Status Meetings:2008-11-12:Agenda
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Wed 12 Nov 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg
Contents
General Plans
- Camino 2.0a1
- Released three weeks ago
- Talkback broken here, too (all 2.0a1 crashes — 75 so far, adding ≈30/week; low?)
- #1 is 0xfffeff20 (6 are Bug 458961 - Core 10.4 topcrash; 4 of those are triggered by Tabsposé)
- #2 is Cocoa.12.0.0 (startup crash; TB50869706x is sample)
- #3 is Flash
- #4 is libSystem.B.dylib.111.0.0 (5 are Bug 458961 on 10.5.0b5)
- #5 is nsObjCExceptionLogAbort (2 are probably Bug 458961)
- Also, 3 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling (TB50702043x, TB50686087x, TB50604116x)
- Camino 1.6.4
- Released five weeks ago
- Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.4 crashes — 2022; increasing ~300/wk)
- Hard to tell much without topcrashers, but Flash looks like #1, libSystem.B seems to had a big uptick over the last week (RealPlayer, Bug 448554, bug 448554 comment 1), usual suspects + Core xmlhttpreq also up there
- Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
- Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
- Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
- Camino 1.6.5
- Need to spin ASAP; Gecko release today
- About 1/2 of relnotes are ready
- Camino 1.6.6
- Gecko release set for 16 Dec (probably Gecko 1.8.1 EOL from a practical perspective)
- Camino 2.0
- Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
- Need to retriage 2.0 list now; smorgan's done some
- Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b1 and add l10n to the whiteboard
- Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation
- Anti-phishing - can't get permission :(
- Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones
- Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0
- Tabsposé - need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0; also needs more QA - collecting bugs we should fix
- Tab dragging - r- on first patch; working on second (no sign of murph in a week)
- Fullscreen - hendy looking at other bugs (middle-click)
- Icon work for 2.0 - need to coordinate through Sam; updates promised two weeks ago
- breakpad -
- Gecko strings l10n - need to rework patch; no .dtd solution yet
- Flashblock whitelist - (batwood/cl)
- Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
- Tinderboxen
- boxset had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down
- cb-x1 still reporting with truncated hostname; also, starting to die again Bug 458217
- cb-minimaya running "1.6-M1.8" Ts (65 min dep)
- cb-minibinus running "2.0-M1.9" Ts (45 min dep)
- PPC minis need weekly reboots to keep running
- cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
- Dev docs
- CBSamplePane: can now build branch-compatible pane using trunk files; cl needs to address review comments
- Weekly Bugs and Queues update
- r queue still fairly full, 2.* lists not declining much.
Specific bugs that need action
2.0b1pre
- See 2.0b1? list
- Cocoa widgets still pretty scary; there are a number of regressions we'll be stuck with
1.6.5
Other (if there's time)
- 10.5 Visual UX
- Bookmark bar - Bug 401340
- Tab bar
- Toolbar icons - Bug 384725
- We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
- App icon lines - Bug 402967
- Folders (UNCO) - Bug 436012
- cl's buglist
- Bug 175748 - Need mechanism for creating new blank bookmarks
- Bug 318931 - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on Bug 438256?)
- Bug 363664 - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"
- xpfe cleanup
- Bug 389140 gets us using the right theme files; needs r=mento
- Bug 428333 license.html; needs r=mento
- stefanh has a "build finishes, crashes on startup" MOZ_XUL_APP patch
[4:16pm] stefanh: "<Standard8>stefanh, so, my guess is you need to implement something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/app/ (nsSuiteApp.cpp, application.ini, Makefile.in) somewhere in camino"
[4:16pm] stefanh: "stefanh, when you flip the flags, the main things that'll affect you immediately are the startup code, command line handlers and possibly alerts
[4:16pm] stefanh: stefanh, so xpfe/components/startup/ -> toolkit/components/commandlines toolkit/components/startup etc"
[4:17pm] stefanh: ardissone|ish: feel free to play with the code :P
Queries
Camino 2.0b1
- Blocking ? (15) [+7 since last week]
- Blocking + (1) [unchanged]
- Blocking - (1) [unchanged]
Camino 2.0
- Bugs targeted at 2.0 (33) [unchanged]
- Blocking ? (8) [-1 since last week] (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation)
- Blocking + (2) [unchanged]
- Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
- Bugs without target (652) [+1 since last week]
- Bugs fixed since last meeting (8) [+6 since last week] (0 were 2.0-targeted; 2 were ad-blocking; 1 was relnotes, 2 were website/IT)
Queues
- Review (12) [-2 since last week] 2 untargeted
- Superreview (0) [-4 since last week]