Status Meetings:2006-09-05:Log
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[11:39am] _Tsk_: ardissone|away: ? [11:49am] Pinolo joined the chat room. [11:51am] ss|gone joined the chat room. [11:51am] ss|gone was promoted to operator by ChanServ. [11:51am] maxr joined the chat room. [11:51am] maxr was promoted to operator by ss|gone. [11:52am] maxr: Pinolo: the build hasn't been made yet [11:52am] Pinolo: k [11:52am] maxr: ss is running late at a meeting, but we can start without him [11:52am] Pinolo: I was asking because I'm on broadband now [11:53am] mento joined the chat room. [11:53am] _Tsk_: Yeah !!! [11:53am] thebot joined the chat room. [11:54am] hwaara joined the chat room. [11:54am] Topic changed to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2006-09-05" by maxr. [11:57am] pinkerton joined the chat room. [11:58am] Wevah joined the chat room. [11:58am] maxr: for those that don't know who i am, i'm maxr. i work with ss and help with the website. i'll also be coding soon as well. [11:58am] maxr: he's sitting in a room not far from me in a meeting and is running late [11:59am] Pinolo: hi max [11:59am] pinkerton: welcome [11:59am] maxr: in the coming months, i'll also be coding and doing other things as assigned [11:59am] ardissone|away: maxr also = sam's clone [11:59am] maxr: maxr also = ss's bitch [12:00pm] maxr: yay for bosses [12:00pm] pinkerton: we haven't ever seen them in the same room together, maxr could *be* ss [12:00pm] cl|zzz joined the chat room. [12:00pm] maxr: i wish [12:00pm] maxr: he gets paid more [12:01pm] maxr: so, shall we begin? [12:01pm] maxr: ss|gone: if you join later, just cut me out [12:02pm] maxr: the first thing we need to talk about is 1.0.3 [12:02pm] ardissone|away: checkins are done, except relnotes and minibranch stuff [12:02pm] maxr: mento: are you able to do the minibranch today so we can get a build out? [12:02pm] Pinolo: I've collected a fair amount of tranlsated relnotes [12:03pm] mento: maxr: it's highly likely [12:03pm] pinkerton: Pinolo: cool [12:03pm] ardissone|away: [12:03pm] mento: do we have a list of checkins we'll need on the minibranch? [12:03pm] You are now known as ardissone|food. [12:03pm] maxr: see: http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Releases:1.0.3:Links [12:03pm] ardissone|food: http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Releases:1.0.3:Links [12:03pm] maxr: under the "mini-branching" section [12:03pm] ardissone|food: basically just your caceh fix [12:03pm] mento: ah good [12:03pm] ardissone|food: and pssobly the MathML thing since you're m-b anyway [12:04pm] ardissone|food: nothing substantive [12:04pm] ardissone|food: (and relnotes) [12:04pm] mento: what about the search box thing? [12:04pm] mento: we still want that on the minibranch? [12:04pm] maxr: it was removed from the relnotes [12:04pm] maxr: i'd say "no" [12:04pm] maxr: because it won't be in future releases [12:04pm] mento: ugly crap. ok. [12:04pm] ardissone|food: only if you and pink want to fight dbaron and bz [12:04pm] maxr: unless we want to forever take it on minibranches to come [12:05pm] mento: i'd like for a real fix to land on 1.8.0 or 1.8 [12:05pm] ardissone|food: it looks like apple might have fized it, tho [12:05pm] ardissone|food: it looked ok last i checked [12:05pm] ardissone|food: and stuff has been backed out for some time iirc [12:05pm] mento: annnnnnyway, the relnotes are ready for checkin too? [12:05pm] maxr: yes [12:05pm] maxr: you sred them [12:05pm] mento: i sure did. [12:06pm] mento: i'll do a spin, at the latest, this evening [12:06pm] ardissone|food: we'll call it an RC and get everyone hammering on it [12:06pm] mento: sure [12:06pm] maxr: we only have a day or two to hammer though [12:06pm] maxr: if we want to release with 1.8.0.7 [12:06pm] ardissone|food: the evil bloglines bug seems fixed in it [12:07pm] ardissone|food: that's a topcrasher in 102 [12:07pm] maxr: as far as l10n goes... [12:07pm] Pinolo: it goes... [12:07pm] maxr: Pinolo, _Tsk_: how are you looking? [12:08pm] maxr: how many translations do you have? [12:08pm] Pinolo: yes [12:08pm] maxr: and how many are you missing? [12:08pm] Pinolo: I can say more precisely tonight [12:08pm] maxr: alright, shoot out an email to let us know [12:08pm] Pinolo: I think we have about 10 [12:08pm] Pinolo: including the main ones [12:09pm] maxr: that looks right to me, based on email [12:09pm] maxr: how many did 1.0.2 ship with? [12:09pm] Pinolo: _Tsk_ can you answer? I'm on PC right now [12:10pm] ardissone|food: speaking of 1.0.2, froodian mentioned caminol10n.mozdev is still talking about 1.0.1 [12:10pm] maxr: 17, according to cbo [12:10pm] Pinolo: I'll take care of caminol10n [12:10pm] _Tsk_: Sure let me a minute [12:11pm] ss|gone: k [12:11pm] ss|gone: maxr: ty [12:11pm] ardissone|food: i count 16 renlontes folders on the dmg [12:11pm] maxr: yw [12:11pm] _Tsk_: I run trunk on my machines dont have em handy [12:11pm] _Tsk_: so we are missing 6 [12:11pm] _Tsk_: haven't seen russian nor dk [12:11pm] ardissone|food: (that includes the original en readme) [12:11pm] Pinolo: 16 is good, since one of the lang is british english [12:12pm] ss|gone: I saw russian. [12:12pm] ss|gone: Russian made it to the list anyway. [12:12pm] Pinolo: I'll be more precise about what we have in a few hour via email [12:12pm] ss|gone: From Igor, two days ago [12:12pm] ss|gone: Anyway, let's move on. [12:12pm] ss|gone: "We're doing good" is the point. [12:12pm] ardissone|food: mhm [12:13pm] ss|gone: Hopefully we'll be good enough to release on Thursday. [12:13pm] Pinolo: Yeah, I've archived everything from the list [12:13pm] ss|gone: If not, we might push it a day, but it looks good so far. [12:13pm] _Tsk_: I don't have russian in my mbox [12:13pm] _Tsk_: I've just checked [12:13pm] Pinolo: I'll try to get the build tomorrow morning [12:13pm] ss|gone: We'll have a build tonight that will be the "RC" and, probably, the "final build". [12:13pm] _Tsk_: How logn do you guys want the RC to be tested ? [12:14pm] ss|gone: It can be pretty short. Not much has changed on that branch. [12:14pm] ss|gone: _Tsk_: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/caminol10n/2006-September/001708.html [12:15pm] ardissone|food: next item? [12:15pm] ss|gone: mhm [12:15pm] cl|zzz is now known as cl. [12:15pm] ss|gone: haas posted a new patch [12:16pm] ardissone|food: hwaara and smorgan reviewed it [12:16pm] ss|gone: It got r+ (thanks hwaara), but smorgan left comments again [12:16pm] _Tsk_: Why wouldn't he ? [12:16pm] ss|gone: With those changes, he needs some sr-lovin' [12:16pm] ss|gone: pinkerton: That's you. [12:17pm] pinkerton: for what? [12:17pm] ardissone|food: bug 322093 [12:17pm] ss|gone: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322093 [12:17pm] thebot: ardissone|food: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322093 nor, P2, Camino1.1, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Camino initial bookmark import APPEARS to hang and stall w/ large bookmark imports [12:18pm] pinkerton: it's in my queue [12:18pm] ss|gone: mhm [12:18pm] ss|gone: It's priority in your queue [12:18pm] ss|gone: [12:19pm] ss|gone: Overall, we still have lots of blockage in the review (but not superreview) queue [12:19pm] peeja|sleep joined the chat room. [12:19pm] ss|gone: drops the hint for various reviewers in channel [12:20pm] peeja|sleep is now known as peeja|inandout. [12:21pm] ss|gone: Next? [12:21pm] ss|gone: Camino 1.1, which is basically being help up by the review queue. [12:21pm] ss|gone: But, in here, I can also say, everyone