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*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #2 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
 
*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #2 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
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** Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything
 
** Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything
 
* 10.5 Issues - which will we fix for 1.5.x?
 
* 10.5 Issues - which will we fix for 1.5.x?
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** Bugs
 
** Bugs
 
*** Default apps - {{bug|401392}}
 
*** Default apps - {{bug|401392}}
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*** LSFileQuarantineExclusions seems not to be working (see comments in {{bug|393515}})
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** Building
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*** Not currently possible to build Camino with the 10.5 SDK - {{bug|401812}}, {{bug|401817}}
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*** Not currently possible to build PPC with gcc 3.3/10.3.9 SDK - {{bug|400165}}, {{bug|401768}}
 
* Tinderboxen
 
* Tinderboxen
 
** linear-ish T* increases on boxset
 
** linear-ish T* increases on boxset
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** cb-x1 will continue running 1.8.0 "for a little while"
 
** cb-x1 will continue running 1.8.0 "for a little while"
 
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
 
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
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** hackfest this weekend filled the queues
  
 
==Specific bugs that need action==
 
==Specific bugs that need action==
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** EULA -  {{bug|401021}} - see [http://groups.google.com/group/sparkleplus/browse_thread/thread/3effda7dd51fd282] for a possible method/hack
 
** EULA -  {{bug|401021}} - see [http://groups.google.com/group/sparkleplus/browse_thread/thread/3effda7dd51fd282] for a possible method/hack
 
** appcast - {{bug|401474}}
 
** appcast - {{bug|401474}}
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* {{bug|361103}} - When scrolling tabs, buttons should be disabled once the end of the bar is reached (before mouse up)
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** In theory P1 UI bugs are all to be fixed for a1
  
 
=== 1.5.3 ===
 
=== 1.5.3 ===
  
 
* Coming soon to fix Gecko regressions
 
* Coming soon to fix Gecko regressions
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==== Leopard ====
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* {{bug|401340}} - what to do w/ bookmark bar
  
 
===Other (if there's time)===
 
===Other (if there's time)===
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** {{bug|401383}}, {{bug|401328}} - tab bleeding not fixed for Camino, caused white rectangle, too; needs someone who can do some debugging
 
** {{bug|401383}}, {{bug|401328}} - tab bleeding not fixed for Camino, caused white rectangle, too; needs someone who can do some debugging
 
** Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they're Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.
 
** Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they're Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.
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** xpfe cleanup
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*** {{bug|383085}} has a patch to remove a number of xpfe directories
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*** stefanh has a "build finishes, crashes on startup" MOZ_XUL_APP [http://hem.fyristorg.com/s_her/camino/camino-test.diff patch]<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: "<Standard8>stefanh, so, my guess is you need to implement something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/app/ (nsSuiteApp.cpp, application.ini, Makefile.in) somewhere in camino"<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: "stefanh, when you flip the flags, the main things that'll affect you immediately are the startup code, command line handlers and possibly alerts<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: stefanh, so xpfe/components/startup/ -> toolkit/components/commandlines toolkit/components/startup etc"<br>[4:17pm] stefanh: ardissone|ish: feel free to play with the code  :P
  
 
==Queries==
 
==Queries==
  
 
===Camino 1.6a1===
 
===Camino 1.6a1===
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%3F  Blocking ?] <!-- (2) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%3F  Blocking ?] (2) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%2B  Blocking +] <!-- (4) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} subtract FIXED here-->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%2B  Blocking +] (2) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}} {{greyText|not including some parts of swupdate}} <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1- Blocking -] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1- Blocking -] (2) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} <!--  -->
  
 
===Camino 1.6===
 
===Camino 1.6===
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] <!-- (36) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}}  -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] (40) {{greyText|[+4 since last week]}} <!-- -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?] <!-- (6) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation) subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?] (6) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation) <!-- (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs] are blocking) subtract FIXED here-->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs] are blocking) <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] <!-- (509) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} ''cl led an UNCO triage and CLOSEME closing'' '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (524) {{greyText|['''+15''' since last week]}} <!-- ''cl led an UNCO triage and CLOSEME closing'' '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->
  
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&chfieldfrom=2007-10-17&chfieldto=2007-10-24&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs fixed since last meeting] <!-- ('''4''') {{greyText|[+3 since last week]}} (1.6-targeted strings cleanup, 1.5.3 relnotes) , 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&chfieldfrom=2007-10-24&chfieldto=2007-10-31&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''11''') {{greyText|[+7 since last week]}} (5 were 1.6-targeted, 2 were trunk-only) <!-- , 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) -->
  
