Status Meetings:2010-11-17:Log

Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-11-17 15:48:26 -0500

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16:03	ardissone:	doesn't look like anyone else is around today
16:03	ardissone:	sam is enroute to Germany
16:03	ardissone:	http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-11-17:Agenda
16:03	pinkerton:	waves at smorgan
16:04	ardissone:	stating the obvious: no meeting next week
16:04	pinkerton:	:)
16:04	ardissone:	i'll be offline the entire week
16:04	pinkerton:	i think i've seen 5 airport gowalla checkins per day from sam in the last week
16:04	pinkerton:	i'm not sure if he actually spends any time at his destination, or just immediately gets on another plane
16:04	ardissone:	yeah, he seems to be travelling around the country like mad
16:05	pinkerton:	any idea what he's doing?
16:05	ardissone:	he's been doing server stuff during layovers :P
16:05	pinkerton:	ok
16:05	ardissone:	but other than that and racking up frequent flyer points, I know no method to the current madness ;)
16:06	ardissone:	Maybe he's working for Langley :P
16:06	ardissone:	"The Secret Life of Samuel Sidler"
16:06	ardissone:	anyway…
16:06	ardissone:	2.0.6 yesterday
16:07	ardissone:	aside from the usual crazies, I haven't seen anything bad reported
16:07	ardissone:	which is good, because the scope of changes was somewhat limited to begin with ;)
16:08	ardissone:	stuart reported that yesterday's self-selecting 2.0.6 users were 81% on latest Flash
16:08	ardissone:	2.0.x in general has broken 50%
16:09	pinkerton:	we've started getting a few more "you guys are awesome" emails than usual
16:09	ardissone:	so flash-check plus OS updates is working
16:09	ardissone:	:D
16:09	ardissone:	usage seems to be on a slow rise back from summer lows
16:10	ardissone:	in terms of crashes, there were only 21 last night
16:11	ardissone:	looks like we're up to 119 now
16:11	ardissone:	Flash 10.1, KBL took top honors
16:11	ardissone:	then the 1passwd crash
16:12	ardissone:	those users (user?) are definitely using a newer 1p version (only the Scripting Addition, not the old 1PasswdIM, is loaded)
16:13	ardissone:	I don't know if it's worth the work to detect that and warn or not
16:15	ardissone:	i also looked back at 2.0.5, and crashes dropped 50% in the last week; not sure what happened there
16:16	ardissone:	smorgan: we do have an email now for a lastpass + tabView crash user
16:16	smorgan:	Cool, can you send it to me?
16:17	ardissone:	will do
16:17	ardissone:	anything else on 2.0.6?
16:19	smorgan:	nope
16:19	ardissone:	we have a couple of bugs on the plate for 2.0.7
16:20	ardissone:	KBL if we get a1 out first
16:20	ardissone:	Flashblock upgrade
16:20	ardissone:	steven's fix for the JEP regression (broken game sites)
16:21	ardissone:	anything else on that?
16:21	smorgan:	nope
16:22	ardissone:	on 2.1
16:22	ardissone:	smorgan: how are we in general on autocomplete/location bar typing?
16:23	smorgan:	I need pink to review my history refactor
16:23	smorgan:	Then I'll update based on that, and expect we can go forward with that patch
16:23	pinkerton:	hrm, i didn't see anything in my rss feed
16:23	smorgan:	Leaving a bunch of follow-ups
16:24	ardissone:	but wip8 is more-or-less where we will be for a1?
16:24	pinkerton:	is it not updating again?
16:24	smorgan:	pinkerton: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=610658
16:24	smorgan:	ardissone: I believe so, yes
16:24	ardissone:	ok
16:24	pinkerton:	92k!?
16:24	ardissone:	haha
16:24	pinkerton:	f- me
16:24	smorgan:	pinkerton: I'll make a note to check your feed
16:24	smorgan:	pinkerton: read the bug
16:24	smorgan:	I gave you six smaller patches
16:24	pinkerton:	i'll do it later, i'm in the middle of 3 different things now
16:25	smorgan:	With clear (hopefully) changes
16:25	pinkerton:	heh
16:25	pinkerton:	ok thanks
16:25	smorgan:	The 92k is a composite patch I don't expect you to actually review
16:25	pinkerton:	k
16:26	ardissone:	i don't know if you can get the right stuff out of your git tree and into hg or not
16:26	smorgan:	?
16:26	ardissone:	but it might really make sense sanity-/blame-wise
16:26	ardissone:	to land the pieces
16:26	ardissone:	rather than a smfr-esque "rewrite history" patch
16:26	smorgan:	Oh. I'm not super-excited about the idea of landing the pieces
16:27	smorgan:	As I mentioned in the bug, there are temporary hacks and outright bugs in intermediate states
16:27	ardissone:	ok
16:27	smorgan:	It's not smfr-esque in that it really does one thing: splits one class into two
16:28	smorgan:	It doesn't also change 3 other mostly unrelated behaviors in different code ;)
16:28	ardissone:	haha
16:28	ardissone:	i guess also if we ever need more granularity, the patches will be in the bug
16:28	smorgan:	Right
16:28	ardissone:	ok
16:29	ardissone:	so after autocomplete/typing we have a couple of focus bugs we're planning on blocking a1 on
16:29	ardissone:	we discussed that last meeting, and twiddled the flags
16:30	smorgan:	Hopefully I can look at focus this weekend; we'll see
16:30	ardissone:	speaking of focus, did you see my comment in the last Flash window dealloc crash bug?
16:31	ardissone:	about the 2.0.x Flash 10.2 crashes
16:31	ardissone:	https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577567#c11
16:32	ardissone:	(there are also lots of users running 2.0.2 (from Feb!) and Flash 10.1 and hitting that bug and complaining :P not my fault they haven't upgraded Camino in 9 mos :/ )
16:33	smorgan:	I saw that they were there; not much we can do without steps I think
16:33	ardissone:	yeah
16:33	ardissone:	bizarre that it's back, but hopefully it'll be really low volume or we'll get reliable STR
16:34	ardissone:	or just ship 2.1 ;)
16:34	ardissone:	to use smorgan's favorite phrase
16:34	ardissone:	anything else on 2.1/a1 ?
16:35	smorgan:	Still hoping we can have all the blockers done by the end of the month :)
16:36	ardissone:	:)
16:36	ardissone:	in terms of the queues, things are better this week
16:36	ardissone:	ilya cleared his, in spite of xcode/xcodebuuild still hanging when building
16:37	ardissone:	(and we really ran out of ideas; it kept hanging the OS in a slightly later place in the build each time)
16:38	ardissone:	the r queue is now mostly hendy and smorgan, and smorgan's commented in most of his that have been waiting a while
16:38	ardissone:	i'll try to touch base with hendy again before i go offline
16:38	smorgan:	This weekend and/or tuesday I should be able to clear my queue
16:39	ardissone:	:)
16:39	ardissone:	we're in pretty good shape with the server migration
16:40	ardissone:	sam's waiting to hear back from the host about SSL and some stuff with logging
16:41	ardissone:	i don't know if we'll be able to find time when we're both online to move end-of-week, or if Sam will have to do it himself next week
16:43	ardissone:	i think that's all I have this week
16:44	ardissone:	anyone have anything else?
16:45	ardissone:	ok then
16:46	ardissone:	everyone please work on 2.1/a1 bugs/reviews and have a good two weeks :)
16:46	ardissone:	don't eat too much turkey, and see you in december :)