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** nominate any major/dataloss bugs that need to be fixed for a1
 
** nominate any major/dataloss bugs that need to be fixed for a1
 
** please help out with any P1s (see query below)
 
** please help out with any P1s (see query below)
* [[Releases:1.5.2:Links|Camino 1.5.2]]
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* [[Releases:1.5.2:Links|Camino 1.5.2]]/Camino 1.5.3
 
** Released last Fri (Oct 19)
 
** Released last Fri (Oct 19)
 
** 1.5.3/Gecko 1.8.1.9 coming soon to fix serious Gecko regressions
 
** 1.5.3/Gecko 1.8.1.9 coming soon to fix serious Gecko regressions
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** Landed fixes for two bugs that needed xpt pickups (but only for 1_5 yet)
 
** Will try to pick up some l10n fixes/new languages for 1.5.3
 
** Will try to pick up some l10n fixes/new languages for 1.5.3
** Gecko 1.8.1.8 release expected Thurs (Oct 18), pending 10.5 triage
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** Gecko 1.8.1.9 release expected Thurs (Nov 1)
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM152/index.html Talkback]
* [[Releases:1.5.1:Links|Camino 1.5.1]]
 
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM151/index.html Talkback]
 
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*** [http://tinyurl.com/24jo3q 19] of 37 libobjc crashes are known 1passwd crasher; only 3 have email listed, but froodian mailed those 3-->
 
*** [http://tinyurl.com/24jo3q 19] of 37 libobjc crashes are known 1passwd crasher; only 3 have email listed, but froodian mailed those 3-->
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*** 14 of 19 libobjc crashes are 1passwd; only 3 have email listed, but we'll mail them
*** Need to poke libobjc and libSystemB crashes yet to see if anything is useful/new
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*** Flash is #1, libGL (#6) is DiVX, libSystemB (#4, #7) is plugin-related
*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #1 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
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*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #2 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
*** '''NEW''' - Topcrash in [http://tinyurl.com/2pb9c6 CoreFoundation] - seems to be RealPlayer, 3rd party CMs, Flash, asstd.
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*** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino15&platform=All&buildid=2007080914&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement] - {{bug|395916}} (Smokey emailed the two we have an email for, asking for Camino Diagnostics and more info; no replies so far, and #9 in 1.5.2)
*** Topcrashes in 1) DesktopServicesPriv and 2) random hex + Spotlight + DesktopServicesPriv
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*** Topcrashes in 1) DesktopServicesPriv and 2) random hex + Spotlight + DesktopServicesPriv {{greyText|latter not showing yet}}
*** Topcrashes in [http://tinyurl.com/ytwy2t libSystem.B related to site icons]:  [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=36266174 sample]
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*** 1.5.1 leftovers
*** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino15&platform=All&buildid=2007080914&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement] - {{bug|395916}} (Smokey emailed the two we have an email for, asking for Camino Diagnostics and more info; no replies so far, and no longer in top 5)
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** Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything
 
** Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything
 
* Tinderboxen
 
* Tinderboxen
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** cb-x1 will continue running 1.8.0 "for a little while"
 
** cb-x1 will continue running 1.8.0 "for a little while"
 
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
 
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
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** You know the r-drill.
  
 
==Specific bugs that need action==
 
==Specific bugs that need action==
 
=== 1.6a1pre ===
 
=== 1.6a1pre ===
 
* {{bug|185436}} - Software update for release builds
 
* {{bug|185436}} - Software update for release builds
** See [[Development:Planning:Software Update]]
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** Tree approval granted - {{bug|399977}} (will also need to file a about:license change bug)
*** Tree approval granted - {{bug|399977}} (will also need to file a about:license change bug)
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*** {{greyText|XXXsa}} about:license should be enough that we don't need it separately in the readme; other MIT licenses (e.g. JEP) are only there
**** {{greyText|XXXsa}} about:license should be enough that we don't need it separately in the readme; other MIT licenses (e.g. JEP) are only there
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** objdir support
*** What about localization?  Will need to work something out to not build l10n in en-only but get them to l10n teams so they don't have to re-localize
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** framework copy issue
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** localization - will need to work something out to not build l10ns in en-only but get them to l10n teams so they don't have to re-localize
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** EULA - see [http://groups.google.com/group/sparkleplus/browse_thread/thread/3effda7dd51fd282] for a possible method/hack
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** cl found a [http://sparkle.andymatuschak.org/ticket/67 crash bug in sparkle] :p
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*** [12:14am] cl: it's crashing in checkForUpdatesAndNotify: when you cancel an active download, then initiate two update checks rapidly in succession<br>[12:15am] cl: and the stack trace shows the crash in Sparkle code, which leads me to believe it isn't a problem in the app itself.
 
* AppleScript landing follow-up bugs - several of these need to be addressed for 1.6
 
* AppleScript landing follow-up bugs - several of these need to be addressed for 1.6
** {{bug|394821}}: AS snippet is behaving correctly (according to applescript), but can delete bookmark folders unexpectedly.  Do we need to workaround somehow?  Should we release an AS guide with 1.6?
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** {{bug|394821}}: AS snippet is behaving correctly (according to applescript), but can delete bookmark folders unexpectedly.  Do we need to workaround somehow?  Should we release an [[Development:Camino_AppleScript_Guide|AS guide]] with 1.6?
  
 
=== 1.5.3 ===
 
=== 1.5.3 ===
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===Other (if there's time)===
 
===Other (if there's time)===
  
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* Web feed handlers - {{bug|355748}}
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** Do we want to consider shipping mini-apps for 1.5.x or 1.6?  Have some working AS examples.
 
