Status Meetings:2009-08-05:Agenda

Wed 05 August 9am PDT (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

• Camino 2.0b3
  • Released nine weeks ago Thursday
  • Breakpad pseudo-topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 296 (unchanged from last week's number)
    • #1 is various other Flash-related crashes; Flash 10.0.32.18 should fix the CFReadStreamGetStatus crash (22%)
    • #2 is objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d (unknown bug) (20%, down from 27%)
    • #3 is _objc_error/_objc_trap/libobjc.A.dylib@0xeca0 (8%)
    • #4 is nsObjCExceptionLogAbort%20%7c%20nsAppShell::ProcessNextNativeEvent(int) (8%)
    • #5 is Flash+Exposé Bug 465178 (-%5bNSWindow%20makeKeyWindow%5d) (1%)
    • Big jump in _objc_error and friends crashes this week
    • Big jump in nsObjCExceptionLogAbort | nsAppShell::ProcessNextNativeEvent crashes this week
    • Lots of misc signatures (more Cocoa, especially appshell-related, filepicker, key/mouse events); more widely varied this week
    • First crash with CamiNoScript: (bp-52aa4c63-e7ac-418f-97b1-1dcec2090718)
• Camino 2.0b4
  • One week to code freeze?
• Camino 1.6.8
  • Released seven weeks ago Monday
  • Talkback is broken; (all 1.6.8 crashes — 1620 so far, ~ +285 last week [bit lower than average])
    • #1 Flash is 27% of all 1.6.8 crashes so far (down from 33% peak)
    • #2 libobjc
    • #3 CoreFoundation
    • #4 libSystem.B
    • #5 nsObjectFrame::NotifyContentObjectWrapper
  • Common comments: Flash logging out of Yahoo! Mail, CF loading nytimes.com
• Camino 1.6.9
  • Gecko work beginning; tree currently burning
  • Flashblock and ad-blocking for us
• Summer of Code 2009
  • Program timeline
  • Proposal shortform: [1]
  • Proposal and meta Bug 495490
  • Dan's blog
• Camino 2.0
  • Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
  • Anti-phishing - lots of follow-ups
    • New UI mockups for overlay; what about return? - Bug 480207
    • Menu patch waiting on the gone pink, but can't land until we turn on, either
    • Sam getting back in touch with Google
  • Keyboard loop - spawned about half-dozen new bugs; possibly a new crasher - Bug 470159
  • Cocoa Widgets key blackhole -
  • Tabsposé - [2]
  • breakpad - Bug 489123 for follow-ups
  • CJK/fonts tab -
  • UTF-8 -
  • Zoom -
  • Downloading -
  • Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings)
  • 10.5 UI
    • Bookmark/tab bar - Landed; need to watch for 10.4 feedback
    • Folders - main bug landed, still debating "up" for dirListing
    • Icon work for 2.0 - Sam promised updates months ago
  • CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews
• CAMINO_2_0_BRANCH
  • Branched - Development:Planning:Branching for Camino 2.0
  • First client.mk change ported over
  • All patches intended for 2.0 must apply on the CAMINO_2_0_BRANCH, so if you're working near files Dan is working on, please pull a branch tree and spin branch patches
  • 2.0-only bugs, if we have them, should get a "[2.0]" tag prepended to the summary
  • When cross-landing, remember to add "[camino-2.0]" to whiteboard (will be replaced by keyword soon-ish)
• Tinderboxen
  • boxset
    • offline (again) due to power outage at Sam's
    • missing from tinderbox yet again Bug 479999
    • currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
  • cb-minibinus01 switched over to boxset-like config to be a temporary replacement; running Ts and Tdhtml
    • would like to get Tp working before switching back to normal config (need more static/PPC coverage)
  • What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
  • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
• Weekly Bugs and Queues update
  • Queues in OK shape; need to stay on top of them :)

Specific bugs that need action

Other (if there's time)

• 10.5 Visual UX
  • Toolbar icons - Bug 384725
    • We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
  • App icon lines - Bug 402967
• UNCOs
  • Bug 467851 - Floating Tab Previews
  • Bug 468262 - Use grabbed hand cursor during tab dragging
  • Bug 458427 - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
  • Bug 404515 - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page
  • Bug 391684 - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user
  • Bug 386574 - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems
  • Bug 286280 - provide mechanism for resizing <select> lists
  • Bug 386574 - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
  • Bug 381295 - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

Queries

Camino 2.0b4

• Blocking ? (6) [-2 since last week]
• Blocking + (3) [+1 since last week] (but this is misleading since enabling safebrowsing is blocked on finishing it, and since doing *something* with the each of the l10n bugs below also blocks b4)
• Blocking - (1) [+1 since last week]

• l10n (9) [unchanged]

Camino 2.0

• Bugs targeted at 2.0 (18) [-1 since last week]
• Blocking ? (13) [unchanged] (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation)
• Blocking + (4) [unchanged]
• Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
• Bugs without target (685) [unchanged] need another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCO

• Bugs fixed since last meeting (8) [-3 since last week] (3 were 2.0-targeted; 5 were ad-blocking)

Queues

• Review (7) [+1 since last week]
• Superreview (2) [unchanged]