Status Meetings:2009-09-02:Agenda

Wed 02 September 9am PDT (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

• Camino 2.0b3
  • Released thirteen weeks ago Thursday
  • Breakpad pseudo-topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 366 (+100 from last meetings's number)
    • #1 is 10.6/JEP ___TERMINATING_DUE_TO_UNCAUGHT_EXCEPTION___ and CoreFoundation@0x11cb07 (16%)
    • #2 is various other Flash-related crashes (14%; large decline)
    • #3 is objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d (unknown bug) (14%, down from 27%)
    • #3 is _objc_error/_objc_trap/libobjc.A.dylib@0xeca0/libobjc.A.dylib@0xeef4 (6%)
    • #4 is nsObjCExceptionLogAbort%20%7c%20nsAppShell::ProcessGeckoEvents(void*) (4%)
    • #5 is nsObjCExceptionLogAbort%20%7c%20nsAppShell::ProcessNextNativeEvent(int) (3%)
    • #6 is MacOSFontEntry::GetFontID() - 10.6; filed Bug 514114 (3%)
    • BWC: bp-141c3d2d-d101-4f36-9abc-f94f92090901
    • Lots of misc signatures; much more widely varied this week
• Camino 2.0b4
  • Can we freeze by next meeting?
    • Zoom
    • Sparkle
    • Breakpad URLs not a blocker, but good to have in final beta?
    • l10n-related changes, including removing unused Gecko strings
• Camino 1.6.9
  • Released last week
  • Talkback is not-as-broken; (all 1.6.9 crashes) — 134 so far, [well below than average])
    • #1 Flash is 18% of all 1.6.9 crashes so far (down from 1.6.8's 33% peak)
    • #2 libobjc
    • #3 libSystem.B
    • #4 CoreFoundation
    • #4 Cocoa
    • #4 nsString::RFindChar (at startup)
• Camino 1.6.10
  • Going to disable Java on 10.6 - Bug 513804
• Summer of Code 2009
  • Program ended three weeks ago Friday
  • Would like a post-mortem?
  • Dan's still writing patches
• Camino 2.0
  • Anti-phishing - follow-ups decreasing (3)
    • Disclaimer status? - Bug 451875 (blocks b4 if need more UI/in-app)
    • Murph has one menu validation bug blocking b4
  • Keyboard loop - spawned about half-dozen new bugs; possibly a new crasher - Bug 470159
  • Cocoa Widgets key blackhole -
  • Tabsposé -
  • breakpad - Bug 489123 for follow-ups
  • Sparkle - session-saving
  • Fonts tab - Bug 422576 - a few things to fix code-wise; take in b4?
  • UTF-8 - Regression fix awaiting sr, rest moved to 2.1
  • Zoom - just increment Bug 493500; murph was looking into it
  • Downloading -
  • Gecko strings l10n - Still need to test last few .properties.strings and then clean up; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings
  • 10.5 UI
    • Bookmark/tab bar
      • need to watch for 10.4 feedback
    • Icon work for 2.0 - Sam promised updates months ago on Downloads window; probably not making 2.0
  • CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews
• Tinderboxen
  • cb-xserve01 down Bug 513718
    • cb-minibinus01 doing 2.0 nightlies alternating with 2.1 perf
  • boxset
    • offline (again) due to power outage at Sam's
    • missing from tinderbox yet again Bug 479999
    • currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
  • cb-minibinus01 switched over to boxset-like config to be a temporary replacement; running Ts and Tdhtml
    • would like to get Tp working before switching back to normal config (need more static/PPC coverage)
  • What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
  • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
• Weekly Bugs and Queues update
  • Queues are at a good level, though a lot pointed at smorgan right now; lower bug movement over the past few weeks (due in part to tinderbox carnage)

Specific bugs that need action

• See “Camino 2.0” section above

Other (if there's time)

• 10.5 Visual UX
  • Toolbar icons - Bug 384725
    • need updates from Sam
  • App icon lines - Bug 402967
• UNCOs
  • Bug 467851 - Floating Tab Previews
  • Bug 468262 - Use grabbed hand cursor during tab dragging
  • Bug 458427 - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
  • Bug 404515 - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page
  • Bug 391684 - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user
  • Bug 386574 - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems
  • Bug 286280 - provide mechanism for resizing <select> lists
  • Bug 386574 - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
  • Bug 381295 - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

Queries

Camino 2.0b4

• Blocking ? (7) [+2 since last week]
• Blocking + (3) [+2 since last week] (but this is misleading since doing *something* with the each of the l10n bugs [aka blocking?] below also blocks b4)
• Blocking - (5) [+3 since last week]

• l10n (5) [-2 since last week]

Camino 2.0

• Bugs targeted at 2.0 (16) [+1 since last week]
• Blocking ? (13) [-1 since last week] (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation)
• Blocking + (3) [-1 since last week]
• Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
• Bugs without target (689) [unchanged] need another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCO

• Bugs fixed since last meeting (9) [+4 since last week] (4 were 2.0-targeted; 2 were ad-blocking, 2 were website)

Queues

• Review (6) [-1 since last week]
• Superreview (1) [unchanged]