Status Meetings:2008-01-09:Agenda

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Wed 09 Jan 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

  • Camino 1.6a1
    • Talkback (all 1.6a1 crashes)
    • Are we getting enough user coverage? Talkback suggests no using the nsCOMPtr_base crashes for a comparison (only 85 crashes total in ca. 1 month)
  • Camino 1.6b1
    • Plan to ship b1 bet. 15th and 17th; freeze when? (relnotes just before freeze, QA during freeze to try to avoid crashers)
    • Feature/l10n freeze is b2
    • What P1/P2 features won't make it?
    • What 10.5 UI integration fixes do we want?
      • Need call for designers to get mockups for 10.5 tab/bookmark bar refresh
    • please help out with any nib/strings bugs
  • Camino 1.6
    • Scoping
      • Most of Tab Scrolling is done, as is AppleScript (P3)
        2-3 AS follow-ups we really want (peeja)
      • swupdate: only minor stuff left
        Ts regression Bug 405542), appcast script (Bug 401474), testing via b1
      • jeff has been poking the tab dragging code
        new WIP on Bug 160720 with hwaara's comments addressed.
      • batwood has patches for both of his 1.6 bugs
        multiple accounts up for sr=mento
      • murph should have a solution to fully establish a working key-view loop throughout the browser window after search stuff
        search editor and OpenSearch have checkin-ready patches
      • ardissone has been fighting Makefiles for AppleScript feed handlers
        needs review=peeja and review/mentoring=mento
      • breakpad: mento was going to talk to ted about server-side stuff (and write our handlers); smorgan was going to write the reporter
  • Camino 1.5.4
    • Next Gecko release scheduled for 5 Feb. We need to push some crash fixes with it (close tabs, quit; Trash button crashes)
    • Talkback for 1.5.4
      • topcrasher (#1, #2, and #4) already fixed; it's on quit, but it's pretty heavy
        • The change that caused it landed on the MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH one month before we spun 1.5.4 RC build. Are we not getting enough testing of the branch?
      • Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core Bug 349463) is #3 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
      • Flash is #5, #6 (the latter ultimately in Cocoa)
    • Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
  • Tinderboxen
    • no new news on binus or maya
    • ss has replacement minis for binus (to run 10.3) and mayaTrunk; mini-binus is in the colo but not accessible(?); mini-mayaTrunk will go to the colo after Christmas(?)
    • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
    • we should think about setting up a testerbox to catch Core bugs breaking embedding APIs (mini-mayaTrunk alternate builds?)
  • Weekly Bugs and Queues update
    • 32 bugs this last week probably a record; heroic effort on the queues, too (only still "high" because we're pushing so many patches in)
    • We have lots of bugs where people have said "I have working/WIP code for foo" and never attach patches and then they or the code disappear; we need to get better at attaching WIPs (there are actually several bugs with old Chimera patches we've been able to resurrect because there were patches)

Specific bugs that need action


  • Bug 408593 - Only check for the default browser once
    • Re-discuss, with mento's objections?
  • Bug 394651 - Set "Accept cookies only from sites I visit" as default (dwitte fixed the Core problem; this can land whenever.)
    • any chance of the NSPR fix needed to enable this landing on the branch, or should we just trunk-only it?


  • nothing right now

Other (if there's time)

  • UNCOs
    • Bug 376930 - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen
      • Need to find a way to "promote" this as an area we'd like user feedback on in 1.6a1 (we note this as a feature on the preview site)
  • Trunk
    • mainly the background drawing/tab-bleeding-on-10.4 bug (Bug 406784) remains (waiting on landing)
    • Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they're Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.
    • xpfe cleanup
      • see older Agendas if you're interested


Camino 1.6b1

Camino 1.6b2

Camino 1.6