welcome froodian as a new CVS checker inner [12:21pm] ss|gone is now known as ss. [12:21pm] ardissone|food: yes, applause [12:22pm] pinkerton: yay! [12:22pm] Pinolo: go! [12:22pm] ss: He's already done a few checkins today. [12:22pm] ardissone|food: w2hen i went to bed last night, the stats were accurate (no 1.1 checkins in a week) [12:22pm] _Tsk_: clap clap [12:22pm] ardissone|food: froOODian cvs will help, but reviews are still the key problem [12:23pm] ss: Yeah, they really are. [12:23pm] ardissone|food: becomes a broken record [12:23pm] ss: We're still waiting on RSS for example. [12:23pm] ss: smorgan must be pretty busy [12:23pm] peeja|inandout: looks up and claps for froodian! [12:23pm] ardissone|food: yeah, he was not really around at all last week [12:24pm] ss: Before we go into specific bugs, I just want to say: [12:24pm] ss: cb.o is sucking right now, overall. [12:24pm] ss: We're working on it and should have a new host this month. [12:24pm] _Tsk_: nice so you're leaving dreamhost ? [12:25pm] ss: It's being watched by some sysadmins now. [12:25pm] ss: Yeah [12:25pm] ss: So when it goes down, they get paged. [12:25pm] ss: And they call DreamHost to deal with it. [12:25pm] _Tsk_: care to tell us where it's moving ? [12:25pm] _Tsk_: [12:25pm] ss: That doesn't solve the problem, but it helps. [12:25pm] ss: _Tsk_: It's not 100% yet and we have a couple of options. [12:25pm] ss: But as soon as it's decided, I'll let everyone know. [12:26pm] ss: Moving on... [12:26pm] ss: bug 337750 [12:26pm] thebot: ss: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337750 cri, P2, Camino1.1, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, bookmarks-corrupted-n.plist often written as empty file [12:26pm] ss: We need to get that logging in soon [12:27pm] cl: any chance of getting it into 1.0.3? [12:27pm] ardissone|food: is is happening on 1.0.x? [12:27pm] cl: yes. [12:27pm] cl: most people seeing it have been on release builds. [12:27pm] cl: that's why they're so pissed. [12:28pm] ardissone|food: i think for 1.0.x we should do a custom build [12:28pm] ss: I agree. [12:28pm] ardissone|food: i'm ok with it in for everyone on branch/trunk, but 1.0.x seems iffy [12:28pm] cl: that's fine too, as long as we promote the hell out of it to the people who've had the problem [12:28pm] cl: since we'll need some serious testing on it in hopes that we find something. [12:29pm] cl: (is it still the case that no one but Simon has seen it on our team) [12:29pm] cl: ? [12:29pm] ss: Not sure, I thought someone else did, but I don't recall anymore. [12:29pm] ardissone|food: i think so [12:29pm] ss: That's the bug that just won't die. [12:30pm] ardissone|food: there's been one report on 10.3.9 iirc, but everyone else in 10.4 [12:30pm] _Tsk_: gotta run [12:30pm] ss: (The whole "destruction of bookmarks" bug.) [12:30pm] _Tsk_ left the chat room. (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]) [12:31pm] ardissone|food: should we ping smfr to look at the logging patch, or can someone else? [12:31pm] ss: smorgan probably can [12:31pm] ss: But we can have smfr sr it [12:31pm] cl: i think the logging patch is already sr-worthy [12:31pm] pinkerton: if someone reviews it, i can give it a rubber stamp [12:32pm] cl: since the one part smorgan didn't like was removed in the latest version [12:32pm] ss: smorgan's already given his two cents on the other patch, I think it's almost there. [12:32pm] cl: i think it'd be useful for someone who is fairly knowledgeable and not smorgan to take a good hard look at it to see if there's anything we might have missed. [12:32pm] ardissone|food: if smorgan doesn't come back tonight, can hwaara r it tomorrow? [12:33pm] cl: point being, the sr on this shouldn't just be a rubber stamp [12:33pm] cl: (sorry pink) [12:33pm] pinkerton: