over the past two weeks, but the r queue is also continuing to climb
[12:45pm] ardissone: so if you have reviews targeted at you, please do look at them, and if your name is something other than smorgan, see if you can help share the load ;)
[12:46pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else?
[12:48pm] jeff: It was nice seeing everybody on saturday (especially the people on iChat)
[12:49pm] ardissone: it was nice to barely hear everyone, too ;)
[12:49pm] murph: for sure, this meeting has an entirely different perspective now that I can imagine faces instead of just names :)
[12:51pm] ardissone: :)
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[12:51pm] ardissone: ok then
[12:52pm] ardissone: everyone have a good week and enjoy the no-longer-faceless conversations :)
[12:52pm] ardissone: (over how to fix bugs, of course ;) )