View source for Status Meetings:2009-03-04:Agenda

Wed 18 Feb 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 2.0b2
** Released Friday
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009022317&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b2 crashes] — 14 so far)
*** #1 <!--(3)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}}
*** #2 <!--(2)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SystemConfiguration.212.2.0}}
*** #2 <!--(2)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SetStyleSheetReference}}
*** #3 <!--(1)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|Flash%20Player}}
*** #4 <!--(1)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}}
*** Latest swizzles: {{TB|53253501}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53259627}} [nsObjcException], {{TB|53242747}} [nsFrame::Destroy], {{TB|53250277}} [CoreFoundation] <!--
*** Also, OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|51979682}}, {{TB|51970202}}, {{TB|52185198}}, {{TB|52293795}}, {{TB|52430931}}, {{TB|52529031}}, {{TB|52541896}}, {{TB|52761804}}, {{TB|52688239}} [AB] {{TB|52749126}} [AB], {{TB|52877218}}, {{TB|52856409}} [RolloverImageButton], {{TB|52846948}} [AB], {{TB|52899423}}, {{TB|53031023}} [AB] [new])-->
** {{bug|470159}} - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related?
** {{TB|53075806}} - crash in NSS when quitting
* Camino 1.6.6
** Released eleven weeks ago
** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM166/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121219&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.6 crashes] — <!--854-->??? already<!--; that's on par with 1.6.x series, though 1.6.5 was much less crashy-->)
*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 2086<!--
*** #1 is Flash
*** #2 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|libSystem.B}}
*** #3 is Core crash-on-quit ({{bug|349463}})
*** #4 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|CHBrowserView%20contentViewer}} (1Password-related; see {{bug|471681}})
*** #5 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|CoreFoundation}}
*** #6 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|libObjC.A.dylib}}
*** 100s of random hex (many are plugins)-->
** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
** Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
* [[Releases:1.6.7:Links|Camino 1.6.7]]
** Tb-focused release coming mid-March 17-18; NSS upgrade last Fri
** We didn't declare 1.6.6 EOL (no stable release yet); will we declare 1.6.7 or do one last release after 2.0?
** OpenSearch parsing on 10.3 fix landed - {{bug|469236}}
** 1Password-related crash affects 1.6.x and 2.0nx - {{bug|471681}}
** We have a number of general crash bugs that we now have patches for/leads on fixing, so we'd like to take those on 1.6.x as well.
* Camino 2.0
** Rough scoping doc at [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.0]]
*** Need to retriage 2.0 list (and blocking? list) again soon
*** Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b3 and add '''''l10n''''' to the whiteboard
*** Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - {{bug|458205}}; smorgan shaking some trees
**** still waiting on verification that {{bug|471948}} (appshell crash-on-quit) was fixed by Steven's patch few weeks ago
**** Key handling order changed right after b2 to let Camino menus have first crack; we need to make sure there are no unexpected regressions
** Anti-phishing - {{bug|476543}} Ts regression all over (10% on minus); [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=358299&hide_resolved=1 lots of follow-ups]
** Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - {{bug|470159}}
** Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken
** Tabsposé - NSControl, need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access?  WF the single-tab bug?)
** Tab dragging - scroll dragging, perf patch?
** Icon work for 2.0 - Sam promised updates months ago
** breakpad - smorgan writing the reporter client
** Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see [[User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings]])
** UTF-8 - hendy working on bookmarks manager, then autocompletion typing
** Flashblock CM - 
** CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews (needs reviewer)
* Tinderboxen
** boxset - missing from tinderbox yet again {{bug|479999}}
*** currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade {{bug|465212}} - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
*** had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
** What should we do with cb-minimaya01?  Needs HD repair
** cb-x1 starting to die again {{bug|458217}}
*** kernel panic Valentine's weekend[http://pastebin.mozilla.org/623521]
<!--** cb-minimaya running "1.6-M1.8" Ts (65 min dep)
** cb-minibinus running "2.0-M1.9" Ts (45 min dep)
** h-103 running "2.0-M1.9" Ts (14 min dep, 69 min clobber)
** PPC minis need weekly reboots to keep running
** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM-->
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Still not much progress over the past few weeks; reviews piling up from patch progress

==Specific bugs that need action==

=== 2.0b3pre ===
* See 2.0b3? list
* Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with

=== 1.6.7 ===

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** Bookmark bar - {{bug|401340}}
** Tab bar
** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}
*** We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
** Folders (UNCO) - {{bug|436012}}
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**{{bug|318931}} - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on {{bug|438256}}?)
**{{bug|363664}} - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"
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* xpfe cleanup
** see older Agendas if you're interested
<!--** {{bug|389140}} gets us using the right theme files; needs r=mento
** {{bug|428333}} license.html; needs r=mento
** stefanh has a "build finishes, crashes on startup" MOZ_XUL_APP [http://hem.fyristorg.com/s_her/camino/camino-test.diff patch]<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: "<Standard8>stefanh, so, my guess is you need to implement something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/app/ (nsSuiteApp.cpp, application.ini, Makefile.in) somewhere in camino"<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: "stefanh, when you flip the flags, the main things that'll affect you immediately are the startup code, command line handlers and possibly alerts<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: stefanh, so xpfe/components/startup/ -> toolkit/components/commandlines toolkit/components/startup etc"<br>[4:17pm] stefanh: ardissone|ish: feel free to play with the code  :P --> 

==Queries==

===Camino 2.0b3===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b3%3F  Blocking ?]  (16) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} <!-- --> <!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b3%2B  Blocking +]  (3) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- --> <!--  subtract FIXED here-->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b3- Blocking -]  (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!--   -->

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=l10n&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1%3F&field0-0-1=flagtypes.name&type0-0-1=equals&value0-0-1=camino2.0b1%2B&field0-0-2=flagtypes.name&type0-0-2=equals&value0-0-2=camino2.0%3F&field0-0-3=flagtypes.name&type0-0-3=equals&value0-0-3=camino2.0%2B&field0-0-4=target_milestone&type0-0-4=equals&value0-0-4=Camino2.0 l10n]  (10) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}}

===Camino 2.0===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.0]  (21) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} <!-- -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%3F  Blocking ?]  (14) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation) <!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%2B  Blocking +]  (2) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} <!-- (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) subtract FIXED here-->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0- Blocking -]  (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!--  -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target]  (707) {{greyText|['''+3''' since last week]}} '''need a “CLOSEME”/UNCO cleanup''' <!--  -->

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2009-02-25&chfieldto=2009-03-04&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting]  ('''1''') {{greyText|[-3 since last week]}} ('''0''' were 2.0-targeted<!-- , 1 was website, 1 was relnotes -->)

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review]  (14) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} '''2 untargeted''' <!--  -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview]  (2) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} <!-- (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->