Status Meetings:2009-04-01:Log

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[12:13pm] Patrick_: Hello folks.
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[12:13pm] ardissone: brb
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[12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: smorgan: are we expecting pink?
[12:17pm] smorgan: Check, but I would guess not
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: k
[12:19pm] smorgan: guesses wrong
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[12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: hehe
[12:19pm] pinkerton: sorry talking to jo
[12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: hehe
[12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: we have some different faces here this week
[12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: so everyone, this is Patrick_ ; Patrick_ , this is everyone else
[12:20pm] pinkerton: waves
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[12:21pm] everyone_else: waves
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[12:21pm] Patrick_: Hello everyone, this will be my second meeting.
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[12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone please open your 2.0b2 or newer to
[12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: i'll hit the "other" first
[12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: [6:45pm] jeff: did we all see: ?
[12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: another Camino fan in print
[12:23pm] pinkerton: fuck yeah
[12:24pm] pinkerton: tweets
[12:24pm] ardissone|foraging:
[12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: our friend mehmet from bugzilla also left a nice comment on the weekly update:
[12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: any other fun Camino news of the world?
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: 2.0b2
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: our crash-rate-increase was cut in half this week
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: back to what it had been for b1 and a1
[12:27pm] pinkerton: that's good
[12:27pm] ardissone|foraging: dunno if that's good or bad
[12:27pm] pinkerton: did it go back to normal w/out us doing anything?
[12:27pm] ardissone|foraging: we had had 4x users than b1, but i don't know what the recent stats are
[12:27pm] pinkerton: maybe it was my FixCamino virus
[12:27pm] ardissone|foraging: haha
[12:28pm] ardissone|foraging: not sure when we get sam back so that we can find out those things 
[12:28pm] ss: Crash on update/migration maybe?
[12:29pm] ardissone|foraging: but about half the crashes are random gecko stuff
[12:29pm] ss: ok
[12:29pm] ardissone|foraging: most of the rest are random Cocoa-related stuff
[12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: nothing jumping out at me
[12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else on b2?
[12:31pm] ardissone|foraging: in case you missed it, we released 1.6.7 yesterday
[12:31pm] ardissone|foraging: it includes the fix for the 0-day
[12:32pm] ardissone|foraging: plus several months of other Gecko fixes
[12:32pm] pinkerton: i saw the tweet
[12:32pm] ardissone|foraging: and lots of fixes from us
[12:33pm] ardissone|foraging: nice; someone's doing their job 
[12:33pm] pinkerton: do we have an intern for that? 
[12:34pm] ardissone|foraging: probably a !clone 
[12:34pm] ardissone|foraging: only 4 crashes as of last night, so nothing much to report there
[12:35pm] ardissone|foraging: due to talkback suckage, next week will probably be the only week i'll be able to easily see what we're doing there
[12:35pm] ardissone|foraging: nothing to report yet on 1.6.8
[12:35pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone else on 1.6.x?
[12:36pm] ardissone|foraging: (besides the guy on MacUpdate who thought we were wasting our time with 1.6.x releases because it was less stable than trunk  )
[12:37pm] smorgan: Yeah, a few hours to get critical security fixes out was clearly a waste
[12:37pm] smorgan: We should definitely take all of our project management direction from people who don't know anything about our development 
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[12:38pm] smorgan: Is there likely to be a Gecko for 1.6.8?
[12:38pm] ardissone|foraging: at some point, yes
[12:38pm] ardissone|foraging: sam thought they might keep landing stuff until December
[12:38pm] ardissone|foraging: (i think)
[12:38pm] ardissone|foraging: for Tb and distros
[12:39pm] ss: We'll keep maintaining Gecko 1.8.1 for Thunderbird until (at least) December.
[12:39pm] ss: Aiming for "every two months" releases.
[12:39pm] ardissone|foraging: so we can try to match that; every 2 is not so bad as every 4-6wks 
[12:40pm] ardissone|foraging: SoC
[12:40pm] ardissone|foraging: i think we've been doing a better job with press for it this year
[12:40pm] ardissone|foraging: (caminobrowser probably should have tweeted it too, but pink did)
[12:41pm] ardissone|foraging: we know we have at least Patrick_ interested 
[12:41pm] pinkerton: i haven't looked at any of the proposals. how are we doign there?
[12:41pm] pinkerton: i'm not signed up for mentorship on camino. is someone else?
[12:41pm] ardissone|foraging: if you don't know, i doubt anyone else does
[12:42pm] ardissone|foraging: erm 
[12:42pm] pinkerton: heh
[12:42pm] smorgan: I applied the other day; need to be cleared through Moz if it hasn't been already
[12:42pm] pinkerton: ok
[12:42pm] Patrick_: About SoC
[12:42pm] pinkerton: i'm mentoring for chromium for sure. not sure if i have time to do it for camino too
[12:43pm] Patrick_: I received a public review of my proposal.
[12:44pm] Patrick_: It said I should be more specific about my schedule of deliverables.
[12:44pm] pinkerton: ok
[12:45pm] ardissone|foraging: Patrick_: can you stick around a bit after the meeting and talk about it then?