 
==Queues==
 
==Queues==
  
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] <!-- (10) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} '''4 untargeted'''  -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] <!-- (4) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] (9) {{greyText|[+5 since last week]}} <!-- (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
  
 
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=checkin-needed&chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=checkin-needed&chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=project&chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} --><!--  -->
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=project&chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} --><!--  -->

Latest revision as of 05:04, 31 October 2007

Wed 17 Oct 9am PST (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

  • Camino 1.6
    • Scoping
      • Meet-up additions added to the scoping document and Bugzilla; no pre-meet-up bugs were removed (mostly P3/polish-type bugs and regressions)
      • Fixed bugs on the list currently indicated by strikethrough
      • Most of Tab Scrolling is done, as is AppleScript (P3), but most of other "big" features not underway (at least not "publicly")
      • jeff has been poking the tab dragging code
      • batwood has patches for both of his 1.6 bugs (new patch soon for multiple accounts?)
      • murph has patch for search editor (waiting on new patch) and has mostly wrangled OpenSearch
  • Camino 1.6a1
    • Take 4 date is October 31st (that's today!) - status?
    • smorgan is doing software update (see below)
    • xpt wrangling?
    • nominate any major/dataloss bugs that need to be fixed for a1
    • please help out with any P1s (see query below)
  • Camino 1.5.2/Camino 1.5.3
    • Released last Fri (Oct 19)
    • 1.5.3/Gecko 1.8.1.9 coming soon to fix serious Gecko regressions
    • Landed fixes for two bugs that needed xpt pickups (but only for 1_5 yet)
    • Will try to pick up some l10n fixes/new languages for 1.5.3
    • Gecko 1.8.1.9 release expected Thurs (Nov 1)
    • Talkback
      • Flash is #1
      • Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core Bug 349463) is #2 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
      • 14 of 19 libobjc (#3) crashes are 1passwd; 3 with email listed were mailed, one replied to thank us
      • DesktopServicesPriv (#4), random hex + DesktopServicesPriv + Spotlight (#8)
      • libSystemB (#5, #6, #9) Bug 401835 is plugin-related
      • nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement (#7) - Bug 395916 (Smokey emailed the two we have an email for, asking for Camino Diagnostics and more info)
    • Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything
  • 10.5 Issues - which will we fix for 1.5.x?
  • Tinderboxen
    • linear-ish T* increases on boxset
    • binus is hanging on grey Apple while booting :( (binus is doing 1.5.x coverage and is our 10.3 test box)
    • cb-x1 will continue running 1.8.0 "for a little while"
  • Weekly Bugs and Queues update
    • hackfest this weekend filled the queues

Specific bugs that need action

1.6a1pre

  • Bug 185436 - Software update for release builds
    • Tree approval granted - Bug 399977 (will also need to file a about:license change bug)
      • XXXsa about:license should be enough that we don't need it separately in the readme; other MIT licenses (e.g. JEP) are only there
      • will need to file license bug once part-of-build
    • localization - Bug 401017 - will need to work something out to not build l10ns in en-only but get them to l10n teams so they don't have to re-localize
    • EULA - Bug 401021 - see [1] for a possible method/hack
    • appcast - Bug 401474
  • Bug 361103 - When scrolling tabs, buttons should be disabled once the end of the bar is reached (before mouse up)
    • In theory P1 UI bugs are all to be fixed for a1

1.5.3

  • Coming soon to fix Gecko regressions

Leopard

Other (if there's time)

  • UNCOs
    • Bug 376930 - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen
      • Need to find a way to "promote" this as an area we'd like user feedback on in 1.6a1
  • Trunk
    • Bug 401383, Bug 401328 - tab bleeding not fixed for Camino, caused white rectangle, too; needs someone who can do some debugging
    • Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they're Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.
    • xpfe cleanup
      • Bug 383085 has a patch to remove a number of xpfe directories
      • stefanh has a "build finishes, crashes on startup" MOZ_XUL_APP patch
        [4:16pm] stefanh: "<Standard8>stefanh, so, my guess is you need to implement something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/app/ (nsSuiteApp.cpp, application.ini, Makefile.in) somewhere in camino"
        [4:16pm] stefanh: "stefanh, when you flip the flags, the main things that'll affect you immediately are the startup code, command line handlers and possibly alerts
        [4:16pm] stefanh: stefanh, so xpfe/components/startup/ -> toolkit/components/commandlines toolkit/components/startup etc"
        [4:17pm] stefanh: ardissone|ish: feel free to play with the code :P

Queries

Camino 1.6a1

Camino 1.6

Queues


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