Status Meetings:2009-04-01:Log
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[02:33am] You were promoted to operator by chanserv. [02:33am] You changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-04-01:Agenda". [02:33am] cl was promoted to operator by you. [11:44am] murph joined the chat room. [12:01pm] smorgan joined the chat room. [12:13pm] Patrick_ joined the chat room. [12:13pm] Patrick_: Hello folks. [12:13pm] smorgan was promoted to operator by you. [12:13pm] murph was promoted to operator by you. [12:13pm] Patrick_ was promoted to operator by you. [12:13pm] ardissone: brb [12:15pm] hendy joined the chat room. [12:16pm] kreeger joined the chat room. [12:16pm] hendy was promoted to operator by you. [12:16pm] kreeger was promoted to operator by you. [12:16pm] kreeger left the chat room. (Quit: kreeger) [12:16pm] You are now known as ardissone|foraging. [12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: smorgan: are we expecting pink? [12:17pm] smorgan: Check, but I would guess not [12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: k [12:19pm] smorgan: guesses wrong [12:19pm] pinkerton joined the chat room. [12:19pm] pinkerton was promoted to operator by chanserv. [12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: hehe [12:19pm] pinkerton: sorry talking to jo [12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: hehe [12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: we have some different faces here this week [12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: so everyone, this is Patrick_ ; Patrick_ , this is everyone else [12:20pm] pinkerton: waves [12:21pm] smorgan is now known as everyone_else. [12:21pm] everyone_else: waves [12:21pm] everyone_else is now known as smorgan. [12:21pm] Patrick_: Hello everyone, this will be my second meeting. [12:21pm] smorgan was promoted to operator by chanserv. [12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone please open your 2.0b2 or newer to http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-04-01:Agenda [12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: i'll hit the "other" first [12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: [6:45pm] jeff: did we all see: http://tinyurl.com/ccw28s ? [12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: another Camino fan in print [12:23pm] pinkerton: fuck yeah [12:24pm] pinkerton: tweets [12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: [12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: our friend mehmet from bugzilla also left a nice comment on the weekly update: http://www.ardisson.org/afkar/2009/03/31/camino-2009-week-12-13/#comment-6843 [12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: any other fun Camino news of the world? [12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: 2.0b2 [12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: our crash-rate-increase was cut in half this week [12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: back to what it had been for b1 and a1 [12:27pm] pinkerton: that's good [12:27pm] ardissone|foraging: dunno if that's good or bad [12:27pm] pinkerton: did it go back to normal w/out us doing anything? [12:27pm] ardissone|foraging: we had had 4x users than b1, but i don't know what the recent stats are [12:27pm] pinkerton: maybe it was my FixCamino virus [12:27pm] ardissone|foraging: haha [12:28pm] ardissone|foraging: not sure when we get sam back so that we can find out those things [12:28pm] ss: Crash on update/migration maybe? [12:29pm] ardissone|foraging: but about half the crashes are random gecko stuff [12:29pm] ss: ok [12:29pm] ardissone|foraging: most of the rest are random Cocoa-related stuff [12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: nothing jumping out at me [12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else on b2? [12:31pm] ardissone|foraging: in case you missed it, we released 1.6.7 yesterday [12:31pm] ardissone|foraging: it includes the fix for the 0-day [12:32pm] ardissone|foraging: plus several months of other Gecko fixes [12:32pm] pinkerton: i saw the tweet [12:32pm] ardissone|foraging: and lots of fixes from us [12:33pm] ardissone|foraging: nice; someone's doing their job [12:33pm] pinkerton: do we have an intern for that? [12:34pm] ardissone|foraging: probably a !clone [12:34pm] ardissone|foraging: only 4 crashes as of last night, so nothing much to report there [12:35pm] ardissone|foraging: due to talkback suckage, next week will probably be the only week i'll be able to easily see what we're doing there [12:35pm] ardissone|foraging: nothing to report yet on 1.6.8 [12:35pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone else on 1.6.x? [12:36pm] ardissone|foraging: (besides the guy on MacUpdate who thought we were wasting our time with 1.6.x releases because it was less stable than trunk ) [12:37pm] smorgan: Yeah, a few hours to get critical security fixes out was clearly a waste [12:37pm] smorgan: We should definitely take all of our project management direction from people who don't know anything about our development [12:37pm] ilya joined the chat room. [12:38pm] smorgan: Is there likely to be a Gecko for 1.6.8? [12:38pm] ardissone|foraging: at some point, yes [12:38pm] ardissone|foraging: sam thought they might keep landing stuff until December [12:38pm] ardissone|foraging: (i think) [12:38pm] ardissone|foraging: for Tb and distros [12:39pm] ss: We'll keep maintaining Gecko 1.8.1 for Thunderbird until (at least) December. [12:39pm] ss: Aiming for "every two months" releases. [12:39pm] ardissone|foraging: so we can try to match that; every 2 is not so bad as every 4-6wks [12:40pm] ardissone|foraging: SoC [12:40pm] ardissone|foraging: i think we've been doing a better job with press for it this year [12:40pm] ardissone|foraging: (caminobrowser probably should have tweeted it too, but pink did) [12:41pm] ardissone|foraging: we know we have at least