[12:46pm] Patrick_: Yes
[12:46pm] ardissone|foraging: would like to try to get us through the 2.0 stuff by 1
[12:46pm] ardissone|foraging: ok 
[12:46pm] ardissone|foraging: murph: any updates on anti-phishing?
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[12:47pm] murph: ardissone|foraging: I am actually finishing up my fixes to the tab drag performance patch first
[12:47pm] murph: I should be done that very shortly
[12:47pm] ardissone|foraging: ok
[12:47pm] murph: and after that I'm going to implement the phishing transient bar, which shouldn't take too much code
[12:48pm] ardissone|foraging: do you think the perf patch will fix those two 10.4 bugs?
[12:48pm] murph: Actually, which bugs do you mean?
[12:49pm] ardissone|foraging:
[12:49pm] ardissone|foraging:
[12:49pm] Patrick_: Be right back.
[12:49pm] ardissone|foraging: while he looks at those
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[12:49pm] ardissone|foraging: smorgan: any news on breakpad? 
[12:50pm] smorgan: The bad news I haven't really worked on it since I was traveling.
[12:50pm] murph: Yeah, it actually should fix the second one, for sure I would think
[12:50pm] smorgan: But the good news:
[12:50pm] smorgan:
[12:50pm] ardissone|foraging: awesome
[12:50pm] smorgan: Assuming this does everything I think, I could be done by the end of the week
[12:50pm] ardissone|foraging:
[12:51pm] ardissone|foraging: chromium+google++
[12:51pm] pinkerton: yay!
[12:52pm] ardissone|foraging: murph: that's good; can you dust off the iBook and check them both at some point?
[12:52pm] murph: yep, I sure can 
[12:52pm] ardissone|foraging:
[12:52pm] murph: I'll make sure to solve the first one too, my patch might do it
[12:53pm] ardissone|foraging: jeff's working on a presentation and has 2 big tests tomorrow
[12:53pm] ardissone|foraging: but he says then he'll get back to his patches
[12:53pm] ardissone|foraging: he said he's also considering SoC
[12:53pm] pinkerton: cool
[12:54pm] ardissone|foraging: hendy: UTF-8, applescript and flashblock
[12:54pm] hendy: yep
[12:55pm] hendy: i'm going to bust out my hillegas today and write a formatter for the utf-8 stuff
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[12:55pm] ardissone|foraging: the other two are both waiting for sr, right?
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[12:55pm] hendy: yes
[12:56pm] ardissone|foraging: and the other night i applied the old next utf-8 patch and pointed out some bugs in it, which i think you have fixed in your tree
[12:56pm] ardissone|foraging: (typing in autocomplete, for all our non-Roman friends)
[12:57pm] hendy: yes, and i'll upload that patch once the other bug is fixed
[12:57pm] ardissone|foraging: so we can see the light at the end of the UTF-8 tunnel shortly
[12:57pm] ardissone|foraging:
[12:57pm] hendy: it will probably involve using the formatter
[12:58pm] ardissone|foraging: code reuse++
[12:58pm] cl: oh, heh, forgot we had a meeting today
[12:58pm] pinkerton: oh sorry, didn't realize there were sr's pending
[12:58pm] cl: i was taking a nap
[12:58pm] ardissone|foraging: pinkerton: yeah, half to each of you
[12:58pm] ardissone|foraging: but the tree's closed at the moment
[12:59pm] ardissone|foraging: boxset is not running yet
[12:59pm] ardissone|foraging: after sam's move
[12:59pm] ardissone|foraging: he sa\ys tonight or tomorrow
[12:59pm] ardissone|foraging: crazy guy, moving while doing a 0-day release 
[12:59pm] pinkerton: oh i have 3
[12:59pm] ardissone|foraging: ilya: downloading or other updates?
[1:00pm] ilya: nothing right now, but hoping to do a few small patches later in the week
[1:00pm] cl: right, so i just have one thing for today's meeting and i have to run, but real quick, i'd just like smorgan and pinkerton to take a look at that pointer deref bug when they get a chance and let me know which of those various situations we should worry about fixing
[1:00pm] pinkerton: url?
[1:00pm] ardissone|foraging: it's in your queue
[1:01pm] ardissone|foraging: "queue placeholder" or something
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[1:01pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else on 2.0?
[1:02pm] pinkerton: ah yes it is
[1:02pm] ardissone|foraging: we didn't fix any bugs the last week, mostly due to tree+release+travel (l10n fixed 2), but we did grow the sr queue and keep the r queue steady
[1:02pm] pinkerton: eegads
[1:03pm] ardissone|foraging: meaning we are working, at least :)
[1:03pm] hendy: pinkerton: thanks
[1:03pm] pinkerton: yeh, i don't have time to audit that list this week, i'm afraid
[1:04pm] pinkerton: other sr's clear
[1:04pm] ardissone|foraging: :D
[1:05pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else this week?
[1:05pm] ardissone|foraging: ok then
[1:06pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone have a good week, and keep up the good work on those patches :D
[1:06pm] ardissone|foraging: (and reviews ;) )