Status Meetings:2010-05-26:Log

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Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-05-26 15:30:13 -0400

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16:02 smorgan: Sorry, I forgot it was wednesday; I can't stay today
16:02 smorgan: And no pink
16:02 ardissone: k
16:03 ardissone: brb, and we'll try to be fast again today
16:07 ardissone: ok
16:07 ardissone:
16:07 ardissone: we released 2.0.3 today!
16:07 David: yay
16:08 David: Next step, world domination!
16:08 ardissone: 13wks after 2.0.2, which was a bit too long :(
16:08 ardissone: 2.0.4, main thing on the docket now is flash exceptions list
16:08 ardissone: also markus's printing patch is ready
16:08 ardissone: s/printing/print settings/
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16:09 ardissone: anything else on 2.0.x?
16:09 ardissone: on the 2.1 front
16:09 ardissone: smichaud's "better IdleTimerVector hack" landed on 1.9.2 this am :)
16:09 ardissone: so, tomorrow dogfoodable nightlies :D
16:10 hendy: sweet
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16:10 ardissone: question: do we want to switch the "nightly build dl" on cbo to 1.9.2 builds?
16:11 hendy: as long as people are aware of its shortcomings, i'd be happy with that
16:11 ardissone: also, the big thing we need to get fixed next for 1.9.2 builds are symbols
16:11 ardissone: was hoping smorgan could unravel that mess :(
16:11 ardissone: i've tried a couple of things with no success so far
16:12 ardissone: smorgan: are you still here, or have you left and are just lurking? :)
16:12 ardissone: guesses it's the latter
16:13 ardissone: back to the nightly dl link
16:14 ardissone: i'm not sure how aware people are ;)
16:14 ardissone: we haven't had really sketchy nightlies for a long time
16:15 ardissone: not since 1.9 dev started on the trunk after 1.8 split, which was 2005 :P
16:15 David: People that would use the nightlies are probably also active on the forum, and in that case they definately know of the shortcommings..
16:15 ardissone: we have a lot of nightly users we don't ever (visibly) see on the forum
16:16 hendy: like my flatmate
16:16 ardissone: like random people we see in bugzilla, too
16:17 ardissone: big things, i guess, are fayt and focus
16:18 ardissone: and that missing about:config context menu :P
16:19 ardissone: we can hold off for a bit, but not forever :P
16:19 ardissone: anyway, tomorrow, dogfoodable nightlies!
16:20 ardissone: i'll push the experimental users over via swupdate
16:21 ardissone: i haven't looked at Core bugs in ~2days
16:21 ardissone: josh should be back, but I haven't seen if there's been progress on the things we poked him about
16:21 ardissone: mstange's print settings patch landed; thanks again :)
16:22 ardissone: hendy: any updates from you?
16:22 hendy: not really. been really busy with other stuff.
16:22 ardissone: k
16:22 hendy: i'm moving slowly with the exceptions list when i get the chance.
16:23 ardissone: :)
16:23 ardissone: i did try to look at the "lying macros" bug, but offhand it looked more complex to me than i thought
16:24 ardissone:
16:24 ardissone: other than that, i was mainly in release mode since last meeting
16:25 ardissone: next up for me is upstreaming our l10ns to Breakpad
16:25 ardissone: i promised l10n I'd drive that a long time ago and got caught up with other things
16:26 ardissone: hopefully Dan will be back in a week or so to resume hacking on autocomplete
16:26 ardissone: smorgan's got a couple of small fixes waiting on pink to sr
16:27 ardissone: anything else on 2.1 or 1.9.2?
16:28 ardissone: the other thing that we need to do soon is really press on the UNCOs
16:29 » mstange left the chat room.
16:29 ardissone: once we've got 1.9.2 builds out, we can also have users test against them
16:29 ardissone: maybe cl can drive that ;)
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16:30 ardissone: we have 77 right now
16:30 » Wevah was promoted to operator by ardissone.
16:31 ardissone: (or Wevah :P )
16:31 Wevah: huh what
16:31 ardissone: most of the growth this week has been pierre filing ad-blocking bugs
16:31 ardissone: driving down UNCOs ;) :P
16:32 ardissone: so phiw and I just need to confirm them, and there's a scheduled ad-blocking update soon
16:32 ardissone: which will help some
16:33 ardissone: Sam did fix (kill) the crazy vpnd on cb-x4
16:33 ardissone: but, alas, that did not fix the Ts regression
16:33 ardissone: so something else is still wrong on that box
16:34 ardissone: Wevah: can you do bug ?
16:35 ardissone: or maybe bug ?
16:35 Wevah: probably; any special reason it should be me? or just spreading out the work?
16:35 ardissone: looking at the 2.1 list looking for pure-Cocoa bugs
16:36 ardissone: the latter; non-Gecko stuff I can't do ;)
16:36 ardissone: s/I/that I/
16:36 Wevah: instead of doing it by index or nib reference one could just iterate through the main menu and compare submenus to -[NSApp helpMenu]
16:36 Wevah: or well
16:36 Wevah: just use [NSApp helpMenu] ..
16:36 Wevah: oh wait that's 10.6+ -_-
16:36 Wevah: nevermind
16:37 ardissone: we have to tell NSApp what the helpMenu is, is the whole problem ;)
16:37 Wevah: not really awake today
16:37 ardissone: hehe
16:37 Wevah: right
16:37 Wevah: an iboutlet would probably be the best option then, yeah
16:38 ardissone: but the 2.1-targeted list has a number of bugs that should be easy for actual Cocoa programmers
16:38 ardissone: and it would be good to knock some of them out if we can ;)
16:38 Wevah: yeah
16:38 Wevah: i don't know how quickly i'd be able to get to things though :/
16:39 Wevah: (plus i'm going out of town this weekend)
16:39 ardissone: heh
16:39 ardissone: i didn't mean today ;)
16:39 ardissone: but if you could look at them in the next couple weeks maybe
16:40 ardissone: the more warm bodies with programming knowledge, the better ;)
16:40 ardissone: anyone have anything else today?
16:43 ardissone: ok then
16:43 ardissone: everyone please work on 2.1 bugs/reviews, and have a good week :)
16:46 Wevah: yar
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