Patrick_ interested [12:41pm] pinkerton: i haven't looked at any of the proposals. how are we doign there? [12:41pm] pinkerton: i'm not signed up for mentorship on camino. is someone else? [12:41pm] ardissone|foraging: if you don't know, i doubt anyone else does [12:42pm] ardissone|foraging: erm [12:42pm] pinkerton: heh [12:42pm] smorgan: I applied the other day; need to be cleared through Moz if it hasn't been already [12:42pm] pinkerton: ok [12:42pm] Patrick_: About SoC [12:42pm] pinkerton: i'm mentoring for chromium for sure. not sure if i have time to do it for camino too [12:43pm] Patrick_: I received a public review of my proposal. [12:44pm] Patrick_: It said I should be more specific about my schedule of deliverables. [12:44pm] pinkerton: ok [12:45pm] ardissone|foraging: Patrick_: can you stick around a bit after the meeting and talk about it then? [12:46pm] Patrick_: Yes [12:46pm] ardissone|foraging: would like to try to get us through the 2.0 stuff by 1 [12:46pm] ardissone|foraging: ok [12:46pm] ardissone|foraging: murph: any updates on anti-phishing? [12:47pm] ilya was promoted to operator by you. [12:47pm] murph: ardissone|foraging: I am actually finishing up my fixes to the tab drag performance patch first [12:47pm] murph: I should be done that very shortly [12:47pm] ardissone|foraging: ok [12:47pm] murph: and after that I'm going to implement the phishing transient bar, which shouldn't take too much code [12:48pm] ardissone|foraging: do you think the perf patch will fix those two 10.4 bugs? [12:48pm] murph: Actually, which bugs do you mean? [12:49pm] ardissone|foraging: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=485508 [12:49pm] ardissone|foraging: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=485509 [12:49pm] Patrick_: Be right back. [12:49pm] ardissone|foraging: while he looks at those [12:49pm] Patrick_ left the chat room. (Quit: Patrick_) [12:49pm] ardissone|foraging: smorgan: any news on breakpad? [12:50pm] smorgan: The bad news I haven't really worked on it since I was traveling. [12:50pm] murph: Yeah, it actually should fix the second one, for sure I would think [12:50pm] smorgan: But the good news: [12:50pm] smorgan: http://code.google.com/p/google-breakpad/source/detail?r=322 [12:50pm] ardissone|foraging: awesome [12:50pm] smorgan: Assuming this does everything I think, I could be done by the end of the week [12:50pm] ardissone|foraging: [12:51pm] ardissone|foraging: chromium+google++ [12:51pm] pinkerton: yay! [12:52pm] ardissone|foraging: murph: that's good; can you dust off the iBook and check them both at some point? [12:52pm] murph: yep, I sure can [12:52pm] ardissone|foraging: [12:52pm] murph: I'll make sure to solve the first one too, my patch might do it [12:53pm] ardissone|foraging: jeff's working on a presentation and has 2 big tests tomorrow [12:53pm] ardissone|foraging: but he says then he'll get back to his patches [12:53pm] ardissone|foraging: he said he's also considering SoC [12:53pm] pinkerton: cool [12:54pm] ardissone|foraging: hendy: UTF-8, applescript and flashblock [12:54pm] hendy: yep [12:55pm] hendy: i'm going to bust out my hillegas today and write a formatter for the utf-8 stuff [12:55pm] kreeger joined the chat room. [12:55pm] ardissone|foraging: the other two are both waiting for sr, right? [12:55pm] kreeger was promoted to operator by you. [12:55pm] hendy: yes [12:56pm] ardissone|foraging: and the other night i applied the old next utf-8 patch and pointed out some bugs in it, which i think you have fixed in your tree [12:56pm] ardissone|foraging: (typing in autocomplete, for all our non-Roman friends) [12:57pm] hendy: yes, and i'll upload that patch once the other bug is fixed [12:57pm] ardissone|foraging: so we can see the light at the end of the UTF-8 tunnel shortly [12:57pm] ardissone|foraging: [12:57pm] hendy: it will probably involve using the formatter [12:58pm] ardissone|foraging: code reuse++ [12:58pm] cl: oh, heh, forgot we had a meeting today [12:58pm] pinkerton: oh sorry, didn't realize there were sr's pending [12:58pm] cl: i was taking a nap [12:58pm] ardissone|foraging: pinkerton: yeah, half to each of you [12:58pm] ardissone|foraging: but the tree's closed at the moment [12:59pm] ardissone|foraging: boxset is not running yet [12:59pm] ardissone|foraging: after sam's move [12:59pm] ardissone|foraging: he sa\ys tonight or tomorrow [12:59pm] ardissone|foraging: crazy guy, moving while doing a 0-day release [12:59pm] pinkerton: oh i have 3 [12:59pm] ardissone|foraging: ilya: downloading or other updates? [1:00pm] ilya: nothing right now, but hoping to do a few small patches later in the week [1:00pm] cl: right, so i just have one thing for today's meeting and i have to run, but real quick, i'd just like smorgan and pinkerton to take a look at that pointer deref bug when they get a chance and let me know which of those various situations we should worry about fixing [1:00pm] pinkerton: url? [1:00pm] ardissone|foraging: it's in your queue [1:01pm] ardissone|foraging: "queue placeholder" or something [1:01pm] Patrick_ joined the chat room. [1:01pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else on 2.0? [1:02pm] pinkerton: ah yes it is [1:02pm] ardissone|foraging: we didn't fix any bugs the last week, mostly due to tree+release+travel (l10n fixed 2), but we did grow the sr queue and keep the r queue steady [1:02pm] pinkerton: eegads [1:03pm] ardissone|foraging: meaning we are working, at least :) [1:03pm] hendy: pinkerton: thanks [1:03pm] pinkerton: yeh, i don't have time to audit that list this week, i'm afraid [1:04pm] pinkerton: other sr's clear [1:04pm] ardissone|foraging: :D [1:05pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else this week? [1:05pm] ardissone|foraging: ok then [1:06pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone have a good week, and keep up the good work on those patches :D [1:06pm] ardissone|foraging: (and reviews ;) )