for logging that's already been discussed? [12:33pm] ardissone|food: it's logging code tho [12:34pm] ss: Well, we'll see when we get there. [12:34pm] ardissone|food: rs'ing the logging gets it in more quickly, which means more info about the bug [12:34pm] ardissone|food: anyway [12:34pm] ss: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322374 [12:34pm] thebot: ss: Bug 322374 cri, --, Camino1.1, nick.kreeger@park.edu, REOP, Crash [@ libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0] when clearing download list [12:34pm] ss: I want that bug closed. [12:34pm] cl: haha [12:35pm] ardissone|food: yeah, i think we file a new bug on the new thing [12:35pm] ss: Just because things crash in libobj doesn't mean it's the same issue. [12:35pm] ss: That's totally a catchall. [12:35pm] ardissone|food: yeah [12:35pm] ardissone|food: is *should* be our topcrasher [12:35pm] ss: mhm [12:35pm] cl: heh [12:35pm] ardissone|food: (if not, there's a bad bug) [12:35pm] ss: And also, the one TB report that said he was cleaning his list was probably also downloading. [12:36pm] ardissone|food: missed that one [12:36pm] cl: what was it ispiked said the guy put in the TB comments? [12:36pm] ss: So, all for closing it again? [12:36pm] cl: aye [12:36pm] ss: Did he say anything? [12:36pm] ss: I know I did... [12:36pm] ardissone|food: mhm [12:37pm] ss: "I was closing all my tabs (everything worked fine) and then I went to clean up my downloads, and it crashed. Overall, I find your browser superior to all the others, so I'm not too upset, but if you can use the info for fixing things, so much the better." [12:37pm] ardissone|food: heh [12:37pm] ss: Are there any opposed to closing it? [12:37pm] ardissone|food: and that one has no stack [12:38pm] ss: Close that baby [12:38pm] ss: will tell ispiked [12:38pm] ss: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308552 [12:38pm] thebot: ss: Bug 308552 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Growl Integration for Mac OS X [12:38pm] ss: We need to decide on that bug now. [12:39pm] ss: As much as no one wants to. [12:39pm] ss: Because we have someone that's interested in writing the patch. [12:39pm] ss: pinkerton: ^^ [12:39pm] cl: haha, there we go. "Tweaking Camino where your mom told you never touch a girl." [12:39pm] pinkerton: hrm [12:39pm] ss: Yeah, that was awesome. [12:40pm] pinkerton: so if growl is installed, we'll talk to it, otherwise we'll do nothing? [12:40pm] cl: right. [12:40pm] ss: That's the idea. [12:40pm] ardissone|food: that's what they promise [12:40pm] pinkerton: and if not, it won't annoy people? like we're not going to bundle it ourselves? [12:40pm] hwaara: we should be able to weak-link the framework, right? [12:41pm] pinkerton: will that require changes to tinderbox/build machines to include that framework on them? [12:41pm] pinkerton: that's been one of the sticking points in the past, though that's sort of a cop-out [12:41pm] hwaara: wait, this bug's for Thunderbird [12:41pm] ss: I think we'll need to include the basic framework [12:42pm] ss: But not the full package. [12:42pm] hwaara: what am I missing? [12:42pm] ardissone|food: bug 283100 [12:42pm] pinkerton: hwaara: for downloads complete [12:42pm] thebot: ardissone|food: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283100 enh, --, Future, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Growl global notifications in Camino for completed downloads [12:42pm] ardissone|food: someone put in the wrong number [12:42pm] hwaara: oh [12:42pm] ss: Including the full package would allow users to install Growl, iirc. [12:42pm] ss: But we're not going to do that. [12:42pm] hwaara: anyway, growl integration would be better done somewhere in core, so everyone can reuse it [12:43pm] hwaara: if TB's gonna