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[12:18am] You changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2008-10-08:Agenda". [12:19am] cl was promoted to operator by you. [12:19am] isaac was promoted to operator by you. [12:00pm] pinkerton joined the chat room. [12:00pm] peeja joined the chat room. [12:00pm] murph joined the chat room. [12:00pm] ss: /wakeup ardissone [12:00pm] smorgan joined the chat room. [12:01pm] murph was promoted to operator by cl. [12:01pm] peeja was promoted to operator by cl. [12:01pm] pinkerton was promoted to operator by cl. [12:01pm] smorgan was promoted to operator by cl. [12:04pm] ardissone: :P [12:04pm] You are now known as ardissone|foraging. [12:05pm] pinkerton: sr queue at 0 [12:05pm] ardissone|foraging: :) [12:06pm] ardissone|foraging: did someone already invite jeff? [12:06pm] ss: No, I missed him in the list. [12:06pm] ss: Just did though [12:06pm] ardissone|foraging: k [12:06pm] ardissone|foraging: no mento yet [12:06pm] ardissone|foraging: but let's attempt to beging [12:07pm] ardissone|foraging: eveyrone please open your camino to http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2008-10-08:Agenda [12:07pm] ardissone|foraging: wherein you'll find today's fun [12:07pm] ardissone|foraging: 1.6.4 seems like it's doing well, other than that Core crasher [12:08pm] ardissone|foraging: where MoCo apparently landed a bug with known regressions on the branch and forgot to land the regression fixes [12:08pm] ardissone|foraging: byeond that, talkback is broken, so it's ahrd to tell too much without more digging than i'm up for atm [12:09pm] ardissone|foraging: nothing really new on 1.6.5, other than Sam told us last week when the Gecko release was scheduled, but I forgot to move it over [12:10pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone anything else on 1.6.x? [12:11pm] ardissone|foraging: on to the 2.0 train, then [12:11pm] ardissone|foraging: we found one minor bug during the freeze, which we took [12:12pm] ardissone|foraging: we started picking up Gecko landings in the last few days [12:12pm] ardissone|foraging: which is good because we got a bug we needed landed, and bad because there are now Gecko changes that haven't had much testing [12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: other than that, we're waiting on mento to find the final bugs in the relnotes and do spinning of a1 [12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: anything else on a1? [12:14pm] ss: Ship it! [12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: ok, 2.0 work items [12:15pm] ardissone|foraging: murph's been working on dragging and has his first patch in [12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: it seems to work pretty well [12:16pm] murph: [12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: what did we decide about background dragging? [12:17pm] You are now known as ardissone. [12:18pm] smorgan: We've always thought it should be possible, but it's not critical [12:18pm] ardissone: ok [12:18pm] ardissone: suspects it will be gruber's new complaint [12:18pm] ardissone: if we don't have it ready [12:18pm] smorgan: skipping it for now reduces complexity so we can get the main feature in [12:19pm] ardissone: mhm [12:19pm] pinkerton: yeah [12:19pm] ardissone: so smorgan will take first stab at the patch [12:20pm] smorgan: besides, gruber is too busy hating on Apple to care about us [12:20pm] ardissone: hehe [12:21pm] ardissone: murph: while that's in review, you'll look at some of the other bugs? [12:21pm] pinkerton: he's probably too busy watching the stock market [12:22pm] murph: ardissone: yes, definitely, the key loop ones and the appearance pref pane issue what you had in mind? [12:22pm] ardissone: yeah [12:22pm] ardissone: no sign of jeff...no idea about his progress, if any, this week [12:23pm] ardissone: hopes he's at least making sure to attend class [12:23pm] ardissone: hendy said the other day he'll be away/busy for the next fortnight [12:24pm] ardissone: so not expecting any fullscreen update for a bit [12:24pm] ardissone: ss is back in charge of our icon work [12:25pm] ss: On my todo list for the week! [12:25pm] ardissone: so he'll make it happen or pink will dispatch smorgan in a bread truck [12:25pm] ardissone: anything else on 2.0? [12:26pm] pinkerton: i hear new jersey is nice this time of year, down by the docks. [12:26pm] ss: Heh [12:26pm] cl: There's a nice Italian cobbler who'll make you some custom shoes to wear for that walk on the docks, too. [12:27pm] ardissone: cb-xserve01 has had another near-death incident [12:28pm] ardissone: where Ts went through the roof across board [12:28pm] ardissone: it's probably good for another couple months or so before it dies again [12:29pm] ss: Which likely points to a disk problem, fwiw. [12:29pm] ardissone: though diskutil claims it's fine [12:29pm] ss: Yeah [12:29pm] ardissone: stupid lying software [12:30pm] smorgan: Have you tried rebuilding the desktop? [12:30pm] ardissone: [12:30pm] pinkerton: maybe repair premissions [12:31pm] ardissone: one tiny permissions issue with /tmp, did nothing [12:31pm] pinkerton: for the record, i was kidding [12:31pm] cl: zap the PRAM! [12:32pm] ss: The entire OS was reinstalled from scratch once. [12:32pm] ss: And it worked fine, for a time. [12:32pm] ss: Now it's starting to have the same issue. [12:32pm] pinkerton: nice. [12:32pm] ss: When it broken down the last time, they tried all debugging steps. [12:33pm] ss: And called Apple for support, but since all diagnostic checks said it was fine, there was nothing they could do but reinstall. [12:33pm] ss: Which, again, seemed to work. [12:33pm] ss: So, not sure what to do but have them get it replaced. We'll see what happens if/when it finally dies. [12:34pm] Simon joined the chat room. [12:34pm] ardissone: in the meantime, the PPC minis are working again [12:34pm] ardissone: and just running Ts [12:34pm] ardissone: we'll try to keep them running so we'll be ready when the big boy goes down [12:35pm] ardissone: anyway [12:36pm] ardissone: we had a slow week that looked even slower because of the freeze (nothing landing), but we should have a bunch of stuff to land when we open [12:37pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else today? [12:42pm] ardissone: ok then [12:42pm] ardissone: everyone fix bugs and review patches, and have a good week!