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==General Plans== | ==General Plans== | ||
* Camino 2.0a1 | * Camino 2.0a1 | ||
** Released three weeks ago | ** Released three weeks ago | ||
| − | ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM20a1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008101818&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0a1 crashes] — | + | ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM20a1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008101818&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0a1 crashes] — 75 so far, adding ≈30/week; low?) |
| − | *** #1 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818| | + | *** #1 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|0xfffeff20}} (6 are {{bug|458961}} - Core 10.4 topcrash; 4 of those are triggered by Tabsposé) |
| − | *** #2 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818| | + | *** #2 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|Cocoa.12.0.0}} (startup crash; {{TB|50869706}} is sample) |
*** #3 is Flash | *** #3 is Flash | ||
| − | *** #4 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}} ( | + | *** #4 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|libSystem.B.dylib.111.0.0}} (5 are {{bug|458961}} on 10.5.0b5) |
| + | *** #5 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}} (2 are probably {{bug|458961}}) | ||
*** Also, 3 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|50702043}}, {{TB|50686087}}, {{TB|50604116}}) | *** Also, 3 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|50702043}}, {{TB|50686087}}, {{TB|50604116}}) | ||
* Camino 1.6.4 | * Camino 1.6.4 | ||
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** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented) | ** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented) | ||
** Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage. | ** Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage. | ||
| + | * [[Releases:1.6.5:Links|Camino 1.6.5]] | ||
| + | ** Need to spin ASAP; Gecko release today | ||
| + | ** About 1/2 of relnotes are ready | ||
* [[Releases:1.6.6:Links|Camino 1.6.6]] | * [[Releases:1.6.6:Links|Camino 1.6.6]] | ||
| − | ** Gecko release set for 16 Dec (probably Gecko 1.8.1 EOL) | + | ** Gecko release set for 16 Dec (probably Gecko 1.8.1 EOL from a practical perspective) |
* Camino 2.0 | * Camino 2.0 | ||
** Rough scoping doc at [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.0]] | ** Rough scoping doc at [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.0]] | ||
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** Anti-phishing - can't get permission :( | ** Anti-phishing - can't get permission :( | ||
** Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones | ** Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones | ||
| − | ** Tabsposé | + | ** Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0 |
| + | ** Tabsposé - need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0; also needs more QA - collecting bugs we should fix | ||
** Tab dragging - r- on first patch; working on second (no sign of murph in a week) | ** Tab dragging - r- on first patch; working on second (no sign of murph in a week) | ||
** Fullscreen - hendy looking at other bugs (middle-click) | ** Fullscreen - hendy looking at other bugs (middle-click) | ||
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** breakpad - | ** breakpad - | ||
** Gecko strings l10n - need to rework patch; no .dtd solution yet | ** Gecko strings l10n - need to rework patch; no .dtd solution yet | ||
| + | ** Flashblock whitelist - (batwood/cl) | ||
* Tinderboxen | * Tinderboxen | ||
** boxset had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down | ** boxset had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down | ||
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===Camino 2.0b1=== | ===Camino 2.0b1=== | ||
| − | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1%3F Blocking ?] ( | + | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1%3F Blocking ?] (15) {{greyText|[+7 since last week<!--unchanged-->]}} <!-- (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk --> |
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1%2B Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- --> <!-- subtract FIXED here--> | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1%2B Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- --> <!-- subtract FIXED here--> | ||
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1- Blocking -] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- --> | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1- Blocking -] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- --> | ||
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (652) {{greyText|['''+1''' since last week]}} <!-- '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month'' --> | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (652) {{greyText|['''+1''' since last week]}} <!-- '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month'' --> | ||
| − | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2008-11-05&chfieldto=2008-11-12&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''8''') {{greyText|[+6 since last week]}} ('''0''' were 2.0-targeted; 2 were ad-blocking; 1 was relnotes, 2 were website/IT | + | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2008-11-05&chfieldto=2008-11-12&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''8''') {{greyText|[+6 since last week]}} ('''0''' were 2.0-targeted; 2 were ad-blocking; 1 was relnotes, 2 were website/IT) |
==Queues== | ==Queues== | ||
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (12) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}} '''2 untargeted''' <!-- --> | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (12) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}} '''2 untargeted''' <!-- --> | ||
| − | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] ( | + | * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] (0) {{greyText|[-4 since last week]}} <!-- (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) --> |
Latest revision as of 21:25, 18 November 2008
Wed 12 Nov 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg
Contents
General Plans
- Camino 2.0a1
- Released three weeks ago
- Talkback broken here, too (all 2.0a1 crashes — 75 so far, adding ≈30/week; low?)