use it anyway [12:43pm] ss: Umm... huh? [12:43pm] cl: ooh, possible sticking point...has Growl been ported to Intel? [12:43pm] ss: If we're talking about download notifications... [12:43pm] hwaara: ss: bug 308552 [12:43pm] thebot: hwaara: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308552 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Growl Integration for Mac OS X [12:43pm] ss: We do those different than core does. [12:43pm] ss: hwaara: See what I just said. [12:43pm] ss: cl: Yes. [12:43pm] hwaara: oh well [12:44pm] ss: "Growl 0.7.4 is released! This release provides support for Intel based Apple Computers via a Universal Binary." [12:44pm] cl: ah, good, never mind then. [12:44pm] hwaara: iirc, growl integration is not many lines of code. [12:44pm] Wevah: buh? [12:44pm] Wevah: yeah [12:44pm] hwaara: we just have to take care to weak-link the framework [12:44pm] Wevah: it's not [12:44pm] Wevah: yeah [12:44pm] hwaara: and make it look good if it exists [12:44pm] ardissone|food: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308552#c10 seems useful [12:44pm] ss: I don't think we have any say in how it looks. [12:44pm] cl: no, we don't [12:45pm] hwaara: I just know that whatever colloquy does looks fugly [12:45pm] cl: the user chooses the appearance of the growl notifications [12:45pm] hwaara: and I don't think I have growl installed on the machine.. [12:45pm] cl: heh. well, that's because colloquy sucks [12:45pm] hwaara: but they don't have any say in it, no? [12:45pm] ss: Yeah, that's why most of us hate Growl so much. [12:45pm] ardissone|food: 244K for the framework [12:45pm] ss: Because of Colloquy. [12:45pm] cl: they don't have any say in colloquy's use of it, no. they do elsewhere, and it doesn't suck elsewhere. [12:45pm] Wevah: colloquy seems to do growl badly [12:46pm] Wevah: what you said [12:46pm] cl: you just can't ever turn it completely off in Colloquy, which is what most people would prefer to its awful implementation [12:46pm] hwaara: ah, exactly [12:46pm] Pinolo left the chat room. [12:46pm] hwaara: so, colloquy is probably bundling it with the app [12:46pm] hwaara: which we shouldn't [12:46pm] cl: yeah. [12:46pm] Wevah: well [12:46pm] cl: therefore, problem solved. [12:46pm] ss: Let me say this once, and only once: [12:46pm] ss: Colloquy sucks. [12:46pm] hwaara: heh [12:46pm] ardissone|food: well [12:46pm] Wevah: transmit and adium have the framework in-app [12:47pm] ardissone|food: their reocmmended solution is now to bundle with it in the app [12:47pm] Wevah: but their use doesn't suck nearly as much [12:47pm] Wevah: i don't mind the without-installer version so much [12:47pm] ss: Alright, let's take a vote, since we're democratic like that. [12:47pm] ss: pinkerton: Feel free to override it. [12:48pm] hwaara: for downloads only, right? [12:48pm] pinkerton: i don't want it in the app [12:48pm] ardissone|food: if we can do it right (i.e., i'll never notice it) and without bloating the app, I'm not opposed [12:48pm] ss: All those in favor of including Growl as a simple framework, but not exposing it by default (letting the user expose it only), say aye: [12:48pm] pinkerton: we shouldn't bundle it [12:48pm] cl: aye [12:48pm] Wevah: afaict the framework is just for ease-of-implementation [12:48pm] hwaara: aye (no bundling, weak linking) [12:48pm] Wevah: it doesn't do anything if the user doesn't have the prefpane/bg app installed [12:49pm] cl: (agree with pink that we shouldn't ship the full thing, just the bare minimum required for support) [12:49pm] ardissone|food: i don't think we're on the same page at all [12:49pm] pinkerton: can we do it w/out doing anything to the build machines? [12:49pm] pinkerton: or will we have to add something in any case? [12:50pm] hwaara: pinkerton: yes, but they