Status Meetings:2009-10-21:Log

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[12:05pm] ardissone|foraging: couple of mins to see if murph shows up
[12:09pm] ardissone|foraging: ok
[12:10pm] ardissone|foraging: bug
[12:10pm] ardissone|foraging: er
[12:10pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone open your 2.0b4 or later to
[12:11pm] ardissone|foraging: Speaking of b4, it's déjà vu crash week 
[12:12pm] ardissone|foraging: particularly troubling is the return of swizzling showing up in crashes
[12:12pm] ardissone|foraging: we hadn't seen it forever, and now all of the sudden it's all over the place
[12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: also more crashes trying to add our toolbar items when 1Passwd is installed, so we need to hope they'll fix their mess
[12:14pm] pinkerton: heh
[12:15pm] ardissone|foraging: the only good news is that crashes #2 and #3 are fixed in post-b4 builds
[12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: yay leaning on josh, yay stuart
[12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone with anything else on b4?
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: 1.6.10
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: nothing really actionable on the crashes
[12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: plug-ins suck, generally
[12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: on the 1.6.11 front, we're building a list of fixes to take
[12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: some fun cookies bugs 
[12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else on 1.6.x?
[12:20pm] smorgan: Still haven't had time to look at the crash
[12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: hopefully the next won't be for a bit after 2.0 is out
[12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: it's not scheduled on the Releases page, so...
[12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: ok, 2.0
[12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: we still have an annoying focus bug that breaks our attempts to make the blocked site overlay keyboard-friendly
[12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: only when the blocked site is loaded by clicking a link from another site 
[12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: hendy said last night he could try and take a look, but no promises
[12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: tabsposé: smorgan fixed one of the worst keyboard bugs with it
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: so in most cases it won't send focus to a blackhole on closing
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging:
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: no sign of jeff, though
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: smorgan: have you had any more time to look at the actual loop bug?
[12:27pm] You are now known as ardissone.
[12:27pm] smorgan: Not yet
[12:27pm] ardissone: k
[12:27pm] smorgan: Hopefully today or tomorrow
[12:28pm] smorgan: But I'm not sure
[12:28pm] ardissone: ok
[12:28pm] smorgan: (May have to wait for 2.0.1)
[12:28pm] ardissone: i think i'm ok with that, since the focus blackhole is fixed
[12:29pm] ardissone: on the breakpad front
[12:30pm] ardissone: Would Google like our Localizable.strings translations?
[12:30pm] smorgan: I'm not sure, but hopefully; couldn't hurt to open a bug and attach them
[12:30pm] ardissone: ok
[12:31pm] ardissone: some of the guys were surprised there were no translations upstream
[12:32pm] ardissone: no comments whatsoever about the tab bar on 10.4, so i think we're good there 
[12:32pm] ardissone: ss: poke one last time about Downloads window icons 
[12:34pm] pinkerton: shower, got a 1pm
[12:34pm] ardissone: we have bug on figuring out what to do about a privacy policy for our pseudo-about:rights
[12:35pm] ardissone: it looks like SeaMonkey just copied the Firefox policy and removed the parts about Safe Browsing
[12:35pm] smorgan: So we should do the opposite? 
[12:35pm] ardissone: remove the parts about firefox? 
[12:36pm] ardissone: and add-ons and Mozilla Software Update and Google Location and....
[12:36pm] smorgan: Right, everything but Safe Browsing
[12:36pm] smorgan: Although we should add a blurb about auto-update I guess
[12:36pm] ardissone: we need to have something
[12:36pm] ardissone: yeah
[12:37pm] ardissone: i've started work on the rest of the website updates
[12:37pm] ardissone: slow going so far; lots of other stuff going on here
[12:38pm] ardissone: l10n
[12:38pm] ardissone:
[12:38pm] ardissone: "green is good, pink is bad"
[12:38pm] ardissone: we're losing 4 locales from 1.6.x; pl, pt, ca, cs
[12:39pm] ardissone: we'll have two new ones, da and tr
[12:39pm] smorgan: Luckly those 4 weren't too big
[12:40pm] ardissone: German and French are still worries; German should be closer than what's reported, but i don't have a number, so that's just the last number reported
[12:40pm] smorgan: (and I imagine the canadians will be able to manage with American English)
[12:40pm] ardissone: ca is Catalan 
[12:40pm] smorgan: Oh, right. en-ca is canadian
[12:41pm] smorgan: I was thinking of TLDs
[12:41pm] ardissone: yeah, annoying when they don't match
[12:41pm] ardissone: ca-AD, ca-ES, ca-FR
[12:42pm] ardissone: (mostly .ad)
[12:42pm] smorgan: Well, hopefully someone missing those languages in 2.0 will step up for a 2.0.x
[12:42pm] ardissone: i'm going to try and get a post out this week about the arrival of Danish and Turkish and mention the missing ones
[12:43pm] ardissone: but we've been trying to get someone to fill in for pt since mid-summer 
[12:43pm] smorgan: Recent numbers put those 4 at 0.5% of usage, total
[12:44pm] ardissone: wow, i thought pt was more popular
[12:44pm] ardissone: anyway, like to look towards building this weekend or early next week?
[12:45pm] ardissone: we have a bunch of bugs in flight that it would be good to tie up and take
[12:45pm] smorgan: Let's say Monday
[12:45pm] ardissone: (cookies  )
[12:45pm] ardissone: ok
[12:46pm] smorgan: I can see what I can get to over the weekend, we can make pinkerton do a round of srs, and then build what we have
[12:46pm] ardissone: sounds good
[12:46pm] ardissone: i don't know where sam stands on implementing the website re-design
[12:47pm] ardissone: that's the only other unknown
[12:47pm] ardissone: he can do it in a week, right 
[12:48pm] ardissone: we've got fixes from cl and hendy in the queues this week, which is a happy change from "ardissone and smorgan" 
[12:50pm] ardissone: nothing that's left is a real critical bug (though the cookies sheet thing sucks for cookie-control people)
[12:50pm] ardissone: s/sheet/cascading dialogues/
[12:50pm] smorgan: I looked again and got nowhere
[12:51pm] ardissone: the cookies sheet thing is fixed, pending sr
[12:51pm] ardissone: :(
[12:51pm] ardissone: ok
[12:51pm] ardissone: too bad we can't steal mento to be aghast at the state of the Cocoa appshell 
[12:52pm] ardissone: anyway :P
[12:52pm] ardissone: anything else on 2.0?
[12:53pm] pinkerton: cookie sheet bug sr'd
[12:53pm] smorgan: yay!
[12:53pm] ardissone: :D
[12:53pm] smorgan: Can you do import/export this weekend by any chance?
[12:53pm] smorgan: Would be kind of nice to get for 2.0 since it gives Opera 10 import
[12:54pm] ardissone: for all those poor souls who followed Hicks to Oslo ;)
[12:55pm] pinkerton: ha
[12:56pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on anything else?
[12:57pm] ardissone: ok
[12:58pm] ardissone: everyone have a good week, work on those 2.0 bugs and (super)reviews, and here's to Monday!