Status Meetings:2008-10-29:Log

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[12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: ok
[12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone please open your Camino 2.0a1 or newer to
[12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: on the a1 front, we haven't heard much so far
[12:15pm] ardissone|foraging: nonspecific whining from ars and tuaw
[12:15pm] ardissone|foraging: or macuser, i forget
[12:16pm] smorgan: And a small round of "who cares" comments
[12:16pm] smorgan: good times
[12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: on 10.4, there's a MASSIVE core crasher in the new native theme code
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: it produces >700 crashes/day in Firefox 3.0.3
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: and accounts for about 10% of our reported Talkback
[12:18pm] smorgan: Yeah, it was crashing Laura every time she loaded Google News when I first installed the alpha
[12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: most of our talkbacks are hitting it via Tabsposé
[12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: but at this point unless there's a magic rabbit in LA, we just have to wait and hope someone from Core will decide to figure it out
[12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: smorgan: there are 3 odd-looking swizzling-related stacks there
[12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: if talkback will load
[12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: it died on me last night
[12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: and there's still no ETA on fixing the Mac topcrash reports
[12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: re-suggests the "kidnap mento" plan 
[12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: anything else on a1?
[12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: i didn't get to look at 1.6.4 last night before talkback died
[12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: need to start working on 1.6.5 this week/next week; i assume Gecko froze on Fri
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: on to 2.0
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: smorgan did a bit of re-triaging of the 2.0 list last week
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: so we're at 35 bugs right now
[12:27pm] ardissone|foraging: we also need to make sure anything with l10n impact (touching a nib in any way) gets marked and nominated for b1
[12:28pm] ardissone|foraging: tabsposé needs a lot more hammering on it
[12:28pm] You are now known as ardissone.
[12:28pm] ardissone: it has some nasty bugs in it
[12:29pm] ardissone: if you have any cycles, try looking at some of the bugs related to it
[12:30pm] ardissone: while murph was waiting on his dragging tabs review, he fixed a couple regressions from the loop that were annoying us
[12:30pm] ardissone: murph: anything to add?
[12:31pm] murph: not too much, but now that the review is in I'm working hard to get that refreshed by this week
[12:33pm] ardissone:
[12:34pm] ardissone: hendy: any news from you?
[12:34pm] hendy: got 2 or 3 patches in.
[12:34pm] hendy: will look at some more bugs this week
[12:35pm] hendy: like middle click in bookmark bar
[12:35pm] hendy: and maybe some tabspose ones
[12:35pm] ardissone:
[12:36pm] hendy: and the zoom logic one; apart from that, no news
[12:36pm] ardissone: sounds good 
[12:37pm] ardissone: cl|zzz was checking with batwood to see if he might finish the flashblock whitelist, since it was pretty close last review, iirc
[12:37pm] cl|zzz is now known as cl.
[12:37pm] cl: yeah, i still haven't heard anythin g:(
[12:38pm] ardissone: if you haven't heard anything by the end of the weekend, it's probably safe
[12:38pm] ardissone: it sometimes took him 2wks to reply to me before
[12:39pm] ardissone: anything else interesting on your plate?
[12:39pm] cl: hrm, lemme look...
[12:39pm] ardissone: while you do
[12:39pm] ardissone: ss: what about our icons? you promised news today 
[12:40pm] ss: I did.
[12:40pm] ss: I have some icons on my computer that just need to be combined properly.
[12:40pm] ss: Haven't had time to do that, but it's on my list.
[12:40pm] ardissone:
[12:40pm] ss: I have no news on *new* icons. These are *refreshed* ones.
[12:40pm] ss: And were just delayed
[12:40pm] cl: the feed thing is pretty much ready, I just want to see it get another review from someone who knows Gecko string code well
[12:41pm] ardissone: are you "actively" seeking new icons?
[12:41pm] ss: Yes
[12:42pm] cl: ardissone: I think you and I need to sit down with the CBSamplePane stuff and figure out what the deal is with targets
[12:42pm] cl: otherwise that's about ready
[12:42pm] ardissone:
[12:42pm] ardissone: k
[12:42pm] ardissone: and then there's the bubble
[12:43pm] cl: and the rest of my list now is mostly stuff that isn't really critical for 2.0 anyway, so I'll just do it whenever.
[12:43pm] cl: Right now it looks like I'm going to have basically the last 2/3 of November off.
[12:43pm] cl: so I'll have some time to work on stuff.
[12:43pm] ardissone:
[12:44pm] ardissone: breakpad and Gecko strings remain on the bubble
[12:44pm] ardissone: no-one's working on them, and they both have major l10n impact
[12:48pm] ardissone: i'm probably going to tell l10n this week that strings are in danger
[12:49pm] ardissone: maybe one of them will want to take a crack at it
[12:49pm] smorgan: We could hand-roll the strings we currently support localizing
[12:49pm] ardissone: or, i may come back with no head
[12:49pm] ardissone: the .properties, or embed-replacements?
[12:50pm] smorgan: I was thinking properties
[12:50pm] smorgan: That's basically waiting for automation, but we could make a file now and automate later
[12:50pm] ardissone: ok, that's probably do-able since they shouldn't be changing
[12:50pm] smorgan: Yeah
[12:51pm] ardissone: ok, then i'll try to look at that
[12:51pm] ardissone: that also gets the benefit of smart quotes 
[12:51pm] ardissone: anything else on 2.0?
[12:53pm] cl: needs someone to take a real quick look at it (not 2.0-specific at all, though)
[12:56pm] ardissone: i'm not sure i understand the use-case of having a person's card set to company
[12:56pm] smorgan: Contact person at a company, presumably
[12:57pm] cl: my question was more along the lines of whether we want to kill the file like dhaas said we should, and merge it into the KindaSmartFolderManager :P
[12:57pm] cl: (and whether I should do that in a separate bug)
[12:57pm] smorgan: How is that at all related to this bug?
[12:58pm] cl: because fixing this bug would be messing around in files that we don't even need any more, if his comment is accurate.
[12:58pm] smorgan: merge != remove
[12:59pm] smorgan: Other than being two changes that touch the same file, I see no connection at all between changing the way we display one specific field and our class structure
[1:00pm] cl: so file a separate bug, then?
[1:02pm] ardissone: anything else this week?
[1:03pm] ardissone: ok, then
[1:04pm] ardissone: we made some progress on bugs and queues in the past week :)
[1:04pm] ardissone: still a number of things wanting of review, so keep that in mind
[1:04pm] ardissone: go forth and fix 2.0 bugs and have a good week! :)
[1:05pm] ardissone: oh
[1:06pm] ardissone: and froodian came by this weekend to tell us he was still alive and give us congrats on 2.0a1
[1:06pm] ardissone: so imagine a virtual pat on the back from him :)