won't check if someone breaks growl-caminos [12:50pm] hwaara: which is very unlikely anyway [12:50pm] ss: I think our best option is to add the 244k framework. [12:50pm] ss: It doesn't have an installer with it. [12:50pm] Wevah: right [12:50pm] ss: So it won't show up unless the user already has Growl installed. [12:50pm] pinkerton: seems large [12:50pm] hwaara: ugh [12:50pm] ardissone|food: yeah [12:50pm] Wevah: what ss said about use, though [12:50pm] ardissone|food: midas was less than that iirc [12:50pm] Wevah: it does nothing if they don't have it installed [12:51pm] ardissone|food: and we argued forever over it, and it's standard part of gecko [12:51pm] hwaara: there's a dyld linker flag that is -weak_framework or something like that. I wonder why we can't simply use that [12:51pm] hwaara: then check on runtime if the stuff's available [12:51pm] Wevah: well [12:51pm] Wevah: 84 K of that is headers [12:51pm] hwaara: we can ask the growl people if that is feasible? [12:51pm] ardissone|food: they claim people didn't weak-link right [12:51pm] ardissone|food: see the bug comment i linked [12:52pm] ardissone|food: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308552#c10 [12:52pm] ss: I have to go, but I'm for the 244k framework. [12:52pm] thebot: ardissone|food: Bug 308552 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Growl Integration for Mac OS X [12:52pm] ardissone|food: in the Tb bug [12:52pm] ss: ardissone|food: Take it away (the meeting, I mean) [12:52pm] ardissone|food: we need something to tell the guy who wants to fix it [12:52pm] ardissone|food: k [12:53pm] ardissone|food: either 1) weak-link or 2) AppleScript [12:53pm] ardissone|food: i don't think it's fair to make him develop both and we argue more later [12:53pm] hwaara: weak-link will save 244k. I think it's technically possible, but we can check with the growl people first [12:54pm] hwaara: probably the crashes were happening due to people strong-linking, and then it wasn't available [12:54pm] Wevah: i'm sure it's possible; we'd just have to remember to test [12:54pm] Wevah: [12:54pm] Wevah: yeah [12:54pm] hwaara: of course [12:54pm] ardissone|food: we should be capable of doing things correctly here [12:54pm] Wevah: or not doing the if (foo) check [12:54pm] Wevah: or whatever [12:54pm] Wevah: yes [12:54pm] Wevah: we r smrt [12:54pm] ardissone|food: k [12:54pm] ardissone|food: so, we poke the growl folks about weak-linking [12:55pm] ardissone|food: and have an a=pinkerton for proceeding if nothing gets bundled [12:55pm] ardissone|food: correct? [12:55pm] pinkerton: yes [12:55pm] ardissone|food: k [12:56pm] ardissone|food: last bug is the weird intel stuff [12:56pm] ardissone|food: bad stuff with sheets and autocomplete [12:56pm] ardissone|food: bug 346111, Bug 351008 (possibly) and one that sam, maxr and Wevah see but haven't filed [12:57pm] thebot: ardissone|food: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346111 nor, --, Camino1.1, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, [10.4] javascript:alert() typed in location bar doesn't close if loaded from autocomplete drop-down [12:57pm] thebot: ardissone|food: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351008 cri, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, are you sure you want to navigate out of this page hang [12:57pm] ardissone|food: mento: these seem to be intel-only stuff [12:57pm] ardissone|food: Wevah/maxr : can you describe your bug? [12:58pm] ardissone|food: autocomplete results never update? [12:58pm] Wevah: the autocomplete table stops updating properly [12:58pm] Wevah: sometimes it shows up empty [12:59pm] ardissone|food: so [12:59pm] ardissone|food: we need some people to look at these [1:00pm] ardissone|food: (we also need the autocomplete one