Status Meetings:2010-06-23:Log

Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-06-23 15:46:27 -0400

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16:01	ardissone:	let's give a couple of minutes to see if hendy's awake
16:04	ardissone:	ok
16:04	ardissone:	http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-06-23:Agenda
16:04	ardissone:	We've hit the 4wk point on 2.0.3
16:05	ardissone:	crashes are starting to sort into the usual pattern
16:06	ardissone:	the null signature crashes are slowly working their way off the charts, but there are still issues there
16:07	ardissone:	either Flash 10.1 is much less crashy, or our users really aren't upgrading to it :P
16:07	ardissone:	my money's on the latter :P
16:08	ardissone:	the KeychainBrowserListener crash got a bit of a bump this week
16:08	ardissone:	my kingdom for a reproducible testcase :P
16:10	ardissone:	smorgan: can you put "poking whomever needs to be poked for accepting the breakpad l10ns" on your list?
16:10	smorgan:	Yes
16:10	ardissone:	ty :)
16:11	ardissone:	anyone have anything else on 2.0.3?
16:12	ardissone:	aside from tweeting during North Korea World Cup games, there's been no sign of Sam or stats in a while :P
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16:13	ardissone:	i'd sort of like to see some post-2.0.3 stats, but maybe we should just push a fake update to 1.6.x people right now anyway?
16:15	ardissone:	no thoughts on that? ;)
16:15	smorgan:	Couldn't hurt
16:16	ardissone:	what do we need to do in order to do that?
16:17	smorgan:	Clone the 2.0.3 definition, tweak it to apply to 1.6-only (I forget what the syntax is; I'd have to look it up), and then write a description with flashing orange on purple
16:17	smorgan:	Or whatever we are doing to draw attention to it
16:17	ardissone:	haha
16:17	ardissone:	k
16:18	ardissone:	i'll file a bug, i guess
16:18	smorgan:	We'll want to keep it tracking the latest release, of course
16:18	smorgan:	So when people give in, they don't immediately have to update again
16:18	ardissone:	mhm
16:19	ardissone:	i can add it to the release checklist once it's there
16:19	smorgan:	Oh, and we should make 2.0.3+ be 2.0 only once we have this
16:19	smorgan:	So we are sure we serve the right one to 1.6 users
16:19	ardissone:	mhm
16:20	ardissone:	is there a value for that currently?
16:20	ardissone:	we're not currently setting something like MinCmVersion, only MinOSVersion
16:21	smorgan:	I think so, let me check
16:21	ardissone:	i see it
16:21	ardissone:	MInCaminoVersionString?
16:21	smorgan:	That's the one
16:21	smorgan:	Oh, but there's no max
16:22	smorgan:	We'll need that as part of this then
16:22	ardissone:	oh, right
16:22	ardissone:	ok
16:22	ardissone:	we can finish hashing out what's missing in the bug ;)
16:23	ardissone:	on to 2.0.4
16:23	ardissone:	not a lot of progress here on bugs yet
16:24	ardissone:	mid/late July would be about 2mo since 2.0.3
16:24	ardissone:	so it would be a good time to shoot for
16:24	smorgan:	The Gecko train has rolled to a stop, right?
16:25	ardissone:	sort-of
16:25	ardissone:	it's not being actively maintained
16:25	ardissone:	Mats landed some stuff the other day
16:25	ardissone:	and there are still flags for 1.9.0.next
16:26	ardissone:	so we can flag the JEP update that missed the train, for instance
16:26	ardissone:	but there will be no more MoCo Firefox releases
16:27	ardissone:	and nobody doing backports
16:27	ardissone:	so we really want to get a 1.9.2-based release out there ;)
16:28	ardissone:	in terms of open, semi-active bugs for 2.0.4
16:28	ardissone:	hendy: any update on the Flashblock whitelist validation stuff?
16:29	hendy:	no, sorry :(
16:29	ardissone:	k
16:30	ardissone:	the other thing we should talk about is bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572487
16:30	ardissone:	we shouldn't unescape % and a number of zero-width/space-like characters
16:30	ardissone:	fixing % and a few of the latter ones are pretty easy
16:31	ardissone:	but there's one block that's 256 codepoints long
16:31	ardissone:	NSMutableCharacterSet has a way to add codepoints by range, but no way to become an NSString
16:32	ardissone:	NSString has no way to add codepoints by range
16:32	smorgan:	codepoints?
16:32	ardissone:	unicode characters
16:33	ardissone:	"letters"
16:33	smorgan:	ah
16:34	ardissone:	worst-case, for 2.0.4 we fix % and the others that aren't long ranges, I guess, or I just type out a 256-\uXXXXX long string by hand :P
16:34	smorgan:	Or use a loop
16:35	ardissone:	that sounds maybe a bit like what hendy said last night which went over my head :)
16:35	smorgan:	I'm not 100% sure what we're trying to do here though; I'll look at the bug more later
16:35	ardissone:	sure :)
16:36	ardissone:	the zero-width/space-like part is a spoofing concern, apparently
16:36	ardissone:	and a Safari/Firefox parity issue
16:36	ardissone:	as for %, that just breaks stuff ;)
16:36	smorgan:	okay
16:37	ardissone:	ok, anything else on 2.04?
16:38	ardissone:	2.1
16:38	ardissone:	smorgan debugged the big focus issue :D
16:38	ardissone:	and we have a work-around on the Camino level
16:38	smorgan:	Can we kill CVS now?
16:39	ardissone:	can we land it? ;)
16:39	smorgan:	Yeah, sorry. Hopefully I'll get to that tonight
16:39	smorgan:	Or if you are bored, feel free
16:39	ardissone:	no worries
16:40	ardissone:	but once that's in, that's the biggest regression we have "control" over
16:40	ardissone:	still waiting for branch approvals to open up, e.g. for the key events stuff
16:40	ardissone:	they finally shipped 3.6.4, so in theory stuff should open for real soon
16:42	ardissone:	i have not heard back from Dan still
16:42	ardissone:	it's been a week and some change since I last emailed him
16:43	ardissone:	so for the moment, that doesn't bode well for his return and making autocomplete perf/behavior not suck :(
16:44	ardissone:	though we'll be a lot better behaved now if you accidentally paste an entire file into the location bar!
16:45	smorgan:	I'll try to take a look at where the patch was
16:45	smorgan:	I forget the current state
16:45	ardissone:	ok
16:45	ardissone:	me too :(
16:45	smorgan:	If there's not much left I can probably finish it up
16:45	ardissone:	i think Dan thought it was close
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16:46	ardissone:	but that'll get us to an alpha
16:47	ardissone:	anyone else have anything on 2.1?
16:48	ardissone:	ok
16:49	ardissone:	so we're getting much closer
16:49	ardissone:	pink cleared his sr queue, so there are a number of patches ready to land
16:49	pinkerton:	:D
16:49	ardissone:	even though the actual landings this week were low
16:51	ardissone:	oh, the null checks
16:52	ardissone:	that's the other blocker left for a1
16:53	ardissone:	in other news, they finally gave in and decided that 1.9.3 is the new 2.0
16:53	ardissone:	which allows all promises to be broken from there on out :P
16:54	ardissone:	anyone have anything else today?
16:55	ardissone:	if you have some time, please do have a look at the 2.1 and 2.1? bugs and see if you can fix any of them:
16:55	ardissone:	https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time
16:55	ardissone:	https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%3F
16:56	ardissone:	(or you can find these links in the agenda)
16:56	ardissone:	more hands on the keyboards always better than fewer ;)
16:57	ardissone:	everyone have a good week and work on those aforementioned bugs :)