- #1 is 0xfffeff20 (6 are Bug 458961 - Core 10.4 topcrash; 4 of those are triggered by Tabsposé)
- #2 is Cocoa.12.0.0 (startup crash; TB50869706x is sample)
- #3 is Flash
- #4 is libSystem.B.dylib.111.0.0 (5 are Bug 458961 on 10.5.0b5)
- #5 is nsObjCExceptionLogAbort (2 are probably Bug 458961)
- Also, 3 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling (TB50702043x, TB50686087x, TB50604116x)
- Camino 1.6.4
- Released five weeks ago
- Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.4 crashes — 2022; increasing ~300/wk)
- Hard to tell much without topcrashers, but Flash looks like #1, libSystem.B seems to had a big uptick over the last week (RealPlayer, Bug 448554, bug 448554 comment 1), usual suspects + Core xmlhttpreq also up there
- Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
- Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
- Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
- Camino 1.6.5
- Need to spin ASAP; Gecko release today
- About 1/2 of relnotes are ready
- Camino 1.6.6
- Gecko release set for 16 Dec (probably Gecko 1.8.1 EOL from a practical perspective)
- Camino 2.0
- Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
- Need to retriage 2.0 list now; smorgan's done some
- Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b1 and add l10n to the whiteboard
- Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation
- Anti-phishing - can't get permission :(
- Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones
- Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0
- Tabsposé - need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0; also needs more QA - collecting bugs we should fix
- Tab dragging - r- on first patch; working on second (no sign of murph in a week)
- Fullscreen - hendy looking at other bugs (middle-click)
- Icon work for 2.0 - need to coordinate through Sam; updates promised two weeks ago
- breakpad -
- Gecko strings l10n - need to rework patch; no .dtd solution yet
- Flashblock whitelist - (batwood/cl)
- Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
- Tinderboxen
- boxset had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down
- cb-x1 still reporting with truncated hostname; also, starting to die again Bug 458217
- cb-minimaya running "1.6-M1.8" Ts (65 min dep)
- cb-minibinus running "2.0-M1.9" Ts (45 min dep)
- PPC minis need weekly reboots to keep running
- cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
- Dev docs
- CBSamplePane: can now build branch-compatible pane using trunk files; cl needs to address review comments
- Weekly Bugs and Queues update
- r queue still fairly full, 2.* lists not declining much.
Specific bugs that need action
2.0b1pre
- See 2.0b1? list
- Cocoa widgets still pretty scary; there are a number of regressions we'll be stuck with
1.6.5
Other (if there's time)
- 10.5 Visual UX
- Bookmark bar - Bug 401340
- Tab bar
- Toolbar icons - Bug 384725
- We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
- App icon lines - Bug 402967
- Folders (UNCO) - Bug 436012
- cl's buglist
- Bug 175748 - Need mechanism for creating new blank bookmarks
- Bug 318931 - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on Bug 438256?)
- Bug 363664 - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"
- xpfe cleanup
- Bug 389140 gets us using the right theme files; needs r=mento
- Bug 428333 license.html; needs r=mento
- stefanh has a "build finishes, crashes on startup" MOZ_XUL_APP patch
[4:16pm] stefanh: "<Standard8>stefanh, so, my guess is you need to implement something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/app/ (nsSuiteApp.cpp, application.ini, Makefile.in) somewhere in camino"
[4:16pm] stefanh: "stefanh, when you flip the flags, the main things that'll affect you immediately are the startup code, command line handlers and possibly alerts
[4:16pm] stefanh: stefanh, so xpfe/components/startup/ -> toolkit/components/commandlines toolkit/components/startup etc"
[4:17pm] stefanh: ardissone|ish: feel free to play with the code :P
Queries
Camino 2.0b1
- Blocking ? (15) [+7 since last week]
- Blocking + (1) [unchanged]
- Blocking - (1) [unchanged]
Camino 2.0
- Bugs targeted at 2.0 (33) [unchanged]
- Blocking ? (8) [-1 since last week] (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation)
- Blocking + (2) [unchanged]
- Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
- Bugs without target (652) [+1 since last week]
- Bugs fixed since last meeting (8) [+6 since last week] (0 were 2.0-targeted; 2 were ad-blocking; 1 was relnotes, 2 were website/IT)
Queues
- Review (12) [-2 since last week] 2 untargeted
- Superreview (0) [-4 since last week]
