Status Meetings:2009-03-25:Agenda
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Wed 25 Mar 9am PDT (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg
Contents
General Plans
- Camino 2.0b2
- Released three and a half weeks ago
- Talkback broken here, too (all 2.0b2 crashes — 122 so far, ~75 this week [this is much higher than before, even given that we have about 4x users over b1])
- #1 is libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0 (rise in libobjc+swizzling)
- #2 is Flash%20Player
- #3 is nsObjCExceptionLogAbort
- #4 is SystemConfiguration.212.2.0
- #4 is 0xfffeff20
- #5 is libdjHPUtils.10.2.dylib.10.2.0 (TB53536170x involves 1P and shutdown)
- Lots of pairs of random Gecko
- Latest swizzles: TB53253501x [SystemConfiguration], TB53259627x [nsObjcException], TB53242747x [nsFrame::Destroy], TB53250277x [CoreFoundation], TB53405594x [libstdc++.6.dylib.7.4.0], TB53513861x [CoreFoundation] , TB53443216x [libobjc] [new], TB53554877x [SystemConfiguration], TB53584737x [isTextBasedContent] [new], TB53588903x [CoreFoundation] [new], TB53629780x [libobjc] [new], TB53582181x [libobjc+sluggish] [new], TB53692180x [libobjc] [new], TB53561223x [libSystemB] [new], TB53681416x [SystemConfiguration] [new]
- Bug 470159 - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related?
- TB53075806x - crash in NSS when quitting
- TB53502037x - Unnamed plug-in crashing while we're showing an alert?
- Camino 1.6.6
- Released fourteen weeks ago
- Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary
- Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.6 crashes — ??? already)
- Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 2597
- Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
- Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
- Camino 1.6.7
- Tb-focused Gecko release last week
- We didn't declare 1.6.6 EOL (no stable release yet); do one last release after 2.0?
- Everything has landed; would like confirmation from pink on the default browser bug
- Plan to spin this evening, release next Tuesday
- Summer of Code 2009
- Development:Good_Bugs_and_Projects set up to capture ideas; Stuart has vetted (and ordered?) four ideas
- Need to blog again now that we have solid ideas (Camino Blog?)
- Jeff was reworking summerofcamino.com to help promote
- Student application period began Mon; runs through next week Fri
- Camino 2.0
- Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
- Need to retriage 2.0 list (and blocking? list) again soon
- Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b3 and add l10n to the whiteboard
- Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - Bug 458205; smorgan shaking some trees
- still waiting on verification that Bug 471948 (appshell crash-on-quit) was fixed by Steven's patch few weeks ago
- Key handling order changed right after b2 to let Camino menus have first crack; we need to make sure there are no unexpected regressions
- Anti-phishing - Bug 476543 Ts regression all over (10% on minus); lots of follow-ups
- Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - Bug 470159
- Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken
- Tabsposé - NSControl, need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
- Tab dragging - scroll dragging, perf patch?
- breakpad - smorgan writing the reporter client
- UTF-8 - bookmarks manager patch needs a reviewer, then autocompletion typing
- Flashblock CM - partial review, but rotted
- Downloading -
- Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings)
- Icon work for 2.0 - Sam promised updates months ago
- CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews (needs reviewer)
- Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
- Tinderboxen
- boxset - missing from tinderbox yet again Bug 479999
- currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
- had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
- What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
- cb-x1 starting to die again Bug 458217
- kernel panic Valentine's weekend[1]
- boxset - missing from tinderbox yet again Bug 479999
- Weekly Bugs and Queues update
- Moved some bugs through again, but the 2.0 bugs are still high
Specific bugs that need action
2.0b3pre
- See 2.0b3? list
- Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with
1.6.7
Other (if there's time)
- 10.5 Visual UX
- Bookmark bar - Bug 401340
- Tab bar
- Toolbar icons - Bug 384725
- We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
- App icon lines - Bug 402967
- Folders (UNCO) - Bug 436012
- xpfe cleanup
- see older Agendas if you're interested
Queries
Camino 2.0b3
- Blocking ? (17) [-1 since last week]
- Blocking + (2) [-1 since last week]
- Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
- l10n (17) [unchanged]
Camino 2.0
- Bugs targeted at 2.0 (18) [-1 since last week]
- Blocking ? (13) [unchanged] (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation)
- Blocking + (3) [unchanged]
- Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
- Bugs without target (712) [-3 since last week] need a “CLOSEME”/UNCO cleanup
- Bugs fixed since last meeting (6) [+2 since last week] (1 was 2.0-targeted, 1 was website)
Queues
- Review (8) [-1 since last week] 2 untargeted
- Superreview (1) [-3 since last week]