Status Meetings:2010-10-20:Log

Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-10-20 15:22:05 -0400

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15:56	pinkerton:	i know, i know, you need SR's.
16:00		» pinkerton was promoted to operator by ardissone.
16:00	ardissone:	among other things ;)
16:01	smorgan:	I need srs!
16:01	pinkerton:	i know i know
16:01	ardissone:	!clone developers!
16:02	ardissone:	http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-10-20:Agenda
16:02	ardissone:	so, the bad news just keeps on coming
16:02	ardissone:	i think this is the highest crash count on record
16:03	ardissone:	half of this week's increase was KBL
16:03	smorgan:	"yay"
16:03	ardissone:	which basically doubled and is now 8% of our crashes
16:03	ardissone:	(1/4 of the increase was flash 10.0 :P )
16:04	ardissone:	weird 10.4 font crash still hanging around
16:04	ardissone:	(despite what the agenda says, there was *not* a big swap at the low end this week)
16:05	ardissone:	the only other interesting thing were these odd off-the-main-thread crashes in -[NSScriptSynonymDescription dealloc] related to bookmarks
16:05	ardissone:	http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/list?product=Camino&version=Camino%3A2.0.4&query_search=signature&query_type=contains&query=-%5BNSScriptSynonymDescription%20dealloc%5D&date=10%2F20%2F2010%2013%3A05%3A22&range_value=2&range_unit=weeks&hang_type=any&process_type=any&plugin_field=&plugin_query_type=&plugin_query=&do_query=1&admin=&signature=-%5BNSScriptSynonymDescription%20dealloc%5D
16:06	ardissone:	possibly all 1 user?
16:06	smorgan:	Messed up OS maybe?
16:06	smorgan:	It's crashing inside a file copy
16:06	ardissone:	k
16:07	ardissone:	it was weird and creepy and i just wanted someone to have a look :)
16:08	ardissone:	anyway, of the top 10, we're shipping a fix for #10 in 2.0.5
16:08	ardissone:	and some mitigation (shutdown fix) for #2
16:08	ardissone:	and some warning for outdated flash
16:09	ardissone:	anything else on 2.0.4?
16:10	smorgan:	Kill it!
16:10	ardissone:	haha
16:10	ardissone:	built 2.0.5 on Friday
16:10	ardissone:	as has been usual of late, absolutely no comments about it
16:11	ardissone:	I guess we're on track for releasing Tues
16:11	smorgan:	Sounds like we should ship it then :)
16:11	ardissone:	relnotes are starting to roll in
16:12	ardissone:	someone will need to remind me when i'm back this weekend to do the website
16:12	ardissone:	On 2.0.6
16:13	ardissone:	KBL is of course awful; stuart said he'd jump back on it once we can ship 2.1a1
16:13	ardissone:	he also has a partial fix for the metadata madness because it's blocking the autocomplete work
16:14	ardissone:	we might want to take cpeterso's fix for restored downloads that have no content-length if it seems as safe and simple as it appears
16:15	ardissone:	anything else on 2.0.x?
16:16	ardissone:	2.1 stuff then
16:16	ardissone:	smorgan: can you tell us, in broad terms, about where you are in the autocomplete stuff?
16:17	ardissone:	middle? closer to the end? beginning? :P
16:18	ardissone:	there's not a lot of other explict-2.1 stuff happening right now
16:19	ardissone:	i tried beating my head against the wall of SiteIconProvider again
16:19	ardissone:	and got the same results: a bloody head
16:20	ardissone:	:p
16:20	ardissone:	masayuki's "fix" for the Ts regression he caused on 10.4 has no effect
16:28	ardissone:	ss: did you ever write back to the AppZapper folks?
16:28	ardissone:	smorgan asked about that the other week while you were busy rescuing those miners
16:29	ss:	Not yet
16:29	ss:	It's in a tab, but probably not for a couple days.
16:29	ardissone:	k
16:29	smorgan:	sorry, was AFK
16:29	smorgan:	Close to the end
16:29	ardissone:	:)
16:29	smorgan:	Well, the 2.1a1 end
16:29	ardissone:	right
16:30	ardissone:	it would be great if we could ship a1 before a year has passed since 2.0 went out
16:31	smorgan:	Agreed
16:31	ardissone:	s/ship a1/ship a1 with an autocomplete that does not make me want to kill it/
16:31	smorgan:	I'm waiting on pink's sr for the bookmark before doing the next bit
16:31	ardissone:	k
16:31	smorgan:	Although I guess I could do the loading in parallel
16:32	ardissone:	the queues are starting to back up again
16:32	ardissone:	the sr queue is mostly blocked on pink, the r queue is spread around
16:32	pinkerton:	sorry
16:32	ardissone:	:)
16:33	ardissone:	they look just a bit higher than they really are, because there are a bunch of requests that pertain to the new "Tips for New Reviewers" section of the Development:Reviewing page
16:33	ardissone:	http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Development:Reviewing#Helpful_Tips_for_New_Reviewers
16:33	ardissone:	I wrote that after ilya had a bunch of questions when doing his first review
16:34	ardissone:	all reviewer-type people are welcome (and encouraged!) to edit, comment in Bug 604584, or ping me with suggestions/improvements
16:35	ardissone:	the "What to Look For" section is especially in need of help, since, uh, I don't know what reviewers look for in actual code ;)
16:35	smorgan:	We use the app store requirement list, mostly
16:36	ardissone:	haha
16:37	ardissone:	also on the docket for "bugs that need help", to upgrade Flashblock we'll need some small code changes
16:37	ardissone:	https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=604477#c2
16:38	ardissone:	I don't know where in our code we do that; hoping batwood or hendy know and will show up :P
16:39	ardissone:	anyone have anything else on 2.1 or 2.1a1?
16:40	ardissone:	we have ~20 CLOSEMEs set to expire this weekend from philippe's work a couple weeks ago
16:40	ardissone:	cl and i have been going through some older UNCOs that are "do we want this or not" as time permits
16:41	ardissone:	in fact, I think most of the bugs in the UNCOs list on "Other bugs (if there's time)" have been dealt with :)
16:42	ardissone:	philippe's also working on a couple of design bugs right now
16:43	ardissone:	inactive throbber state, alert icon for out-of-date and flash checks
16:43	ardissone:	ss: do we have a date for the server migration?
16:44	ss:	Not yet.
16:44	ss:	It'll probably be in 2-3 weeks.
16:44	ardissone:	ok
16:44	ss:	Should go pretty seamless though, assuming everything's setup properly.
16:45	ardissone:	so we'll do 2.0.5 next week
16:45	ardissone:	and after that's been out a week-ish would probably be the ideal time
16:45	ss:	Yep
16:45	ardissone:	so that we can shake out anything before 2.1a1
16:46	ardissone:	(and get caminoplanet running again :P )
16:46	ss:	Yeah
16:47	ardissone:	i've been holding off on blogging stuff since no-one will see the updates :P
16:47	ardissone:	ok
16:47	ardissone:	anyone have anything else today?
16:48	smorgan:	not me
16:50	ardissone:	ok then
16:50	ardissone:	everyone please work on 2.1/a1 bugs and reviews, and have a good week! :)
16:51	ardissone:	(and I'll see you this weekend/next week, as appropriate)
16:53	ardissone:	oh
16:53	ardissone:	pinkerton: we're pretty sure thebot really was broken
16:53	pinkerton:	:)
16:53	ardissone:	more things stopped working right after that, and then he vanished again
16:54	ardissone:	(so we're botless once again)