* UNCOs
 
* UNCOs
 
** {{bug|376930}} - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen
 
** {{bug|376930}} - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen
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===Camino 1.6a1===
 
===Camino 1.6a1===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%3F  Blocking ?] <!-- (2) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%3F  Blocking ?] (2) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%2B  Blocking +] <!-- (4) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} subtract FIXED here-->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%2B  Blocking +] (4) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1- Blocking -] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}}<!--  -->
  
 
===Camino 1.6===
 
===Camino 1.6===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] <!-- (38) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] (36) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}}<!--  -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?] <!-- (7) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation) subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?] (6) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation) <!-- subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs] are blocking) subtract FIXED here-->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs] are blocking) <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}}<!--  -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] <!-- (508) {{greyText|[+6 since last week]}} ''cl led an UNCO triage and CLOSEME closing'' '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (509) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} <!-- ''cl led an UNCO triage and CLOSEME closing'' '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->
  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&chfieldfrom=2007-10-10&chfieldto=2007-10-17&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs fixed since last meeting] <!-- ('''1''') {{greyText|[-9 since last week]}} (1.6 P1) , 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&chfieldfrom=2007-10-17&chfieldto=2007-10-24&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''4''') {{greyText|[+3 since last week]}} (1.6-targeted strings cleanup, 1.5.3 relnotes) <!-- , 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) -->
  
 
==Queues==
 
==Queues==
  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] <!-- (9) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} '''4 untargeted''' -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (10) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} '''4 untargeted'''<!--  -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] <!-- (2) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] (4) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} <!-- (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
  
 
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=checkin-needed&chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=checkin-needed&chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=project&chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} --><!--  -->
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=project&chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} --><!--  -->

Latest revision as of 08:12, 24 October 2007

Wed 17 Oct 9am PST (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

  • Camino 1.6
    • Scoping
      • Meet-up additions added to the scoping document and Bugzilla; no pre-meet-up bugs were removed (mostly P3/polish-type bugs and regressions)
      • Fixed bugs on the list currently indicated by strikethrough
      • Most of Tab Scrolling is done, as is AppleScript (P3), but most of other "big" features not underway (at least not "publicly")
        • Tabsposé moved to 2.0 last week
      • jeff has been poking the tab dragging code
      • batwood has patches for both of his 1.6 bugs (update?)
      • murph has patch for search editor (in smorgan's queue) and has mostly wrangled OpenSearch
    • Changes in .strings changes (see Bug 392918 and Bug 382151 and also Development:Reviewing)
    • talk about 10.5 issues next week?
  • Camino 1.6a1
    • Take 3 date is October 24th (that's today!) - status?
    • smorgan is doing software update (see below)
    • mento is doing breakpad (probably not for a1?)
    • nominate any major/dataloss bugs that need to be fixed for a1
    • please help out with any P1s (see query below)
  • Camino 1.5.2/Camino 1.5.3
    • Released last Fri (Oct 19)
    • 1.5.3/Gecko 1.8.1.9 coming soon to fix serious Gecko regressions
    • Landed fixes for two bugs that needed xpt pickups (but only for 1_5 yet)
    • Will try to pick up some l10n fixes/new languages for 1.5.3
    • Gecko 1.8.1.9 release expected Thurs (Nov 1)
    • Talkback
      • 14 of 19 libobjc crashes are 1passwd; only 3 have email listed, but we'll mail them
      • Flash is #1, libGL (#6) is DiVX, libSystemB (#4, #7) is plugin-related
      • Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core Bug 349463) is #2 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
      • nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement - Bug 395916 (Smokey emailed the two we have an email for, asking for Camino Diagnostics and more info; no replies so far, and #9 in 1.5.2)
      • Topcrashes in 1) DesktopServicesPriv and 2) random hex + Spotlight + DesktopServicesPriv latter not showing yet
      • 1.5.1 leftovers
    • Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything
  • Tinderboxen
    • binus is hanging on grey Apple while booting :( (binus is doing 1.5.x coverage and is our 10.3 test box)
    • cb-x1 will continue running 1.8.0 "for a little while"
  • Weekly Bugs and Queues update
    • You know the r-drill.

Specific bugs that need action

1.6a1pre

  • Bug 185436 - Software update for release builds
    • Tree approval granted - Bug 399977 (will also need to file a about:license change bug)
      • XXXsa about:license should be enough that we don't need it separately in the readme; other MIT licenses (e.g. JEP) are only there
    • objdir support
    • framework copy issue
    • localization - will need to work something out to not build l10ns in en-only but get them to l10n teams so they don't have to re-localize
    • EULA - see [1] for a possible method/hack
    • cl found a crash bug in sparkle :p
      • [12:14am] cl: it's crashing in checkForUpdatesAndNotify: when you cancel an active download, then initiate two update checks rapidly in succession
        [12:15am] cl: and the stack trace shows the crash in Sparkle code, which leads me to believe it isn't a problem in the app itself.
  • AppleScript landing follow-up bugs - several of these need to be addressed for 1.6
    • Bug 394821: AS snippet is behaving correctly (according to applescript), but can delete bookmark folders unexpectedly. Do we need to workaround somehow? Should we release an AS guide with 1.6?

1.5.3

  • Coming soon to fix Gecko regressions

Other (if there's time)

  • Web feed handlers - Bug 355748
    • Do we want to consider shipping mini-apps for 1.5.x or 1.6? Have some working AS examples.
  • UNCOs
    • Bug 376930 - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen
      • Need to find a way to "promote" this as an area we'd like user feedback on in 1.6a1
  • Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they're Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.

Queries

Camino 1.6a1

Camino 1.6

Queues