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==General Plans==
 
==General Plans==
 
* Camino 1.1 Alpha 1
 
* Camino 1.1 Alpha 1
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** 1 blocker, 2 nominees fixed
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** pop-up blocker still needs work, but its UI is approaching where we want it to be
 +
** kqueue status?
 +
** Still a number of follow-up-to major-landings bugs listed on [[User:Sardisson/Camino_1.1]]
 
* Fixing Core-caused breakage in Camino in a timely fashion
 
* Fixing Core-caused breakage in Camino in a timely fashion
 
** Time it took to get biesi's patch (super)reviewed [4 days], to get xpfe-autocomplete fix (super)reviewed [1 day], to get chardet fix (super)reviewed [3 days]
 
** Time it took to get biesi's patch (super)reviewed [4 days], to get xpfe-autocomplete fix (super)reviewed [1 day], to get chardet fix (super)reviewed [3 days]
** Funky select widgets, missing trunk talkback are out of our hands
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** Funky select widgets ({{bug|350973}}), missing trunk talkback ({{bug|351722}}) are out of our hands
 
** How can we improve?  The problems will only increase as xpfe dies....
 
** How can we improve?  The problems will only increase as xpfe dies....
* What about putting l10ns into Camino source repository? (by [[User:Marcello|Marcello]])
 
** I'd like to spend most of my efforts on the community side of Caminol10n, trying to make it better and more productive. Since I already maintain (in a very clumsy way) a cvs repository of l10n packages and text files, why not put them among Camino's source, so that the ML package might be built directly from that place?
 
** Pros:
 
***I shouldn't work on building and distributing, and I would not be a bottleneck as sometimes happened in the past
 
*** ''Unified Camino build more in line with Mac OS X''
 
** Cons:
 
*** The build system would need be changed
 
*** ''Moving the bottleneck to coordinating cvs checkins''
 
*** ''Out-of-date translations:''
 
**** ''Stale files on development branches (e.g., an out-of-date BrowserWindow.nib will hork that language) [could be worked around by keeping nightlies En-only]''
 
**** ''Non-updated l10ns still in cvs across branch changes or emergency new strings on a stable branch (e.g., Pirate 1.0.x never gets updated for 1.x, or in the event string changes are needed for 1.0.x+1)''
 
*: ''additional pros/cons in italics by [[User:sardisson|sardisson]], who'd really like to see a unified Camino build nonetheless''
 
* l10n of license.r on dmg?  Is that feasible tech-wise?
 
 
* We might want to update http://www.caminobrowser.org/development/roadmap/ since the dates for 1.1 and 1.2 have changed
 
* We might want to update http://www.caminobrowser.org/development/roadmap/ since the dates for 1.1 and 1.2 have changed
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* Weekly Bugs and Queues Update
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** smfr kept the sr queue moving swiftly in pink's absence :)
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** r queue in pretty good shape, though everyone has an old bug waiting (zoom and middle-click are desirable for 1.1)
  
 
==Specific bugs that need action==
 
==Specific bugs that need action==
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* {{bug|303193}} - Make error pages look more like Camino/Aqua
 +
** ''Can we come to a final decision on bullets/no bullets and get that landed''
 +
* {{bug|315340}} - show inline tooltip for fields that don't fit instead of dropped location as tooltip vs. {{bug|355167}} - Make bookmark item tooltips have title and url like bookmark buttons.
 +
** ''We need to decide which of these two we want.  If we have inline tooltips, will there be a separate tooltip for title and url, or just one or the other?''
 +
** ''Also, does this affect {{bug|331549}} - Spoken User Interface: When selecting a bookmark in manager, location is read instead of title''?
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* {{bug|290212}} - Implement bookmark folders' "Open in Tabs"/"Open in New Tabs" with alternate menu items
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** ''Specifically, comment 18.  Rebuilding all submenus when the pref changes doesn't seem like a good option, but is there any other?''
  
 
==Queries==
 
==Queries==
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===Camino 1.1a1===
 
===Camino 1.1a1===
  
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===Camino 1.1===
 
===Camino 1.1===
  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.1] <!--(119) {{greyText|[-2 net since last week]}}-->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.1] (116) {{greyText|[-3 net since last week]}}<!---->
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*: The above list needs to be at least spot-audited for potential 1.1 issues
 
*: The above list needs to be at least spot-audited for potential 1.1 issues
  
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==Queues==
 
==Queues==
  
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Latest revision as of 06:53, 4 October 2006

Wed 04 Oct 9am PDT (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

  • Camino 1.1 Alpha 1
    • 1 blocker, 2 nominees fixed
    • pop-up blocker still needs work, but its UI is approaching where we want it to be
    • kqueue status?
    • Still a number of follow-up-to major-landings bugs listed on User:Sardisson/Camino_1.1
  • Fixing Core-caused breakage in Camino in a timely fashion
    • Time it took to get biesi's patch (super)reviewed [4 days], to get xpfe-autocomplete fix (super)reviewed [1 day], to get chardet fix (super)reviewed [3 days]
    • Funky select widgets (Bug 350973), missing trunk talkback (Bug 351722) are out of our hands
    • How can we improve? The problems will only increase as xpfe dies....
  • We might want to update http://www.caminobrowser.org/development/roadmap/ since the dates for 1.1 and 1.2 have changed
  • Weekly Bugs and Queues Update
    • smfr kept the sr queue moving swiftly in pink's absence :)
    • r queue in pretty good shape, though everyone has an old bug waiting (zoom and middle-click are desirable for 1.1)

Specific bugs that need action

  • Bug 303193 - Make error pages look more like Camino/Aqua
    • Can we come to a final decision on bullets/no bullets and get that landed
  • Bug 315340 - show inline tooltip for fields that don't fit instead of dropped location as tooltip vs. Bug 355167 - Make bookmark item tooltips have title and url like bookmark buttons.
    • We need to decide which of these two we want. If we have inline tooltips, will there be a separate tooltip for title and url, or just one or the other?
    • Also, does this affect Bug 331549 - Spoken User Interface: When selecting a bookmark in manager, location is read instead of title?
  • Bug 290212 - Implement bookmark folders' "Open in Tabs"/"Open in New Tabs" with alternate menu items
    • Specifically, comment 18. Rebuilding all submenus when the pref changes doesn't seem like a good option, but is there any other?

Queries

Camino 1.1a1

Camino 1.1

Queues