Status Meetings:2008-10-22:Log
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[01:32am] You were promoted to operator by chanserv. [01:32am] You changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2008-10-22:Agenda". [01:32am] cl was promoted to operator by you. [01:49am] cl is now known as cl|zzz. [04:25am] hendy joined the chat room. [11:25am] cl|zzz is now known as cl. [11:57am] smorgan joined the chat room. [11:57am] peeja joined the chat room. [11:57am] cl: oh, heh, it's about that time [11:57am] hendy was promoted to operator by cl. [11:57am] peeja was promoted to operator by cl. [11:57am] smorgan was promoted to operator by cl. [11:57am] cl: no pink or mento? [11:58am] murph joined the chat room. [11:59am] murph was promoted to operator by you. [12:00pm] You are now known as ardissone|foraging. [12:04pm] ardissone|foraging: do we know if we expect either? [12:09pm] ardissone|foraging: well, i suppose if they come, they come [12:09pm] You are now known as ardissone. [12:10pm] ardissone: everyone please open http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2008-10-22:Agenda in your Camino 2.0a1 or newer [12:10pm] ardissone: hopefully everyone's having "fun" with the release [12:11pm] ardissone: haven't really heard anything about it so far [12:11pm] smorgan: Neither of my kittens has caught on fire yet [12:11pm] ardissone: that's a good sign [12:11pm] ardissone: watch for radiation poisoning, though [12:12pm] ardissone: and make sure pink knows we released [12:12pm] ardissone: 1.6.4 is still generating ~300 crashes a week [12:13pm] ardissone: the bulk still seems to be in libSystemB [12:14pm] smorgan: If I ever get time I'll sift through them again [12:14pm] ardissone: other than realplayer, hard to tell anything from them [12:14pm] mento joined the chat room. [12:14pm] mento was promoted to operator by chanserv. [12:15pm] ardissone: mediafire changed their uploader, so that seems to have calmed the xmlhttprequest core regression crash [12:16pm] ardissone: anyone else have anything on 1.6.4? [12:17pm] ardissone: it's now time to start thinking about 1.6.5 [12:17pm] ardissone: which is freezing fri and being released mid-nov [12:18pm] smorgan: 1.6.5 is freezing, or Gecko is freezing? [12:18pm] ardissone: we have some nominations, but last i looked they were mostly "ooh, if we fix this, we'd like it on the branch" [12:18pm] ardissone: Gecko [12:19pm] ardissone: though the more we land before they tag, the better, of course [12:20pm] ardissone: anything else on 1.6.5? [12:21pm] ardissone: back to 2.0 [12:22pm] ardissone: as noted, we shipped a1 yesterday [12:22pm] ardissone: we have 40 bugs on the 2.0 list [12:22pm] ardissone: which is not unreasonable if we work at them [12:22pm] ardissone: but probably a little high, given experience [12:23pm] ardissone: (plus 7 bugs that are 2.0? noms) [12:23pm] ardissone: so we'll try to pare that down a bit [12:24pm] ardissone: and make sure to get any bugs with l10n impact noted and nominated for b1 [12:24pm] ardissone: and pray to $DEITY of choice that bugs in Widget:Cocoa don't kill us [12:25pm] ardissone: in the keyboard loop realm, sean's got a patch for one of the regressions, the one that broke window people [12:26pm] ardissone: and both the weird bugs I found are probably due to the mutating ChildViews [12:26pm] ardissone: murph: anything else on that subject? [12:27pm] ardissone: (keyboard loop) [12:28pm] ardissone: there's actually a new focus bug with tabsposé that philippe filed last night, too [12:28pm] murph: hmm, you covered it well :), I only see reverse tabbing getting fixed by doing some kind of approach where we loop over all ChildViews and set a next key view on them... [12:28pm] murph: and unfortunately that's not very elegant a thing to have to do [12:29pm] murph: if I set a key view on them using F-Script, the loop does work in reverse [12:29pm] ardissone: it's unfortunate that it leads to some other bugs that don't