Status Meetings:2008-11-05:Log

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[02:17am] ardissone: suggests cl zzz 
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[12:02pm] cl: i'm sort-of here
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[12:09pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone seen any pinkertons or mentovais lurking?
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[12:11pm] ardissone|foraging: ok, everyone please open http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2008-11-05:Agenda in your Camino 2.0a1 or newer
[12:12pm] ardissone|foraging: so far i've not really heard anything
[12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: otoh, talkback numbers seem really low, even for an alpha
[12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: which may mean most of our testers have moved on to 10.5 and Intel
[12:13pm] cl: pink isn't on AIM either
[12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: no, but he's here 
[12:14pm] cl: oh, heh.
[12:14pm] cl: there he is.
[12:14pm] cl: the 10.5/intel hypothesis seems reasonable
[12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: we have a new topcrash this week, on startup
[12:14pm] cl: I'm the only one on the team still regularly using PPC, right?
[12:15pm] ardissone|foraging: on trunk, i believe so
[12:15pm] cl: although I haven't seen any crashes in Camino trunk builds at all for like two months 
[12:15pm] cl: so that's good, for whatever it's worth 
[12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: the fact that the 10.4 Gecko crasher hasn't shown up more tells me we have very few 10.4 PPC users of the alpha
[12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: (or reporting)
[12:16pm] smorgan: Yes; it's certainly happening plenty
[12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: mstange might have a fix for that, which would be nice
[12:17pm] smorgan: I get plenty of personal reports of it
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: yet it was only +1 in talkback this week
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: which brings me to my next point
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: we really need to do something about crash reporting
[12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: talkback servers are still broken, and they seem to be dying under the load more
[12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: or Tuesday night is just bad for them 
[12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: i got through a1, but again it effectively died on me before I could start looking at 1.6.4
[12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: despite what Sam says, I personally don't believe MoCo has any intention of actually fixing the servers 
[12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: anyway
[12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else about a1?
[12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: on the 1.6.x front, i again have nothing new to report on the crash front 
[12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: for 1.6.5, Gecko has tagged but the release date may still slip
[12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: most of our bugs have landed
[12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: waiting on pinkerton to sr CamiTools
[12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: then we can land it and ad-blocking
[12:22pm] pinkerton: sorry, i was going to sr things yesterday and got distracted.
[12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: kittens? 
[12:22pm] pinkerton: work
[12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: alas, far less fun
[12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: if gecko slips, we'll be in good shape; otherwise, we'll trail them a bit on this release
[12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: anything else on 1.6.x?
[12:24pm] ss: Gecko won't slip
[12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: ok, we won't make the 12 then
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: particularly as i'm going to be pretty busy again
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[12:27pm] ardissone: on to general 2.0 stuff
[12:28pm] ardissone: stuart did a bit to the list last week; I haven't had a chance to go through it myself
[12:28pm] ardissone: we have no murph today
[12:29pm] ardissone: last i heard he had everything fixed except closing tabs during the drag
[12:29pm] ardissone: (thanks, Gecko)
[12:29pm] ardissone: so hopefully we'll see a new patch from him very soon
[12:29pm] ardissone: jeff: Mr Tabsposé!
[12:30pm] jeff: those are some nasty crashes involving tabspose
[12:30pm] jeff: but yea, midterms are over. going to look at more bugs today
[12:31pm] jeff: that is all. 
[12:32pm] ardissone: we'll need to evaluate the follow-up bugs there and see which ones we "need" for 2.0
[12:33pm] ardissone: hendy: i see you've posted the patch for bookmark bar middle-click
[12:33pm] hendy: yep
[12:33pm] ardissone: we should find it a reviewer
[12:33pm] hendy: that would be good
[12:34pm] ardissone: smorgan: do you want/have time to take a crack at it again, or should we pester someone else?
[12:34pm] smorgan: I'll take it
[12:34pm] ardissone: sounds good 
[12:34pm] hendy: cool
[12:35pm] ardissone: hendy: anything else from you?
[12:35pm] hendy: i have a few other patches in the queues
[12:35pm] hendy: will probably start work on 175470 and the content zoom issues
[12:36pm] ardissone: k
[12:36pm] hendy: i'd like to know if there's any update on the status of bug 371895
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[12:36pm] ardissone: bug 371895
[12:36pm] thebot: ardissone: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371895 enh, P3, ---, batwood.bugs@gmail.com, NEW, Implement a flashblock whitelist for Camino
[12:37pm] ardissone: cl: anything from batwood?
[12:38pm] ardissone: if not, it's been a good two weeks, so it's probably OK for you to pick it up
[12:38pm] ardissone: notes cl said he was only partly here
[12:38pm] ardissone: ss tells us he has no updates on our icon situation
[12:38pm] ardissone: or something to that effect
[12:39pm] ardissone: we covered our lack of breakpad earlier
[12:39pm] thebot: Firefox: 'Linux mozilla-central leak test build' has changed state from Success to Test Failed.
[12:39pm] ardissone: i manually converted all the .properties files last night
[12:39pm] smorgan: w00t!
[12:39pm] ardissone: (semi-manually)
[12:39pm] thebot: Firefox: 'Linux mozilla-central moz2-linux-slave07 dep unit test' has changed state from Success to Test Failed.
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[12:40pm] ardissone: however, i can't get them to be used
[12:40pm] cl: oh, yeah, batwood e-mailed me back
[12:40pm] ardissone: what did he say?
[12:41pm] cl: Thanks for the kind words, Chris.  I definitely miss working on Camino.  My job has really been pounding me, for about a year now.  Frankly I'm not sure how much more I want to deal with this level of work-load.
[12:41pm] cl: But enough about that!  Yeah, I want to finish this bug up, I think it's fairly close, I just need to set aside a few hours.  I'm on a flight tomorrow so that might be a good use of the time.
[12:41pm] cl: Hope everything's good for you too and glad to hear that Camino is still progressing well.
[12:41pm] cl: Bryan
[12:41pm] ardissone: ok
[12:41pm] cl: that was last thursday
[12:41pm] ardissone: heh
[12:41pm] cl: so if I don't see anything posted there in another week, say, I'll ping him again.
[12:42pm] ardissone: sounds good
[12:42pm] ardissone: we'll have to tighten down that time period if there's nothing as we get closer
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[12:43pm] ardissone: mento: how are you looking towards the end of this week, spinning-wise?
[12:43pm] mento: possible
[12:43pm] ardissone:
[12:44pm] ardissone: hopefully we can finish the last landings and notes in that timeframe
[12:45pm] ardissone: if you ever find a breakpad rabbit in your magic hat, that would be incredible, too 
[12:45pm] ardissone: ok, back to those nasty Gecko strings
[12:46pm] ardissone: i tried the js prompt and the necko status ones, and they weren't working
[12:47pm] smorgan: we can talk about it in channel later
[12:47pm] ardissone: yeah
[12:47pm] ardissone: was just about to say that
[12:48pm] ardissone: in case anyone wondered, our tinderbox continue to prove more and more unreliable :P
[12:48pm] ardissone: er, anyone else have anything about 2.0/2.0b1?
[12:49pm] ardissone: we need to start thinking about a date soon-ish
[12:51pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on anything?
[12:51pm] smorgan: We should get tab dragging and the core crash fix, then figure out a data
[12:51pm] smorgan: date, even
[12:51pm] ardissone: mhm
[12:52pm] ardissone: hopefully markus's patch solves it and will get 1.9.0 approval sometime this century
[12:54pm] ardissone: OK then
[12:54pm] ardissone: everyone have a good week, and work on those patches and reviews!
[12:55pm] ardissone: :)