Status Meetings:2009-12-09:Log
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[01:26am] You were promoted to operator by ChanServ. [01:27am] You changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-12-09:Agenda". [01:27am] cl|zzz was promoted to operator by you. [04:30am] DavidM joined the chat room. [04:39am] cl|zzz is now known as cl. [05:13am] cl left the chat room. (Quit: cl) [09:45am] DavidM left the chat room. (Quit: DavidM) [12:11pm] You are now known as ardissone|foraging. [12:11pm] hendy was promoted to operator by you. [12:11pm] smorgan was promoted to operator by you. [12:12pm] murph joined the chat room. [12:12pm] murph was promoted to operator by you. [12:12pm] ardissone|foraging: sorry, slow morning today [12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: any pink, or is he all worn out? [12:13pm] smorgan: checking now [12:16pm] smorgan: No answer, so maybe we should press on [12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: k [12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: in case you were under a rock yesterday, pink, smorgan, mento and co had a big release, so congrats (and a second flame-shield) to them [12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone open http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-12-09:Agenda in your 2.something [12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: 2.0.1 went out on Friday [12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: it missed most of the press cycles (e.g., showed up on Macintouch on Sat, which no one reads) [12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: so less hubub on the internet (but also it's a .0.1) [12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: there are still some people who should know better who are just complaining vaguely to the ether instead of filing bugs [12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: Crashes are much, much better [12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: still hard to calibrate the new system, and we have less days under our belt here [12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: the good news is Flash is back in #1 and #2 [12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: Release Flash crashes us 25% of the time, Beta Flash another 11% [12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: so all is well in the world [12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: Then the nsNativeThemeCocoa [12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: Weird CFQSortArray crash while idling on 10.6, perhaps related to the appshell or runloop [12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: then something in the docshell related to loading history entries, according to the function name [12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: and then Divx+WebKit zapping the autorelease pool out from under us [12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: smichaud landed a gross hack and caused regressions on 1.9.something; i assume it's unlikely it'll land on 1.9.0 ever [12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: The MacOSFontEntry crash has indeed vanished, and the other persistent startup crashes are lower, probably because affected people aren't trying to launch anymore [12:27pm] ardissone|foraging: anything else on 2.0.1? [12:29pm] ardissone|foraging: We've (sam/philippe) banged out most of the biggest issues with the website, but be sure to file bugs if you see anything [12:29pm] ardissone|foraging: on the 1.6.10 front [12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: Only 40 crashes since last week [12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: so everyone who's sane has moved on to 2.0.x, even the PPC users [12:31pm] ardissone|foraging: and I'm so tired of dealing with those crappy reports that i'm not going to dig in to them 10 weeks after a release [12:31pm] smorgan: Other than 10.3 users, presumably 1.6 is just people who can't be bothered to file bugs about problems with 2.0 and are waiting for us to magically intuit and fix them [12:31pm] ardissone|foraging: right [12:33pm] ardissone|foraging: for 1.6.11, everything that we'll take has landed, except for maybe taking the "click changes warning text color" [12:34pm] ardissone|foraging: we'll look at a schedule for it after the new year [12:34pm] ardissone|foraging: and have an EOL party [12:35pm] ardissone|foraging: anything else on 1.6.x? [12:35pm] ardissone|foraging: (besides "shoot it already"?) [12:36pm] ardissone|foraging: for 2.0.2, we've got two of our wanted patches in-flight; the non-1.8-gamma bookmark colors [12:36pm] ardissone|foraging: and the Google Norwegian language code [12:37pm] ardissone|foraging: there's one more thing i want to try for localizing the rest of the cert error stuff and then i'm giving it up, at least until 1.9.x when we can write our own module [12:38pm] ardissone|foraging: anything else on 2.0.x? [12:39pm] ardissone|foraging: 2.1-stuff [12:40pm] ardissone|foraging: i still haven't gone through and started putting targets on stuff on the 2.1 planning list (and no one's added anything to it) [12:40pm] ardissone|foraging: hendy: any news on your history stuff? [12:41pm] hendy: about:config is the priority at the moment, but i should be able to get back onto history later today [12:41pm] hendy: mostly now it's getting HistoryDataSource to use places [12:42pm] ardissone|foraging: k [12:42pm] hendy: after that, we can look into optimizing it if possible [12:42pm] ardissone|foraging: hehe [12:42pm] ardissone|foraging: murph: any news from you? [12:43pm] murph: hey guys, hmm nothing too major but I do want to find the time to follow up on some of my features [12:43pm] murph: tab drag scrolling for one, I know we wanted [12:44pm] ardissone|foraging: [12:45pm] ardissone|foraging: ilya said after this week(?) he'll have some time again to poke some dl bugs [12:45pm] ardissone|foraging: but it is that time of the year, so i expect us to continue to be slow through the new year [12:46pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else to add? [12:47pm] ardissone|foraging: oh, we never got those crash IDs from pink, did we? [12:48pm] smorgan: I don't think so [12:50pm] ardissone|foraging: bad project lead ;) [12:51pm] ardissone|foraging: oh, the other thing for 2.0.2 is bug 532186 - Flash exceptions list does not accept input of full URLs etc [12:51pm] hendy: it's on my radar [12:51pm] ardissone|foraging: ok [12:52pm] ardissone|foraging: was thinking maybe we could get cl to do it when he wasn't flying [12:52pm] ardissone|foraging: to keep you on history [12:52pm] hendy: i'm not opposed to that [12:52pm] ardissone|foraging: we'll chat with him when he lands :) [12:53pm] ardissone|foraging: OK then [12:53pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone work on your 2.1 and 2.0.2 bugs and reviews and have a good week :)