seem directly related to them, but my guess is that it misses the boat for 2.0 [12:31pm] ardissone: reorderable tabs seems like the bigger win, if we had to ration your time [12:31pm] smorgan: I have started that review [12:31pm] ardissone: (and smorgan's) [12:31pm] murph: gosh yes, I'd love to see that get in [12:31pm] ardissone: [12:31pm] smorgan: Sorry it's taking so long [12:31pm] smorgan: I've just been really busy [12:32pm] murph: oh that's no problem! I'll be ready to refresh it right after the review [12:32pm] ardissone: i believe it's the start of busy season for everyone [12:32pm] smorgan: To keep you busy until it's done: have you tested the case where a tab closes during drag? [12:32pm] smorgan: (possibly even the one being dragged) [12:33pm] ardissone: slaps nasty js [12:33pm] murph: hmmm not entirely I haven't...I'll look into those cases [12:33pm] smorgan: as I learned with tabspose, it's a good way to get crashes that wouldn't show up in usual testing [12:35pm] ardissone: on the tabspose front, jeff is in midterms season [12:35pm] ardissone: now that it's out and being promoted, we're finding new bugs in it [12:36pm] ardissone: the sole complaint I've heard so far is that "it needs to be an icon" [12:36pm] ardissone: ss: where are we with icons? [12:37pm] ss: I failed this weekend. [12:37pm] ss: So ask me next week. [12:37pm] ardissone: ok [12:38pm] ardissone: hendy's been on vacation where IP packets come and go by sheep, but now he's back [12:38pm] hendy: i'm thinking that some of those 2.0 bugs should take priority over fullscreen [12:39pm] ardissone: probably, yes [12:39pm] ardissone: you're working on some that are on the ? list, iirc [12:40pm] pinkerton joined the chat room. [12:40pm] pinkerton was promoted to operator by you. [12:40pm] hendy: yes, that url decoding stuff. [12:40pm] hendy: it needs a new patch, which will look a lot like one of the previous patches for it [12:42pm] ardissone: do you think you can look at bug 453562 at all, or is that too much Gecko? [12:42pm] thebot joined the chat room. [12:42pm] ardissone: bug 453562 [12:42pm] ardissone: thebot: bug 453562 [12:43pm] You kicked thebot from the chat room. (you're useless) [12:43pm] hendy: yes, well, seeing as i kind of created that bug, i should take a look at it [12:44pm] ardissone: we may ultimately decide not to care about it for 2.0, but if you could take a look and give us an assessment, that'd be good [12:44pm] hendy: ok [12:44pm] ardissone: anything else in your domain? [12:46pm] hendy: possibly 376930, but i think i've got enough stuff to keep me busy at the moment [12:46pm] ardissone: ok [12:46pm] hendy: i have a neglected r? queue [12:47pm] ardissone: cl will appreciate that, now that your IP packets are flowing [12:47pm] hendy: maybe i'll even get the ExtendedOutlineView bug filed! [12:47pm] ardissone: [12:48pm] ardissone: the other two big items on the 2.0 list are breakpad integration and Gecko strings l10n, both of which are in danger [12:48pm] ardissone: (again) [12:49pm] smorgan: If I enter a parallel universe and have time, I'll definitely look at breakpad [12:49pm] smorgan: Or we could try to kidnap mento for a few days [12:49pm] mento: lalalalalalala [12:50pm] ardissone: seems like we should know a few guys [12:50pm] ardissone: i need to bug mento again on those buttons [12:50pm] ardissone: they're driving me nuts :) [12:51pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on 2.0? [12:53pm] smorgan: Only 36 bugs now! [12:53pm] smorgan: At this rate we'll be done by tomorrow [12:53pm] ardissone: haha [12:53pm] ardissone: if you've got patches waiting to land because of the freeze, we're unfrozen [12:54pm] ardissone: so you may land them, and inflate our "fixed bugs" number ;) [12:55pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else? [12:57pm] pinkerton left the chat room. [12:57pm] ardissone: ok then ;) [12:57pm] ardissone: everyone have a good week, please work on bugs and reviews :)