Status Meetings:2010-06-16:Log
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Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-06-16 15:22:56 -0400
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16:00 | ardissone: | brb |
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16:04 | ardissone: | well |
16:04 | ardissone: | i guess hendy can catch up when he wakes up :) |
16:04 | ardissone: | http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-06-16:Agenda |
16:05 | ardissone: | 2.0.3 is 3 weeks old today |
16:05 | ardissone: | Something's still wrong with Socorro |
16:05 | ardissone: | no one really knows |
16:06 | ardissone: | the old null-sig issue was a known bug, when one processor died and corrupted every crash sent to it to process |
16:06 | ardissone: | but we're now getting null sig crashes for crashes whose reports do not exist :P |
16:07 | ardissone: | they're looking into it, but i expect until they figure out the massive spike in firefox crashes from the beginning of the month, we won't see much |
16:07 | » David joined the chat room. | |
16:08 | ardissone: | otherwise, crashes look pretty much as expected |
16:09 | ardissone: | We had 11 of 15 l10ns participate in upstreaming breakpad l10ns |
16:09 | ardissone: | I opened http://code.google.com/p/google-breakpad/issues/detail?id=388 to get breakpad to take them ;) |
16:10 | ardissone: | anyone with anything else on 2.0.3? |
16:11 | ardissone: | ok |
16:11 | ardissone: | 1.6.11 |
16:11 | ardissone: | Talkback was killed last night |
16:12 | ardissone: | anyone crashing will get whatever Talkback does for "server not found" errors |
16:13 | ardissone: | (I can't get that one bug to crash 1.6 anymore, so I can't test) |
16:13 | ardissone: | I poked ss once or twice this week about getting stats from post-2.0.3 |
16:14 | ardissone: | so we can see if there was any decline in 1.6.x users on 10.4+ |
16:14 | ardissone: | anyone have anything else on 1.6.11? :P |
16:15 | ardissone: | 2.0.4 |
16:15 | ardissone: | nothing new there, at least not without hendy |
16:16 | ardissone: | 2.1 |
16:16 | ardissone: | I emailed Dan on Monday since it had been a month |
16:16 | ardissone: | I haven't gotten any reply :( |
16:17 | ardissone: | which puts a damper on Alpha 1 |
16:18 | ardissone: | the other half of Alpha 1 is Gecko focus, bug 563321 is the main one of many |
16:19 | ardissone: | I did get the about:config integer fix landed on the trunk last night |
16:20 | ardissone: | so it will be fixed elsewhere |
16:20 | ardissone: | for branch, though, i think the simplest fix is a local fork |
16:21 | ardissone: | of the js |
16:21 | ardissone: | so i'll get that patch ready |
16:21 | ardissone: | anything else on 2.1? |
16:23 | ardissone: | Since the last meeting, nothing really new on the 1.9.3 front |
16:24 | ardissone: | I hacked up a hack to allow us to keep building, but it's not a long-term solution and there are more breaking changes coming |
16:25 | ardissone: | also, sounds like josh is dropping PPC support for Firefox before 1.9.3 ships |
16:25 | ardissone: | which I assume means Gecko is dropping PPC support |
16:25 | smorgan: | That may not actually mean anything other than them not building it |
16:26 | ardissone: | yeah, it's unclear |
16:26 | ardissone: | for sure |
16:26 | smorgan: | I'd be surprised if there's a lot of arch-specific code they are dealing with |
16:26 | ardissone: | cairo updates, video updates |
16:26 | smorgan: | ah |
16:27 | ardissone: | ogg failed horribly on PPC at one point |
16:27 | ardissone: | anyway |
16:28 | ardissone: | smorgan: have you heard from josh about key events patch on the trunk? |
16:28 | smorgan: | no |
16:28 | ardissone: | ok |
16:28 | ardissone: | do we have any thoughts on what to do about the trunk? |
16:31 | smorgan: | Wait for him to decide? |
16:31 | ardissone: | ? |
16:31 | smorgan: | It's Josh's call what happens with key handling on trunk |
16:32 | ardissone: | oh |
16:32 | ardissone: | no, i meant about "the general state of camino on the trunk" |
16:32 | smorgan: | Ah |
16:32 | ardissone: | sorry |
16:33 | smorgan: | Maybe we should just ignore it until we ship something from 1.9.2 |
16:33 | smorgan: | When it was just a simple set of patches to get it building, it wasn't a big deal |
16:34 | smorgan: | But if it's going to be 1.9.0 all over again, that time is best used on getting 2.1 out |
16:34 | ardissone: | that's the way i've been leaning, too |
16:35 | ardissone: | it'll suck as they break interfaces, but let's face it, it sucks to be embedding right now anyway |
16:36 | ardissone: | any objections to that? |
16:36 | smorgan: | And since apparently 1.9.3 is the new name for 2.0, it doesn't actually matter if we are watching for live breakage |
16:36 | smorgan: | Since avoiding breakage is an anti-goal for them |
16:36 | ardissone: | mhm |
16:37 | smorgan: | The advice people always gave about Gecko 2 was for everyone else to just wait and port to it when it was stable |
16:37 | ardissone: | not sure why they started breaking things right before they branched, though :P |
16:37 | ardissone: | but then again, i don't understand lots of things that go on in Mountain View ;) |
16:38 | ardissone: | ok |
16:39 | ardissone: | pinkerton: the sr queue is half deprecation patches targeted at you ;) |
16:39 | pinkerton: | k |
16:39 | ardissone: | 1/4 smorgan trying to fix bad sparkle stats |
16:39 | ardissone: | and 1/4 me making more work for everyone :P |
16:41 | ardissone: | smorgan: can you poke https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563321 since you're likely to have some idea where our code that focuses content is and maybe what it does? |
16:41 | smorgan: | Yeah, I'll try to take a look |
16:41 | ardissone: | thanks :) |
16:42 | ardissone: | have you had a chance to look at my comments in the search paths bug? bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570373 |
16:44 | ardissone: | that's all i had today; anyone else have anything? |
16:46 | ardissone: | ok then |
16:47 | ardissone: | everyone please work on 2.1 stuff, and have a good week :) |