filed :P) [1:00pm] hwaara: I would like to fix bug 342755, but dunno which way to go [1:00pm] thebot: hwaara: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342755 min, --, Camino1.2, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Cmd-clicking javascript: links opens eternally "Loading..." tab [1:01pm] ardissone|food: mento: bug 346111 is definitely repro-able and has some analysis from smorgan; can you start there? [1:01pm] thebot: ardissone|food: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346111 nor, --, Camino1.1, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, [10.4] javascript:alert() typed in location bar doesn't close if loaded from autocomplete drop-down [1:02pm] ardissone|food: any ideas for hwaara? [1:03pm] thebot: New build added to Mozilla1.8-SeaMonkey: Linux hoshi Depend (1.1) (status: Success). [1:03pm] ardissone|food: [1:03pm] hwaara: hmm [1:04pm] hwaara: it would be hard to debug/fix without an intel mac [1:04pm] hwaara: sounds like some weird appkit bug (possibly) that we'd need to avoid [1:04pm] ardissone|food: yeah, that's why I keep pinging mento [1:04pm] ardissone|food: who must be busy [1:05pm] ardissone|food: any other issues not on the agenda? [1:05pm] cl: yes, if i may. [1:05pm] hwaara: me too [1:06pm] ardissone|food: make them quick we're over an hour [1:06pm] hwaara: but go first, cl [1:06pm] cl: i'd just like to announce that i'm (mostly) back [1:06pm] ardissone|food: yay! [1:06pm] ardissone|food: applause [1:06pm] cl: and apologise for the rather disgraceful way i took my semi-leave. [1:06pm] hwaara: awesome [1:07pm] cl: hands the floor to håkan [1:07pm] ardissone|food: hwaara: ? [1:08pm] hwaara: well, I want to see bug 342755 fixed. if anyone has any ideas, please comment. pinkerton, do you think you could have a quick look? [1:08pm] thebot: hwaara: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342755 min, --, Camino1.2, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Cmd-clicking javascript: links opens eternally "Loading..." tab [1:08pm] pinkerton: (really busy) [1:08pm] ardissone|food: !clone camino devs [1:09pm] ardissone|food: ok, i guess that's it for today [1:09pm] ardissone|food: mento will spin an RC tonight and we need everyone to start hammering on it [1:10pm] ardissone|food: and we'll see what we can do with growl [1:10pm] hwaara: also, these meetings should be summarized [1:10pm] ardissone|food: and as always, please try to keep the r queue moving [1:10pm] ardissone|food: (and ss will never let me run another meeting :P) [1:10pm] cl: yeah, we need to get someone to make an executive summary [1:11pm] thebot: New build added to Mozilla1.8.0-SeaMonkey: WINNT 5.1 tpol Clobber release (status: Success). [1:11pm] ardissone|food: ok, that's it [1:11pm] ardissone|food: thanks all [1:11pm] hwaara: just a small "response" to each bullet in the wiki page would do [1:11pm] froodian|class joined the chat room. [1:11pm] ardissone|food: heh [1:11pm] froodian|class is now known as froodian. [1:12pm] cl: hahah [1:12pm] ardissone|food: everyone, more applause for froodian [1:12pm] ardissone|food: applauds [1:12pm] froodian: is confused [1:12pm] cl: applauds with one hand [1:12pm] ardissone|food: C-V-S, C-V-S [1:12pm] cl: on IRC, the sound of one hand clapping is just as loud as with two [1:12pm] froodian: [1:13pm] hwaara: heh [1:13pm] ardissone|food: hwaara: i'll make a template we can use to keep the summary info separarte from the pre-mtg comments [1:13pm] Wevah: HUZZAH FROODIAN [1:13pm] hwaara: ardissone|food: great! [1:14pm] froodian: and I didn't even break the tree [1:14pm] ardissone|food: [1:14pm] froodian: was worried when he had to go to class and stuff was still compiling [1:14pm] froodian: so, is the meeting over? [1:14pm] ardissone|food: ok, back to #camino
