Status Meetings:2010-05-26:Log

Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-05-26 15:30:13 -0400

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16:02	smorgan:	Sorry, I forgot it was wednesday; I can't stay today
16:02	smorgan:	And no pink
16:02	ardissone:	k
16:03	ardissone:	brb, and we'll try to be fast again today
16:07	ardissone:	ok
16:07	ardissone:	http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-05-26:Agenda
16:07	ardissone:	we released 2.0.3 today!
16:07	David:	yay
16:08	David:	Next step, world domination!
16:08	ardissone:	13wks after 2.0.2, which was a bit too long :(
16:08	ardissone:	2.0.4, main thing on the docket now is flash exceptions list
16:08	ardissone:	also markus's printing patch is ready
16:08	ardissone:	s/printing/print settings/
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16:09	ardissone:	anything else on 2.0.x?
16:09	ardissone:	on the 2.1 front
16:09	ardissone:	smichaud's "better IdleTimerVector hack" landed on 1.9.2 this am :)
16:09	ardissone:	so, tomorrow dogfoodable nightlies :D
16:10	hendy:	sweet
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16:10	ardissone:	question: do we want to switch the "nightly build dl" on cbo to 1.9.2 builds?
16:11	hendy:	as long as people are aware of its shortcomings, i'd be happy with that
16:11	ardissone:	also, the big thing we need to get fixed next for 1.9.2 builds are symbols
16:11	ardissone:	was hoping smorgan could unravel that mess :(
16:11	ardissone:	i've tried a couple of things with no success so far
16:12	ardissone:	smorgan: are you still here, or have you left and are just lurking? :)
16:12	ardissone:	guesses it's the latter
16:13	ardissone:	back to the nightly dl link
16:14	ardissone:	i'm not sure how aware people are ;)
16:14	ardissone:	we haven't had really sketchy nightlies for a long time
16:15	ardissone:	not since 1.9 dev started on the trunk after 1.8 split, which was 2005 :P
16:15	David:	People that would use the nightlies are probably also active on the forum, and in that case they definately know of the shortcommings..
16:15	ardissone:	we have a lot of nightly users we don't ever (visibly) see on the forum
16:16	hendy:	like my flatmate
16:16	ardissone:	like random people we see in bugzilla, too
16:17	ardissone:	big things, i guess, are fayt and focus
16:18	ardissone:	and that missing about:config context menu :P
16:19	ardissone:	we can hold off for a bit, but not forever :P
16:19	ardissone:	anyway, tomorrow, dogfoodable nightlies!
16:20	ardissone:	i'll push the experimental users over via swupdate
16:21	ardissone:	i haven't looked at Core bugs in ~2days
16:21	ardissone:	josh should be back, but I haven't seen if there's been progress on the things we poked him about
16:21	ardissone:	mstange's print settings patch landed; thanks again :)
16:22	ardissone:	hendy: any updates from you?
16:22	hendy:	not really. been really busy with other stuff.
16:22	ardissone:	k
16:22	hendy:	i'm moving slowly with the exceptions list when i get the chance.
16:23	ardissone:	:)
16:23	ardissone:	i did try to look at the "lying macros" bug, but offhand it looked more complex to me than i thought
16:24	ardissone:	https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=553864
16:24	ardissone:	other than that, i was mainly in release mode since last meeting
16:25	ardissone:	next up for me is upstreaming our l10ns to Breakpad
16:25	ardissone:	i promised l10n I'd drive that a long time ago and got caught up with other things
16:26	ardissone:	hopefully Dan will be back in a week or so to resume hacking on autocomplete
16:26	ardissone:	smorgan's got a couple of small fixes waiting on pink to sr
16:27	ardissone:	anything else on 2.1 or 1.9.2?
16:28	ardissone:	the other thing that we need to do soon is really press on the UNCOs
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16:29	ardissone:	once we've got 1.9.2 builds out, we can also have users test against them
16:29	ardissone:	maybe cl can drive that ;)
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16:30	ardissone:	we have 77 right now
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16:31	ardissone:	(or Wevah :P )
16:31	Wevah:	huh what
16:31	ardissone:	most of the growth this week has been pierre filing ad-blocking bugs
16:31	ardissone:	driving down UNCOs ;) :P
16:32	ardissone:	so phiw and I just need to confirm them, and there's a scheduled ad-blocking update soon
16:32	ardissone:	which will help some
16:33	ardissone:	Sam did fix (kill) the crazy vpnd on cb-x4
16:33	ardissone:	but, alas, that did not fix the Ts regression
16:33	ardissone:	so something else is still wrong on that box
16:34	ardissone:	Wevah: can you do bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=531903 ?
16:35	ardissone:	or maybe bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506733 ?
16:35	Wevah:	probably; any special reason it should be me? or just spreading out the work?
16:35	ardissone:	looking at the 2.1 list looking for pure-Cocoa bugs
16:36	ardissone:	the latter; non-Gecko stuff I can't do ;)
16:36	ardissone:	s/I/that I/
16:36	Wevah:	instead of doing it by index or nib reference one could just iterate through the main menu and compare submenus to -[NSApp helpMenu]
16:36	Wevah:	or well
16:36	Wevah:	just use [NSApp helpMenu] ..
16:36	Wevah:	oh wait that's 10.6+ -_-
16:36	Wevah:	nevermind
16:37	ardissone:	we have to tell NSApp what the helpMenu is, is the whole problem ;)
16:37	Wevah:	not really awake today
16:37	ardissone:	hehe
16:37	Wevah:	right
16:37	Wevah:	an iboutlet would probably be the best option then, yeah
16:38	ardissone:	but the 2.1-targeted list has a number of bugs that should be easy for actual Cocoa programmers
16:38	ardissone:	and it would be good to knock some of them out if we can ;)
16:38	Wevah:	yeah
16:38	Wevah:	i don't know how quickly i'd be able to get to things though :/
16:39	Wevah:	(plus i'm going out of town this weekend)
16:39	ardissone:	heh
16:39	ardissone:	i didn't mean today ;)
16:39	ardissone:	but if you could look at them in the next couple weeks maybe
16:40	ardissone:	the more warm bodies with programming knowledge, the better ;)
16:40	ardissone:	anyone have anything else today?
16:43	ardissone:	ok then
16:43	ardissone:	everyone please work on 2.1 bugs/reviews, and have a good week :)
16:46	Wevah:	yar
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